Seeing how they screwed over Mick Gordon, the composer for the previous two installments, I’ll vote with my wallet and skip this one. My backlog is big enough as it is anyway.
DOOM: The Dark Ages Has Reportedly Sold Less Than 1 Million Copies
Submitted 3 weeks ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
https://80.lv/articles/doom-the-dark-ages-has-reportedly-sold-less-than-1-million-copies/
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Aganim@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Doom Eternal is a beautiful album that includes a lovely mini-game.
Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
Doom Eternal? The game with a soundtrack that was made up of butchered parts of Gordon’s work, welded together by a novice, at the command of an egotistical dickhead who slandered Gordon after the fact?
medium.com/…/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-ete…
Eternals original OST was very poor compared to Doom 2016. Big reason I never bothered with the game.
MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Same
yesman@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
meant to mislead potential players into thinking the game is successful when, in fact, it’s severely underperforming behind the scenes.
Why would a player in a single-player game give a tiny shit about how popular it is? It’s the investor class that cares about that; stop treating their interests as a natural good.
Aux@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
“Investor class”, lol wtf is this new lunacy?
Feyd@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
It’s old lunacy. Believe it or not we live in a class based society where the vast majority of the people that actually provide value to society have their labor stolen by leeches that make money by having money and that is what that person means by the investor class.
AngryishHumanoid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That term is decades old, it’s fine if you haven’t heard it before but maybe consider that possibility before replying like that and looking like an asshole.
Murvel@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
This is Lemmy; everything is politics and it’s really fun and mentally healthy
Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It’s a bad game
mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Marty Stratton and his denuvo riddled pos game can kindly get fukt after what he did to Mick Gordon, the composer of the banger soundtrack for Doom 2016.
kurcatovium@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Holy fucking shit! I live under the rock in the middle of nowhere so I’ve heard only some brief parts of “something wrong with DOOM Eternal music” but nothing factual. Now I gave the time to read the whole article and I’m speechless. 'Cause this is bad, really, really, REALLY bad. I feel sorry for people that have to work and live under such assholes like Marty obviously is…
Hadriscus@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Yea, I read that a few weeks ago and it convinced to not touch Doom TDA. I mean, maybe pirate it, but certainly not buy it.
Don_alForno@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Wow. I already wasn’t going to buy any more Bethesda slop, but now I’m not going to buy it twice.
nfreak@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Let’s see
- The game itself takes away a lot of pieces of the formula that made 2016 and Eternal so good
- $80 price tag
- BDS boycott
I’m shocked that it’s not selling, absolutely shocked.
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 3 weeks ago
It’s $70 though?
nfreak@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Was thinking of BL4. Still pretty egregious though
IronKrill@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
And also, for some of us:
- Boycott due to Mick Gordon’s treatment.
nfreak@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
TRUE, I knew I was forgetting something else
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
[deleted]Saleh@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
BDS is a global movement calling for boycotts, divestment and ultimately sanctions of Israel and companies complicit in Israels illegal occupation and other crimes against the Palestinian people.
Microsoft provides AI tools to the Israeli army -IDF- which are used to automatically designate people as targets for bombing. Among other things a particular heinous AI is infamously named “Where’s Daddy”, where bombings are timed so that the target is killed upon arriving home, so their entire family is also murdered.
www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/
apnews.com/…/microsoft-israel-military-gaza-hamas…Activision Blizzard, Bethesda, iD-Software, Zenimax, Mojang (Minecraft) and others are all owned by Microsoft.
nfreak@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Microsoft (and by extension id and Bethesda) are a priority target for the BDS boycotts against Israel
CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Google says BDS stands for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (against Isreal.)
Damarus@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
It’s also 80€ in Europe. Everyone I talked to is waiting for the price to drop, including me.
arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It’s £70 in the uk, that’s $95 while in the us it costs $70, which is £50. Xbox did the same thing with the new call of duty, their regional pricing is so braindead.
jackod@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
$130 NZD, I don’t want to guess what $80 USD games are going to “convert” too 😮💨
Flemmy@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I just aquired a value cap to my interest in digital entertainment. Using the vacation money on living/home improvements and built for life camping gear. €25 indie rpg’s and films for the tablet is enough but then again I have no teenage children that demand top shelf brands or else.
caut_R@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don‘t buy any digital copy of a game for over 45 bucks, doesn‘t matter what it is… I also haven‘t finished DOOM 2016 yet and haven‘t even started Eternal. Not because they‘re bad games or because I don‘t like FPSs, but because I have so much shit to play and so little time.
