Vote with your wallet. Money is the only thing that matters to the people in charge here
What can US citizens do to fight/prevent their country enabling genocide?
Submitted 2 days ago by Pat12@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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ryan_@lemmy.world 2 days ago
the_q@lemm.ee 2 days ago
This but big. Large scale disruption to the economy would do a lot toward fixing problems.
69420@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Exactly. Here’s a thought… and I’m just spitballing here: tariffs. Then take them away. Then add them again. Then take them away. Then add them again. /s
AreaKode@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The harmful corruption must be torn down before peaceful negotiation may take place.
Nomecks@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
So just sit back and let Trump do his thing?
theneverfox@pawb.social 1 day ago
Voting with your wallet is a lie, like recycling plastic
You can’t do collective action individually. You can make the house hurt a little bit, but you’ll never force them to change through what you buy. The house always wins, unless you get together to change the rules
steeznson@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I disagree with this. You can already see a recent example of Canadian consumers avoiding US imports, creating pressure on US companies, and the US government reacting by making moves to curtail the original tarrifs proposal.
Obviously the Canadian boycott was only one component but I believe it did have a meaningful impact.
Kind of agree with you re:plastics. Last time I read about it they could only be recycled once into inferior quality plastic. Ironically in this case I’d suggest voting with your wallet is a solution to the plastic problem since businesses will react to more consumers switching to responsibly packaged products like paper bags for fruit + veg from a local grocers. One of the large supermarket chains in the UK, Waitrose, switched to paper bags due to public pressure in the past few years.
Pat12@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Can you give some examples?
ryan_@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Where possible, avoid buying from companies that are complicit.
I’ve used apps like this to help make decisions:
recently_Coco@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Buy local, in cash.
Every card transaction benefits the big credit card companies, all of which are complicit. Local businesses are some of the ones hit hardest from all of this and will need your support.
Avoid chains owned by local folks, too. Those big chains still benefit even if it’s your neighbor that owns the local McDonalds.
Support things the government is trying to destroy, like your local library, and your local stores that sell LGBT positive merchandise.
Make friends with your neighbors. Grow things in your yard that they need and trade for stuff you need. Many folks that seem in agreement with all of this really aren’t if you know them. We are stronger together.
In regards to home gardens, Not everyone needs everything, but everyone needs something. If you can get chickens or some kind of egg laying fowl, then that’s a possibility as well. Guineas are fighters and do well in areas without a lot of brush or low trees.
Bike as much as you can. Avoid gas as much as you can. Ride the bus or a train. Don’t fly anywhere. Install solar panels if you are able. Capture rain water and use it for your garden.
But used as much as possible, especially clothes.
Replace your single use materials in your home with reusable ones. Rags instead of paper towels, glass containers instead of plastic ones, metal straws, and a water pick instead of floss.
Make things. Anything. Don’t monetize your hobbies, share them instead. Trade homemade goods and art for other stuff.
Avoid the dollar as much as possible, and use cash when you can’t.
LesserAbe@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Thanks for attempting an answer. I’ve got to say this feels laughable in light of what’s going on.
match@pawb.social 1 day ago
“vote with your wallet” while our wallets are empty
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Unless you’re a billionaire or willing to go full Player 2, there’s nothing you can do on a macro scale.
You can, in your little slice of the world, do good things. When ICE asks you if you’ve seen someone, you tell them you haven’t. If you’re walking past a business getting raided and see a brown person, you tell them to turn around and get away. If you run a school and ICE shows up, you stand up for the kids they’re trying to kidnap. If you see ICE kidnapping someone, at minimum, film and post it. If there’s a group of people willing to physically intervene, join them.
That’s it.
Voting doesn’t solve this because all Democrats have to offer is strongly-worded letters. Their choice was aiding and abetting fascism or getting richer, and they chose the money.
Disaster@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Furthermore:
Be aware of local political groups in your areas that share values that align with yours. Generally, have a practice of being involved. Work out how your state and local elections and party machines operate, run for empty positions or support good candidates who will do the job, and not sell out to the local moneybags.
Attend protests. Sure, it might look like a bunch of people standing outside getting rained on with soggy cardboard signs, but protest works. It shows others that even though you may be afraid, you’re still standing up for what you believe is right. Support protests you agree with - order them some pizzas or something.
