Submitted 3 weeks ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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This guy bought so many rare monkey tokens. Ai is impressive in some aspects, but it’s not nearly as impressive as the marketing that drives the massive amounts of investment into it.
The US economy is doing anything it can to create growth, which is causing investors to create a bubble around AI that is “too big to fail”.
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell.” - Edward Abbey.
you seem to underestimate just how fast ai is growing.
It’s growing fast, yes, but it’s nowhere near actually intelligent or hyperrealistic to the point it’s fooling anyone familiar with the tech.
Yeah. I ran into some ai generated porn a while ago without realizing it immediately and initially it was certainly very hot. Once i realized what it was my interest died completely and I realized the flaw with ai gen porn is the complete lack of narrative continuity, especially in the meta sense. You will only ever get the first thing you see and maybe some similar looking derivatives. You’ll never get it to make a true story exploring ideas and boundaries, or even just being able to make the same character consistently, let alone in different circumstances or within a larger meta context. It’s the most soulless art possible. It says nothing and it means nothing, and people are going to realize they care about those things when the novelty wears off.
I wonder if personal websites with links to each other, like in the olden days, will start growing in popularity again because of how trust is slowly eroded for anything not in your direct control 🤔
But, but, how will we monetize it? How!?
/s
I long for the early 2k internet. So much potential positivity for humanity.
With infinite popups.
Same here! This will be the way for me.
Gotta spin me up a Neocities page…
I think this vastly overestimates the average person’s ability to recognise it even care to recognise what is a bit and what is not.
You’ve got all those videos on Facebook which are BLATANTLY AI and the comment section is split between “wow, amazing!” and “it’s AI you fucking morons”
The latter will eventually leave the platform and the former will be all that’s left.
And it is not going to take 10 years. It is right around the corner.
For us older ones, 10 years seems to be right around the corner too :-/
Then new people will grow up in an environment where its only the wow amazing people and they never hear from the its ai you moron people.
We’re a dying breed. There are people alive today who will never know anything other than the post truth world.
Interesting times.
Then people jack of to manga (and more) knowing it is not real, and sees through the computer generated images in star treck but still love it. I think you underestimate how malleable the human mind is when we want to!
Hentai has a story though. The characters have experiences and respond to them. There is a continuity to it. It wouldn’t be nearly as popular if it was just random variations on a theme for every image. That’s super fucking boring. It’s not about how real or true the images are, it’s about how good the story is at making us feel horny. AI gen slop can’t even tell a coherent story at all.
You never know how many of those comments now aren’t bits and ai also. The malleable human mind sees “people” expressing opinions and wants to take a side, have an opinion. How convenient that all the options, all the feelings and responses you should have, are already laid out for you. Just “Like and Subscribe” to the persons whose opinions most align to your own.
This has already happened, many years ago. I know this because everyone but me is actually a highly sophisticated robot that resembles a member of my species. I’m onto you.
When I was a kid I had a theory that I’m the only conscient being in the world, and that everyone is some sort of a robot.
I couldn’t share it with anyone, because obviously no one was real but me.
He figured it out. Time to shut it down.
you can’t trick me machine. You can’t convince me I am the robot and you are the conscious. it can’t be possible.
This is the bad place and everyone is a tortue demon. The worst version of The Truman Show.
Reputation and PGP signatures could be used to verify real human made content. That is, of course, if people actually care, which I think will be rare. There might be closed no-ai communities, that require this and are closed down to avoid being scraped for ai training.
Why couldn’t AI use PGP signatures that suggest they’re human?
Its not about “just having a signature”. Its about a web of trust. It only works if you verify if the key belongs to a creator that is actually a person.
Basically creators go to a convention and hand out their public key in person and have other creators sign their key. If you trust creator A is real and they signed the key of creator B, you can have some trust B is also real. And if your buddy went to the convention, met A and B, got their public keys and tells you they are real you can also trust they are real. The more steps/signatures you are away from a creator the less trustworthy they are and nothing really ensures a (human) creator doesn’t use AI secretly. If somebody is found to be a fraud everyone has to distrust their key.