Competition is fierce and asking 80 bucks when I got the predecessors for less than 5 each is just not happening. Just because games cost more to produce doesn‘t magically make customers have more money and time. It‘ll make release weeks stinkers outside of your GOTYs and makes more people wait or go back to 20+ years worth of other games that aren‘t 80 bucks.
TaiCrunch@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
$20 is the limit for me. I’m perfectly fine waiting a few years to play the game, if it still exists by that point. If it doesn’t, then I’m glad I didn’t waste my time.
caut_R@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And another plus is that you get to play the games as bug free as they‘ll get AND at higher framerates assuming your hardware improved in the meantime. I certainly wouldn‘t have been able to get the high fidelity DOOM 2016 experience I can get now (at a high framerate) way back when it released.
Downside is that if there‘s any multiplayer component to a game, it‘s probably pretty damn dead years later. But first, I personally don‘t care much about that anymore and second, games bleed the majority of their playerbase within months anyway so it‘s whatever.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Games cost more to produce but there’s more customers than ever
pm_me_anime_thighs@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
And its certainly not the developers who are getting all that extra money.
Quazatron@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Amen.
trslim@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Forcing raytracing is a great way to close off a bunch of customers.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not just because some people don’t have it either, but for anything with RTX2000/3000 and RDNA2, Forced RT is just forced low framerate.
I hope making everyone dynamically draw the lights and shadows in realtime for a linear game was worth the 15c it saved on Microsoft’s electricity bill for not pre-baking overnight.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Yep, that and it looks like the base Doom formula has been watered down a lot from the gameplay I’ve seen.
The release of new games sometimes makes me play older titles, going through Doom 2 with some tasty mods atm.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Game is 70$ on Steam US and has a very positive review. That is still too much money unless this is a game you were really looking forward to.
demizerone@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I would have bought it of it didn’t have denovo. I’ll wait til its stripped out.
Sunshine@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
The raytracing requirement is fine but having to deal with denuvo is a bridge too far.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Why does it need anti cheat? It’s a single player game.
LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Denuvo’s DRM instead of anti-cheat.
Though I also was wondering the same thing. Took me a minute to remember lmao.
xangadix@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m one of the biggest fans of the DOOM franchise, I’ve played all the versions since the original one in 1993. But I don’t care if I play it now or in half a year. Or a year for that matter. Never really understood why having it first matters to anyone. I’ll be here when the prices drop.
I was stupid enough to buy SpaceMarine when it came out, at full price (mostly because I loved Boltgun so much) and that was a great lesson in waiting around a bit before actually buying a game. It would have been a fun game for 15 or even 20 euro, but it’s not worth 70 euro. I Should have bought helldivers, anyway 😓
hushable@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m on the same boat, I got 2016 around Eternal release date for like €10 and loved it. Then I bought Eternal just last year for a similar deal and I haven’t finished the DLC yet. I am more than happy to wait for DA to go on sale.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
I regretted buying HellDivers. I honestly think that it becoming as popular as it did is a damning indictment of the state of coop shooters.
xangadix@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I still haven’t bought it, played it at a friend for a while, and had a lot of fun 🤷
bizzle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I bought Space Marine 2 at launch, decided it needed more time. So I got Helldivers 2 which I immediately got addicted to and I love it.
xangadix@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Did you find it got better after the updates, I still think space marine is kind of meh, my son has fun with it though, which is nice
TripleIris@lemmy.wtf 3 weeks ago
AAA gaming is dead. Indies have been carrying gaming for years now.
nawa@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not sure about hardcore Doom fans but the game looks uninteresting to me specifically. It’s like a polar opposite from Doom 2016 judging by all the videos I’ve seen. Don’t really care about the higher price, I’d get it if I liked it but it really doesn’t click for me.
trslim@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Ive really not cared about the direction the story has been taking, and im not a huge fan of the newer atmosphere. 2016 felt like it still had horror elements, the demons felt dangerous and doomguy, while incredibly strong, still felt like vulnerable, especially with the custom death scenes. Now he has like this god aura around him, which is cool i guess, but him battling for survival will always be cooler to me than him being like a living god. Also the zero third person cutscenes will always be superior to me, even though i understand why others may not like it.
