Luke used to do some dangerous piloting in canyons, so he was already doing dangerous piloting even though he wasn’t being shot at.
Also, TG:M is the ANH trench run. Not even trying to hide it.
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RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Sadly the movie only really communicates this with a line said almost in passing.
The original Rogue Squadron game has a mission where you fly the canyon path the way Luke did. Get gold on that and you’ll get an idea of just how good of a pilot Luke already is before he ever touches an X-Wing. And on the topic of the X-Wing, it is arguably the most advanced fighter ever made at that time, yet another untold portion of the movie that was intended to already be part of the lore lol.
Luke also used to shoot womprats while racing his T-16 around the canyons, and womprats are smaller than the Death Star’s exhaust port. Combine all that with his latent force power and the trench run is actually not a far fetched feat for him at all.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yeah seriously this is kinda nonsense, it’s more akin to a professional level stunt pilot who is independent. Scouted out and recruited to a company that does air shows.
He’s already highly skilled, practiced and knowledgeable in the field. He at most just needs a few weeks to learn the routine of the new company and he’s good to go.
Even ignoring the space magic. He was already one of the most skilled pilots because he’s been flying for his entire life at extremely high levels.
expr@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Also, you know, he’s the son of the most powerful force wielder in the universe. Tends to help with piloting a bit.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Very true.
chunes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I always thought ANH doesn’t do they best job of conveying the passage of time so it seems like Luke just integrates with this rebel squadron randomly in like an hour.
daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How long is it supposed to be?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
two hours
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I think it depends on the old EU versus modern Disney but I think in the old EU he was there for like a week or two.
Hupf@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is true, but everything is copied from everything else. Star Wars was written to the template of the Hero’s Story myth as outlined by Joseph Campbell, and the plot and several characters are taken from Kurosawa’s The Hidden Fortress. This is not conjecture, Lucas has openly said this.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Samurai movies and Spaghetti Westerners have been feeding on each other for decades. Star Wars was an apotheosis of sorts, marrying them both in a space opera.
spacemint_rhino@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Potter is more of a rip off of Lord of the Rings imo.
Orphan who has to stop a once defeated but now returning dark lord, vie destroying object(s) that contain his soul, with the help of a wizard and companions, all while evading the evil followers of the dark lord. Receives powerful artefacts that help him (cloak of invisibility vs sting/mithril coat). Assisted by a father/teacher figure that at first appears to be evil but turns out to be a good and beloved friend (Aragorn/Sirius Black).
Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
And remember Troll 1 where a dorky, bespectacled, young boy, with messy brown hair, is thrown into a parallel world of magic, who happens to be named Harry Potter
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Potter is more of a rip off of Lord of the Rings imo.
I’ve always had it pegged as a rip off of James and the Giant Peach, tbh. At the very least, there’s a ton Rowling drew from Roald Dahl (including the raging bigotry).
I’ve also heard her accused of ripping off Earthsea.
Orphan who has to stop a once defeated but now returning dark lord, via destroying object(s) that contain his soul, with the help of a wizard and companions, all while evading the evil followers of the dark lord.
This is 90% of D&D games, though. Voldemort is a classic Lich with a twist. She could have written a first draft of this book in high school using the 2e TSR book.
It’s so easy to claim she’s plagiarized the material because the whole book is so comically generic.
TheDoozer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
They were last generation to inherit wealth, so they are the target audience
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Boomers all think they’re the main character
shalafi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Everybody thinks GenX are Boomers.
camelbeard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Everyone is falling for the “lets turn different age groups against each other instead of fixing actual problems” thing
SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s because they’ve been right about that their entire lives.
They’re called Boomers beause they’re the largest generation. Being the largest generation means that you’re the generation with the most purchasing power, the most cultural cache, and the most voting power. Corporations, the media, and political parties have spent the past 50-60 years making the Boomers the foundation of their strategy.
