“We need to be very clear, you are not going to get gun deaths to zero,” he said. “It will not happen. You can significantly reduce them, by having more fathers in the home, by having more armed guards in front of schools. We should have a honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.”
DEI, more like DIED
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resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Rothe@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
Ah yes, "the utopian one" like it is in the rest of the Western world.
shneancy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
i was flabbergasted when i first heard americans have security & armed guards at schools. the closest to that any of the schools i went to had was cameras watching the doors and overweight PE teachers
Cruel@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Plenty of Western countries with lots of guns that don’t have the same issues with gun violence.
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
How many fathers was he suggesting each home should have?
Zink@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
For some it takes a village.
For some like Charlie it takes an orgy. Of exclusively middle aged dad bods.
Zink@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
A conservative saying something that sounds reasonable in order to convince the listener that the opposite is true.
Conservative messaging 101 right there.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
jj4211@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yeah, without knowing context, you might think it’s someone admitting that we need gun control, but no, his point was that we shouldn’t care about the gun deaths so much…
Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I guess the guy who shot his throat won the debate about Charlies shooters being from fatherless homes theory
Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I’m Canadian. I didn’t follow this asshole before someone splattered him but what the fuck is up with his face? Is this the face of the white right? It looks like someone pinched all his features to the nose and pinned them there. Weirdness.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
105% looks like the “normal” sweet spot.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Wierd how it defaults to a blow up version of his face, I guess starting the slider at the correct 10% people would have a hard time finding his little face
Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Fantastic!
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They’re calling him their “MLK”, which is equal parts hilarious and fucking pathetic.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
He was just a low level tool. He had a complete lack of empathy making him ideal to spout hate.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Lot of cousin banging in his lineage for sure
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
He has distinct chromosomal features.
Rooty@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Watching all the fascists weep for this idiot and ask for decorum has been the highlight of my week.
It’s not fun when you’re on the recieving end of political violence, is it not?
SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I posted his quote without comments verbatim and was banned from a forum by people asking for decorum.
It was all 100% his stuff.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yeah, it’s like they genuinely forgot that this person has been advocating to deport migrants to concentration camps. And shooting Pelosi’s husband. And a literal genocide.
The amount of hypocrisy of the right suddenly denouncing political violence now that they are on the receiving and is stunning.
CitizenKong@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Being able to change from attacker to victim in a heartbeat is a core principle of facsism.
Iwaku@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
For the sake of fuck I do not support that man either… but why tf are people genuinely celebrating the murder of a father who never physically injured anyone???
athatet@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
A father who said that if his daughters got raped he would make them care for the rapists baby… Physical injury is not the only kind.
SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m not condonig anything. In fact this killing is brutal and violent as it gets. But this violence didn’t come out of thin air, he’s been fomenting violence with words and propagands for years. And this has a weight.
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
I cannot stop laughing at this
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Did he died?
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
He did. It was in the top 3 most gruesome things I’ve ever seen in my life. However, I only feel sorry for two people that saw it, and those are his kids. They didn’t choose to associate with one of the lowest subhuman pieces of shit we have to offer, but the right sure did. His wife did, our pres did, a lot of our families did.
The world is a better place now that that fucker can no longer speak. All of his words caused pain, hate and suffering. Fuck him, amen.
simplejack@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
He did a died
henfredemars@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Yep.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day 5 weeks ago
Haven’t you watched Shrek? He was killed by the very magical creatures he was trying to oppress.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Good ol’ Carotid Artery Charlie
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
You know? In Spanish, there’s an idiom: “irse a hacer gargaras” (literally “go to gargle”) that we say when something or someone ends poorly or incredibly wrong. This… well, he did go.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I really hate to dance on someone’s grave but some people make it so easy to laugh and cheer about their assassination and the following memes…
Sorry kirkie, you deserved this one and all the ridicule that followed. You sold your soul for money and power, of course most people hate you.
This meme shows perfectly why people laugh at your death.
I lolled hard at this meme
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
people are hunting and doxing people who post things like the above posted meme…
Stamau123@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They can dox Deez nuts
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Go ahead and do a whole Riverdance on that thing.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
He lived as a meme and died as a meme o7
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
nebar forgor 💀 🩸
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
When God gives you a message about the “god given right to carry arms”.
unknown@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
I think just I woke up my next door neighbour with how loudly I just laughed.