There’s no longer a choice about what to do - become an activist, or become complicit.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Attend protests.
Meh, not sure I agree on this one, unless you’re part of the Marsha P. Johnson school of brick throwing and you’re going armed.
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
👏👏👏
puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
join your local protests today :)
if protests didn’t work they wouldn’t try so hard to fight it/buty it
they say violence is never the answer but historically, well, history disagrees.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 days ago
My issue is I never know there ARE protests until like 4 days after it happened.
puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
ugh. for real though lol
I’ve been recommended 50501 and mobilize.us
there’s also !50501@piefed.social and !Mirror@50501.chat on lemmy
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Check for any local organizations such as DSA. Their mailing lists can keep you posted on protests near you
HiTekRedNek@lemm.ee 22 hours ago
When the government is powerful enough to cause genocides, that’s a problem. It’s far easier to just not give your money to a business that engages in such practices.
Not giving money to your government, however, is considered tax evasion.
delusion@lemmy.myserv.one 1 day ago
Talk with people! Discuss it with your friends! Be aware that they might have a very different outlook on this, so be patient with people. Here is a list of things to do when discussing this with people supporting Israel:
- Don’t berate them. These are your friends, not murderers. Direct your anger towards the actual murderers.
- Ask them if they believe Israel is mounting a heavy disinformation/propaganda campaign towards the west. If they do not believe this, it is relatively easy to prove, see example below.
- Show them the Twitter accs of Itamar Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich. These guys are quite outspoken in their intentions.
- Show them examples of heroic acts of Palestinas, rather than just Palestinians suffering. This will help them respect Arabs, as that seems to be difficult for many Americans due to two and a half decades of Indoctrination that all arabs all terrorists.
- Also the obvious things (tens of thousands of children killed, not letting food enter, cutting off water, etc)
Example of Israeli disinformation: They created a fake hamas website (hamas dotttt com) whereas the real website was taken down from all of internet (hamas dottt ps). The fake one was heavily promoted by Israel’s official twitter acc and several Israeli government officials on twitter and recieved heavy traffic during Oct 2023-end of 2024. Use the wayback machine or similar for this, I believe both sites are down now.
There has also been many, many other lies by the Israeli government. Find proved examples and show.
jaemo@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Learn basic electronics and how to solder to weaponize commercial drones.
rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
- get a sniper rifle
- train to take out targets at a large distance
- know where and when ICE will be, especially where they will muster before one of their “raids”
- in many cases, there will be little to no difference between ICE and LEO. Both are putting on brown shirts and violently attacking their own communities.
Fascism can only be perpetuated when fascists do not fear being killed. If you are not with them, they will gladly kill you – it’s time you took steps to protect yourself and your community.
systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Become Luigi.
muusemuuse@lemm.ee 23 hours ago
leave the country. You are paying taxes, purchasing goods and services, raising families, and just being here enables the genocide machine to continue churning. We have no representation here. It’s all performative. But take their money away and oh boy do they notice that.
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 16 hours ago
Ok moneybags what us poors?
muusemuuse@lemm.ee 16 hours ago
I can’t afford to leave either. Which means I can’t fight back either.
Emergency3030@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Next election vote EVERYONE OUT. No Republicans (MAGA) should be left in Congress to make sure they give a hell to Trump and force him to quit (almost near impossible) but that’s the only way
GoodWaterBottle@lemmus.org 1 day ago
60000 people died in gaza by june last year, asshole. Remind me who was in charge then?
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
No, 60 thousand people were positively confirmed to have been directly killed by Israeli munitions. The number of people who died in total was estimated at a quarter million.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
How would that help? The Democrats were also doing genocide
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 1 day ago
the SPD and KPD should’ve just voted the Nazis out of power, right guys?
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
It’s worse than that. The guy is suggesting to replace the Nazis with Nazis-lite lol
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Someone is feeling positive and adventurous, talking about voting and stuff… Do you really think that you’ll be able to vote in a fair election next time?
The work that I’ve seen done to sabotage voting before and after last US elections ntrlls me that cheeto&co are hell bent on making sure no one in the US will be able to vote honestly ever again.
The time to do something was 6 months ago, now its too little, too late
trololo@lemmings.world 1 day ago
60000 people had died in gaza by june last year according to the lancet. Remind me who was in charge then?
MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
I don’t know, but I know of one thing citizens SHOULDN’T do to prevent their country enabling genocide. That is forfeiting their future by electing a dictator that might genocide poor people on the other side of the world a little less. I get it. Voluntarily making our lives worse because it might help poor people in another country sounds like a noble thing to do. But now they’re genocide American citizens too. Don’t be like gen Z and swing voters in 2024. Don’t do that at all costs.
GoodWaterBottle@lemmus.org 1 day ago
60000 gazans had died by june last year according to the lancet. Remind me who was in charge then?
This is shocking to me. The person is genuinely asking how to stop genociders and some idiot comes and tell him to vote for them.
trololo@lemmings.world 1 day ago
No offense but you don’t deserve being saved. You’re a scumbag.
60000 people had died in gaza by june last year according to the lancet. Remind me who was in charge then?
AidsKitty@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Is the USA enabling genocide?
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
The USA was built on genocide goddammit
Whole nations of people wiped out
And yes, obviously, Gaza.
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 16 hours ago
Most nations are built on genocide, it’s an unfortunate part of human nature to be cruel to those not like your group.I mean the last hundred years alone, the of Cossacks if Crimea, the holocaust, Kaiser run Germany committed one before WW2, Ottomans genocide Armenia, China is actively engaged in one now, as well as Israels current actions in Gaza, and that’s just off the top of my head, but somehow only the USA is built on it. You ignore the skeletons in your own foundations and dishonor yourself and their deaths by doing so
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
If anything, enabling is too soft a word
AidsKitty@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Look guys, we have weapons to sell. It’s what we do.
GoodWaterBottle@lemmus.org 1 day ago
Yes
GermXXXNomo@lemmings.world 1 day ago
Yes.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Buy a gun, and start learning to use it. Now is not the time, but be prepared should it.
Zenith@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Step 3, find Stephen Miller once you’ve mastered step one and two
K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Stop supporting the right wing duopoly that enabled it
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 days ago
On an individual level one should also start getting fit and learning basic defensr/boxing.
grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 19 hours ago
And “fit” doesn’t have to mean “able to run a marathon”. That might not be achievable for you. Even minor improvements can be big, though. For example, I have lower back pain. It sucks and I do not recommend it.
I’ve started physical therapy. It’s two 30-minute sessions a week, plus 10 minutes of homework stretches every day. My pain is much less than when I started.
I feel much more able to do things like long trips to the grocery store. Before, I’d sometimes have to beg off and lie down in the car and let my partner finish the trip.
Anyways, fitness. It’s good. YMMV, PT might not work for you, I am not a doctor.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
And “fit” doesn’t have to mean “able to run a marathon”.
True, but many people cannot jog a mile. Let alone a flight of stairs.
njm1314@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Fuck I’ll say that. The best thing for everybody is if Nazis are physically afraid to walk the streets.
centof@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Bold of you to assume they walk anywhere. This is America not communist China with public sidewalks and transit.
angelmountain@feddit.nl 2 days ago
Speak up, tell people what you think and why.
If that doesn’t work: something was added to your constitution for this situation, the second amendment. You can use your six shooter to go up to the government’s tank and gunships. Good luck.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 days ago
We don’t put it in the tourism brochures, but it turns out guns are really expensive and the fash seems to have all the money at the moment.
bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Go to gaza
GoodWaterBottle@lemmus.org 1 day ago
What an horrible thing to say. My best friend sister tried going there. The boat got bombed in malta.
GermXXXNomo@lemmings.world 1 day ago
They almost killed my sister’s best friend for wanting to go there bring food, asshole.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
Is the USA enabling genocide currently? How?
leftytighty@slrpnk.net 12 hours ago
Oh hey it’s once again the “freedom advocate” who is always spouting off support for the most fascist oppressive shit going on in the world. I should learn how to block in this new app
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 hours ago
Oh look, another lefty who I have no idea who they are whose head I live rent free in :)
delusion@lemmy.myserv.one 1 day ago
I take it you do not believe Israel is commiting genocide? Or are you genuinely asking in which way the USA is enabling this?
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 12 hours ago
Both.
trololo@lemmings.world 1 day ago
gaza
Chivera@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Turning it off and on again
Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Sing a bar of Alice’s restaurant…
Genius@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
General strikes
Tax strikes
scottrepreneur@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Primary, right?