Trust is the most important part. You trust someone they made something themselves. They digitally sign their work with a public key that is known to be theirs. You can now verify they (the person you trust) made it.
Once the trusted creator’s key is leaked, they are no longer trusted for future works.
AI made content can be freely signed as well, but if you don’t trust the origin, the signature doesn’t matter anyway.
The key thing is trust, the signature is just there to verify.
Throw the technical bit away. Just think of it as a signature. Yes, an old school, written-with-hand signature.
Does the bank trust me giving you $100 by you having this cheque? Yes. Why? Because I told them what my name is and what my signature is like.
Will the bank give you $100 if you stole my cheque and sign your name on it?
I like webghost0101’s Idea:
[…] a blockchain linked video camera where metadata of footage gets written into the chain to combat fake news and misinformation.
The goal would be to create a proof and record of original footage, to which media publishers and people who share can link towards to verify authenticity/author.
If the media later gets manipulated or reframed you would be able to verify this by comparing it to the original record.
blockchain is a totally useless extra bit glued on there. All the real evidence will be the cryptographic signatures added by the hardware manufacturer (which can be faked, but requires extracting the keys from the “security chip” in the camera which may be very difficult)
Part of the fun of watching stuff isn’t because it “customised to me” it’s sharing an experience with the creator(s) and friends, family etc.
I see genAI being used as a tool for creators but not as an automation of content creation.
I don’t think everyone is into that link tho (/j)
AI would be chronically incapable of implementing actually surprising plot twists that are both unexpected and consistent with the rest of the plot (and not somehow someone back into existence). If it hadn’t been written before, an AI would never make Darth Vader be Luke’s father unless specifically prompted, at which point, why even.
(I’ve just finished a hexalogy marathon, my head is full of jedi.)
Actually, polls show that most people are not fond of AI-generated content and want it to be labelled or don’t want it at all.
As for generating your own entertainment at home, see interactive movies. They did not take off because people don’t want to be “working” for their entertainment. That’s their time to relax and not make decisions.
All in all, we’re not as careless as it may seem.
A fb group i moderate recently had an AI jammed up it. I ran a poll to keep or disable. “Get rid of it” got more votes than the option “Put a gimp mask on it and whore it out for grapefruit”
Not to mention those interactive movies from the early 90s games that also didn’t take off because they were sorely lacking in the game department
I’d be very interested in these polls if you have some to link!
Video evidence is relatively easy to fix, you just need camera ICs to cryptographically sign their outputs. If the image/video is tampered with (or even re-encoded) the signature won’t match. As the private key is (hopefully!) stored securely in the hardware IC taking the photo/video, any generated images or videos can’t be signed by such a private key.
So whatever way the camera output is being signed, what’s stopping you from signing an altered video with a similar private key and then saying “you can all trust that my video is real because I have the private key for it.”
The doubters will have to concede that the video did indeed come from you because it pairs with your key, but why would anyone trust that the key came from the camera step instead of coming from the editing step?
Mate, digital cinema uses this encryption /decryption method for KDMs.
The keys are tied into multiple physical hardware ids, many of which (such as player/.projector ) are also married cryptographically. Any deviation along a massive chain and you get no content.
Those playback keys are produced from DKDMs that are insanely tightly controlled. The DKDM production itself even more so.
And that’s just to play a movie. This is proven tech, decades old. You’re not gonna break it with premiere.
You can enter the camera as evidence, and prove that it has been used for other footage. Each camera should have a unique key to be effective.
So if you create a new key, it won’t match the one on am existing camera. If you steal the key, then once that’s discovered, the camera should generate a new one.
You, the end user, don’t have access to your camera’s private key. Only the camera IC does. When your phone / SD card first receives the image/video it’s already been signed by the hardware.
Wouldn’t this be as easy to break as to point a camera at a screen playing whatever you want?
Perhaps not with light field cameras. But then you could probably tamper with the hardware somehow.
getting the picture to perfectly replicate the image on the screen without it being noticeable would be so difficult it would probably be easier to modify the camera instead
I personally doubt that will happen, since the current models require a lot of data to get better, something we actually don’t have. The real danger is what happens once we figure out how to make models without an absurd amount of data.