Cruel@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
At least make a funny joke if you’re going to mock murder victims. “LOL HE GARGLED AND CHOKED ON HIS BLOOD” is not an attempt at dark humor, it’s just enjoying death and violence.
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 5 weeks ago
He said that little kids being killed in school shootings is worth it and ridiculed disabled people in his circles (source)
rumba@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
He had a following cheering him on, too.
There’s a family of kids who’ve died to school shooters. In a lot of cases, they’re very upset and have very little to live for.
He was perpetuating it. I’m honestly shocked it took this long.
Cruel@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
he was a blatant racist
I’m not seeing it. Most those quotes were about affirmative action logically causing him to question the qualifications of blacks (because their race got them there via affirmative action). The rest are simply not racist or just bashing specific black individuals.
I’ll say this is the only one even worth discussing, as it requires a lot of nuance. The other points below aren’t good.
little kids being killed in school shootings is “worth it”
If he could, I’m sure he would say his own death was “worth it” in the context of being able to live in a country with gun rights. There are like ~1200 children killed by cars every year. Would you say that’s not worth having cars? Would you outlaw them?
ridiculed disabled people in his circles
Making a joke about blind people is insensitive, but not even half the insensitivity of the meme in this post. I won’t defend him necessarily except to say this is a pretty mild offense, especially for someone everyone is calling a fascist who deserved public execution. I’d expect something a big more dire.
said that children should witness public executions
Do you know why? And do you have a reason for being so strongly against that? I don’t have a reason. I don’t know any studies on how this affects kids, but it could very well be a good idea.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
The joke is that he was willing to let some people die at the altar of the Second Amendment (not him, of course), then he become one of those “some people.”
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
if you don’t see the irony in the circumstances of his death, you may be stupid
Cruel@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
It only qualifies as ironic if Kirk would not support being a part of the “price worth paying” for gun rights. Do you actually believe he would’ve only accepted the deaths of others and not of himself?
Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Stamau123@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
i’d send this to my grandpa who keeps asking the family to stop celebrating, but he’d just get more pissed
Cruel@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Rittenhouse defended himself against criminals trying to kill him, shooting one of them in the arm just as he was lowering a pistol to point it at him.
Nobody would be “celebrating” him if people didn’t try to vilify him and lock him in prison for the rest of his life.
LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Calm down Cruel, you just didn’t get the joke
barelythere@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Questioner: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”
Charlie: “Counting or not counting gang violence”
Charlie then gets shot in the neck.
His literal last moment is him deflecting the question to a right wing dog whistle
Cruel@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
How is that a deflection? Excluding gang violence from mass shootings would change the number dramatically. So how could he give an accurate answer without knowing?
The definition of “mass shooting” varies and can potentially exclude gang violence. Excluding gang violence is often useful since most people don’t care about criminals killing each other (most of gang shootings), and prefer to talking about innocent people who are shot.
rumba@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
We’d mostly have a different views if he weren’t openly advocating for school shootings. He was literally framing them as a good thing. He was shock and awe, and drawing followers. It’s not all jokes, people are happy he’s dead and rightfully so imo.
Cruel@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
When did he frame school shootings as good? Are you referring to when he said they were acceptable deaths if they were required to keep the 2nd amendment? Because that doesn’t make them a good thing, it makes them tolerable.
Kinda like how we tolerate ~350 toddlers dying in swimming pools every year and nobody demands that we ban swimming pools.
TheBloodFarts@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Meh I’m enjoying it
Railcar8095@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You missed attribution to me. But I’ll allow given the joke was so easy and tempting to make.
Nurgus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Won’t someone think of the feelings of the poor woke snowflake rightwingers.
Wilco@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Dammit, funny as hell. So morbid.
hnnhmn7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
live by the gun, die by the gun
Hello_there@fedia.io 5 weeks ago
Spicy. This reminds me of reddit before it got corporatized
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Welcome! I use arch btw.
Valmond@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Stop opressing mint users!
/js
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
If I hadn’t been banned from Reddit for “showing extreme indifference” about Kissinger taking a dirt nap, there is NO way I would have made it through this week.
SippyCup@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
The only problem with Kissinger being dead is that if hell is real, Satan suddenly has a powerful ally.
chunes@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Luigi definitely would’ve got you first.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
I saw this on Reddit some hours before being posted here
Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m sure it’s been taken down. Reddit is full facist