Goretantath@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Would have been the perfect doom game if they didnt make it so every bout of combat ended in a whimper. Even the mech fights dont end gloriously.
Feyd@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
I didn’t even look at it enough to know if I’d buy it otherwise when I saw it has denuvo. Always online DRM is a hard pass for me. I haven’t played the last 3 games Atlus released either and I’ve been playing almost every one since the ps2 era.
tiny_hedgehog@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
*fewer than
daggermoon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The DRM kept me from buying it
TommySoda@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As much as I love the Doom games I’m not really a fan of the $70 price tag. The Doom games are great games but it’s not like they are in my top 5 favorite games or anything like that. I’ll wait for a sale.
Emil_Zatopek1982@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That price was doomed.
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.
Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?
Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I just barely convinced myself to spend €80 on a single game, then noticed Denuvo. Hard pass
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’m pretty sure that’s exactly how they want it to be. If they were interested in selling games they wouldn’t put them day one on gamepass.
theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
In this economy? I’m sure its worth it but $70 is $70.
Kurious84@eviltoast.org 3 weeks ago
I tell ya I se 70 bucks for a game when everything is small and you get no value for your dollar and everything costs more. No thanks.
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Well it has Denuvo… I wasn’t buying that shit
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
For me anyway, my loss of interest in the DOOM franchise started when they started dehumanizing the Doom Marine and started stacking fantastic/medieval elements to the main protagonist and his arsenal.
I like my DOOM games when it is a battle of sci-fi military forces against demonic forces. Human technology versus brutish monsters. But now with Dark Ages Bethesda turned the franchise into a more violent and edgy Skyrim.
burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
there’s a gorillion reasons why it isnt doing so hot, but i could make a few uneducated guesses. one, gamepass subscriptions, which obfuscate the data and has sent multiple studios to the grave even when they had moderate success. two, the economy is terrible in the US and getting worse by the day, making a $70+ game not an appealing purchase. three, maybe the Boycott Divestment Sanctions protest is having some effect.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
On GamePass though, isn’t it? Only people actually buying would be on PS5 and the neversub gang.
Kirp123@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I hope this shows companies that selling their games at 80 Euro is not the way to go.
Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Expedition 33 kinda takes all my time.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Bethesda ought to just let the Doom IP go and give it to someone who actually cares.
I will never give a single red cent to Bethesda ever again and I sure as hell ain’t doing it for this. Whatever this is has no business claiming to be a Doom game. They probably would have had slightly better luck if they slapped the veneer of some other IP over it rather than Doom.
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
MITM0@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh & denuvo
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Mostly this. I’m not paying for something that comes with malware. Not for $80, $20, or $1. Nobody should pay for malware.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Denuvo is the only reason I’m waiting. I’m on Linux, and I’m not risking that Proton change license issue. And also I hate the performance hit that Denuvo causes.
wcSyndrome@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Where is it $80?
RiQuY@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
80€ in Steam Spain.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not in Australia, it’s $120 here.
Todd, Marty, Phil and Satya can suck an egg together.
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
Steam, the cheapest I see it as is 79,99€ where I am, which is actually US$90. I just assumed the US store did a straight conversion to dollars, but you’re getting a discount too, it seems.
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 3 weeks ago
It’s $70
pennomi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Depends on your location in the world. Which shows just how arbitrary the price actually is.
overload@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Also, it reviewed well but with some annoying caveats.
utopiah@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean… I don’t play Doom due to DRM but also to be fair Expedition 33 is “just” 40ish hours whereas Doom is (check notes) less than 20hrs to complete? WTH. Nope.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
20 and 40 hours both sound pretty terrible for such expensive games. Got far more out of games like Factorio and for a lot less.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Also… I think you missed this one… It’s $80.
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Gonna wait for a code and a sale in a year