As well as that, the internet is less reliable since there’s a lot more botshit on it.
Making models without a mountain of data is just engineering lol. That’s what we were doing before, are still doing, and will continue doing for the rest of our existence.
Hopefully never
well at the very least those models’ drawings might not be an assult on our collective eyes
I like to think humans will go back to interacting with each other in person thanks to AI destroying the internet
Skynut is coming, in all its smutty glory and we can do nothing about it
Photorealistic porns? What’s your problem, man? You have realistic AI and this is all you’ll have? Just order a silicon doll and put an AI chip into it! Free sex-sla wife!
Marketable idea right here
email. gmail already summarizes every mail by default in the US. most emails are bot spam. ppl start using ai bots to answer emails. is that the internet of things?
Time to get up and go outside :)
That porn had to be trained on real people’s bodies who will never see a penny of it. That’s laundered revenge porn.
Just swap security cameras back over to analog, problem solved for video evidence
Reading this made my eye twitch.
Just the kind of anthropomorphism a bot would use 🤔
I have long-since decided to stop watching new media altogether, opting instead for anime that I downloaded and hoarded before 2030, that I can verify was made before generative AI gained popularity
And I’m open to recommendations
I have a friend that does a rolling schedule on her hoarded old media, which according to her, is sufficient for the rest of her life.
Frankly I could probably make do with what I got. If I redownloaded every anime I ever watched, I’d have a little over 4 years worth of material to watch and rewatch over and over again. But if I never saw anything new, I’d never see anything new, and all my favorite shows were new once
War and Peace 1966. A great adaptation of a great novel.
Read classics:
Pride and Prejudice" by Jane Austen, “Moby Dick” by Herman Melville, “The Great Gatsby” by F. Scott Fitzgerald, and “1984” by George Orwell.
Start here. There are thousands.
Wouldn’t be against that
We should get polaroids and analog film again
Before the invention of video, humanity didn’t have video evidence either and still managed. We are approaching the end of a ~150 year time period in the history of humanity in which video evidence is persuasive.
Simetimes I think the future will resemble the pre-internet era. AI content will be so easy to create that the zone will be flooded with shit, and only a few reputable sources will be trusted, like when there were only a few TV news channels.
TIHI
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The last bullet is true even now. Just go into Threads or Bluesky. So many bots and scammers.
Most readers would gladly read AI slop instead of real literature, and thousands likely already do. Just look at how much brainrot gente fiction is pushed on “booktok” and the now common practice of choosing books by tags only.
Also, for AI porn, it’s already all over /b/
I love my computer, you make me feel alright! every waking hour, and every lonely night! I love my computer, for all you give to me! predictable errors, and no identity! and it’s never been quite so easy, I’ve never been quite so happy!!! all I need to do, is click on you, and we’ll be joined in the most soul-less way! and we’ll never ever ruin each other’s day, cuz when I’m through I just click, and you just go away! I love my computer, you’re always in the mood! I get turned on, when I turn on you! I love my computer, you never ask for more! you can be a princess, or you can be my whore! and it’s never been quite so easy. I’ve never been quite so happy!!! the world outside is so big, but it’s safe in my domain, because to you, I’m just a number and a clever screen name! all I need to do is click on you! and we’ll be together for eternity, and no one is ever gonna take my love from me, because I’ve got security, her password and a key!
I made every one of these predictions years ago
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
in fact, this green text was made purely from asking chatgpt what ai will look like in 10 years
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Unironically the best greentext I ever read was the bottomless pit one written by AI
That was like 3 years ago when generative AI was fun and whimsical
kogasa@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
The last time I had fun with LLMs was back when GPT2 was cutting-edge, I fine-tuned GPT2-Medium on Twitch chat logs and it alternates between emote spam, complete incoherence, blatantly unhinged comments, and suspiciously normal ones. The bot is still in use as a toy, specifically because it’s deranged and unpredictable. It’s like a kaleidoscope for the slice of internet subculture it was trained on, much more fun than a plain flawless mirror.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
The first ai green texts made me laugh so much. They managed to perfectly capture the essence of a green text but because they were dumb they would create the most weird situations.
Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Link?