Video evidence is relatively easy to fix, you just need camera ICs to cryptographically sign their outputs. If the image/video is tampered with (or even re-encoded) the signature won’t match. As the private key is (hopefully!) stored securely in the hardware IC taking the photo/video, any generated images or videos can’t be signed by such a private key.
Anon predicts the future
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Rossphorus@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
topherclay@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
So whatever way the camera output is being signed, what’s stopping you from signing an altered video with a similar private key and then saying “you can all trust that my video is real because I have the private key for it.”
The doubters will have to concede that the video did indeed come from you because it pairs with your key, but why would anyone trust that the key came from the camera step instead of coming from the editing step?
Taleya@aussie.zone 2 hours ago
Mate, digital cinema uses this encryption /decryption method for KDMs.
The keys are tied into multiple physical hardware ids, many of which (such as player/.projector ) are also married cryptographically. Any deviation along a massive chain and you get no content.
Those playback keys are produced from DKDMs that are insanely tightly controlled. The DKDM production itself even more so.
And that’s just to play a movie. This is proven tech, decades old. You’re not gonna break it with premiere.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
You can enter the camera as evidence, and prove that it has been used for other footage. Each camera should have a unique key to be effective.
So if you create a new key, it won’t match the one on am existing camera. If you steal the key, then once that’s discovered, the camera should generate a new one.
Rossphorus@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
You, the end user, don’t have access to your camera’s private key. Only the camera IC does. When your phone / SD card first receives the image/video it’s already been signed by the hardware.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 1 day ago
in fact, this green text was made purely from asking chatgpt what ai will look like in 10 years
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Unironically the best greentext I ever read was the bottomless pit one written by AI
That was like 3 years ago when generative AI was fun and whimsical
kogasa@programming.dev 21 hours ago
The last time I had fun with LLMs was back when GPT2 was cutting-edge, I fine-tuned GPT2-Medium on Twitch chat logs and it alternates between emote spam, complete incoherence, blatantly unhinged comments, and suspiciously normal ones. The bot is still in use as a toy, specifically because it’s deranged and unpredictable. It’s like a kaleidoscope for the slice of internet subculture it was trained on, much more fun than a plain flawless mirror.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 13 hours ago
The first ai green texts made me laugh so much. They managed to perfectly capture the essence of a green text but because they were dumb they would create the most weird situations.
nailbar@sopuli.xyz 17 hours ago
I wonder if personal websites with links to each other, like in the olden days, will start growing in popularity again because of how trust is slowly eroded for anything not in your direct control 🤔
leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 15 hours ago
laranis@lemmy.zip 10 hours ago
But, but, how will we monetize it? How!?
/s
I long for the early 2k internet. So much potential positivity for humanity.
sandflavoured@lemm.ee 16 hours ago
Same here! This will be the way for me.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
Gotta spin me up a Neocities page…
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 day ago
This guy bought so many rare monkey tokens. Ai is impressive in some aspects, but it’s not nearly as impressive as the marketing that drives the massive amounts of investment into it.
The US economy is doing anything it can to create growth, which is causing investors to create a bubble around AI that is “too big to fail”.
fckreddit@lemmy.ml 23 hours ago
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell.” - Edward Abbey.
Owlboi@lemm.ee 14 hours ago
you seem to underestimate just how fast ai is growing.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
It’s growing fast, yes, but it’s nowhere near actually intelligent or hyperrealistic to the point it’s fooling anyone familiar with the tech.
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I think this vastly overestimates the average person’s ability to recognise it even care to recognise what is a bit and what is not.
You’ve got all those videos on Facebook which are BLATANTLY AI and the comment section is split between “wow, amazing!” and “it’s AI you fucking morons”
The latter will eventually leave the platform and the former will be all that’s left.
breecher@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
And it is not going to take 10 years. It is right around the corner.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 13 hours ago
Then new people will grow up in an environment where its only the wow amazing people and they never hear from the its ai you moron people.
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
We’re a dying breed. There are people alive today who will never know anything other than the post truth world.
Interesting times.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Actually, polls show that most people are not fond of AI-generated content and want it to be labelled or don’t want it at all.
As for generating your own entertainment at home, see interactive movies. They did not take off because people don’t want to be “working” for their entertainment. That’s their time to relax and not make decisions.
All in all, we’re not as careless as it may seem.