The whole of mainstream society has been telling the Boomers for their entire lives that they’re the most important people in society.nIt’s only now that they’re dying off in a significant way that this strategy is starting to fail.
PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
s/1970/1977
s/2025/2022Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Spotted the vim user! (sed doesn’t like missing slashes)
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wait, did tom cruise drop the bomb in the new movie? I thought he was just the teacher on the ground?
WanderWisley@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nope he literally teaches the young pilots how to do the mission perfectly then at the end he goes “fuck it” I’ll do it myself and almost get myself killed for no reason.
tomenzgg@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
I assume you meant “himself” but I am amused by the idea that Tom Cruise’s character nearly kills a single member of the viewing audience, in real life, as part of the movie’s climax for unexplained reasons.
Mikrochip@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
It was already cheesy at that point, but the part where they were down on the ground & just happened to stumble upon an F-14, took that into the air & used it to defeat much newer airframes really took me out of the immersion.
Honestly, if they’d found a ww1 byplane and the copilot had used a bucket to scoop air from the inside after they got hit, I wouldn’t have found it much more cheesy.
etherphon@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Lucas was 27 when he started writing Star Wars…
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
What about his audience, though?
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Star Wars was for the whole family, bro beans.
Hikermick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Everyone can relate to an underdog
eskimofry@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
problem is, you need the underdog to actually fail at least once
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m the sequel, I don’t think at any point he was the underdog.
Is he was a woman, people would say he was a mary sue
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And then you need a montage
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is Tom Cruise an underdog at this point?
Hikermick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I was thinking more of the character not the actor
sunbytes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So many things out right now where the protagonist’s superpower is being old and tough/wise. And all the opponents are “young upstarts/punks”
“The old man” probably a but on the nose.
Tulsa King, Yellowstone etc
Gowron_Howard@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Top gun is a horrible movie
HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 week ago
Both Top Gun and Star Wars battles have more to do with WWII air battles than modern air or plausible sci-fi space battles.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Anon can’t tell time.
MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Independence Day did it better, than Tom Cruise at least.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
the first one or the 2nd one, the 2nd one was terrible.
MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
The 1st. “Up yours!!”
RedSnt@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
That’s how I feel about Nobody, the action movie with Bob Odenkirk. A 59 year old beating up a bus of young punks, such a power fantasy, but it’s just so hard to believe.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Yeah but it’s fun anyway, because Bob Odenkirk is awesome.
Skanky@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This, plus the brutality of the fight scenes were incredible
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
He also got his ass handed to him in that scene…
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Skill + strength. It’s not always about how hard you hit someone but where and how.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
As the old boxers say, timing beats speed. Precision beats power.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So is pretty much every movie, mate. The point is to make it believable as you possibly can, without tipping over into farce. You can believe that an experienced fighter can beat an inexperienced one. Thats not an issue. The issue, for me anyway, usually comes when they take a hit. Thats usually when I start blowing big watery farts at the screen. See also small women beating up massive built dudes. Like The Woman King, seeing 50something Viola Davis taking haymakers from 25 year old heavy weight like they are nothing. Each punch enough to knock just about anyone on the planet out cold.
John Wick is another one. The gun play and stuff is fun, but as a tactical exercise, John Wick regularly gives up good cover for more sensational action shots that should have gotten him killed a million times over. The trick is making it fun. If you can do that, the audience forgives any bullshit. If you cant make it fun, the audience will nitpick it to fuck.
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah I feel like movies in general wayyyyy downplay how bad taking a full force bare-knuckle punch right to the chin is. Irl you’re very likely getting knocked out and also whoever threw the punch has a good chance of breaking their hand.
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I like the one in Secondhand Lions. Similar theme. Perhaps more believable.
RedSnt@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
Ohh, young Haley Joel Osment and Robert Duvall. I don’t know how I missed this movie! As in, I didn’t see it when it came out. Might be worth a watch later today.