Taleya@aussie.zone 2 hours ago
A fb group i moderate recently had an AI jammed up it. I ran a poll to keep or disable. “Get rid of it” got more votes than the option “Put a gimp mask on it and whore it out for grapefruit”
ICastFist@programming.dev 10 hours ago
Not to mention those interactive movies from the early 90s games that also didn’t take off because they were sorely lacking in the game department
thecoffeehobbit@sopuli.xyz 10 hours ago
I’d be very interested in these polls if you have some to link!
ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
This has already happened, many years ago. I know this because everyone but me is actually a highly sophisticated robot that resembles a member of my species. I’m onto you.
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
This is the bad place and everyone is a tortue demon. The worst version of The Truman Show.
ddplf@szmer.info 20 hours ago
When I was a kid I had a theory that I’m the only conscient being in the world, and that everyone is some sort of a robot.
I couldn’t share it with anyone, because obviously no one was real but me.
insomniac@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
He figured it out. Time to shut it down.
Turret3857@infosec.pub 18 hours ago
you can’t trick me machine. You can’t convince me I am the robot and you are the conscious. it can’t be possible.
elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Part of the fun of watching stuff isn’t because it “customised to me” it’s sharing an experience with the creator(s) and friends, family etc.
I see genAI being used as a tool for creators but not as an automation of content creation.
rtxn@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
AI would be chronically incapable of implementing actually surprising plot twists that are both unexpected and consistent with the rest of the plot (and not somehow someone back into existence). If it hadn’t been written before, an AI would never make Darth Vader be Luke’s father unless specifically prompted, at which point, why even.
(I’ve just finished a hexalogy marathon, my head is full of jedi.)
Lumisal@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I don’t think everyone is into that link tho (/j)
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 12 hours ago
Just swap security cameras back over to analog, problem solved for video evidence
Opisek@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
You could just as easily burn a deepfake onto tape.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
Shit
halvar@lemy.lol 20 hours ago
I personally doubt that will happen, since the current models require a lot of data to get better, something we actually don’t have. The real danger is what happens once we figure out how to make models without an absurd amount of data.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
As well as that, the internet is less reliable since there’s a lot more botshit on it.
yournamehere@lemm.ee 17 hours ago
email. gmail already summarizes every mail by default in the US. most emails are bot spam. ppl start using ai bots to answer emails. is that the internet of things?
wanderwisley@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
Reading this made my eye twitch.
DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 1 hour ago
Just the kind of anthropomorphism a bot would use 🤔
match@pawb.social 19 hours ago
We should get polaroids and analog film again
CPMSP@midwest.social 18 hours ago
TIHI
WILSOOON@programming.dev 19 hours ago
Skynut is coming, in all its smutty glory and we can do nothing about it
Quexotic@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
I have long-since decided to stop watching new media altogether, opting instead for anime that I downloaded and hoarded before 2030, that I can verify was made before generative AI gained popularity
And I’m open to recommendations
Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I have a friend that does a rolling schedule on her hoarded old media, which according to her, is sufficient for the rest of her life.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
Frankly I could probably make do with what I got. If I redownloaded every anime I ever watched, I’d have a little over 4 years worth of material to watch and rewatch over and over again. But if I never saw anything new, I’d never see anything new, and all my favorite shows were new once
fckreddit@lemmy.ml 21 hours ago
War and Peace 1966. A great adaptation of a great novel.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Wouldn’t be against that
Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Would.
chunes@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I would put up with all the negatives if I could generate quality video games with a prompt.
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 22 hours ago
BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I made every one of these predictions years ago
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 22 hours ago
Before the invention of video, humanity didn’t have video evidence either and still managed. We are approaching the end of a ~150 year time period in the history of humanity in which video evidence is persuasive.
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
“Managed” in the sense that crimes could only really be resolved if you had witnesses, and “managed” in the sense that it was far more common for people to be wrongly convicted. Photo and video evidence are pretty crucial to having modern crime resolution rates.
Gork@sopuli.xyz 23 hours ago
The last bullet is true even now. Just go into Threads or Bluesky. So many bots and scammers.
Dogyote@slrpnk.net 19 minutes ago
Simetimes I think the future will resemble the pre-internet era. AI content will be so easy to create that the zone will be flooded with shit, and only a few reputable sources will be trusted, like when there were only a few TV news channels.