Made the jump to Linux. No issues so far, very happy with the switch
6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
Submitted 1 week ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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julysfire@lemmy.world 1 week ago
pycorax@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Unpopular opinion but I’m just using 11. I deal with enough problems with Linux at work and as hard as it is to believe, Windows just work and fits my workflow too well. Linux works great on my Steam Deck but the occasional weird quirks it has with certain games/launchers means I can’t use it as my main gaming platform, it’s only fine on the Deck because it has advantages for the form factor.
novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 1 week ago
All games work in 11. You will get the best picture quality for graphics on 11. More DX9 games work in 11 than worked in 10. Path tracing is best on 11. I have some games that are DVD installs, no game store launcher.
There are different Linux programs that address most Windows issues but not all. With Windows, you can install Win 11, install GPU driver, and start playing games. I do avoid using Steam due to their extortion, so eventually I find games that can’t run on Linux.
gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 1 week ago
Windows 11 has better image quality? I’m sorry what?
TheFANUM@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Been Linux exclusively for 20 years. Win 11 sure isn’t going to change that
PushButton@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Imagine that, Windows 11 can remember everything you did in the past 3 months, it’s making sure that you didn’t forget about Office 365, Xbox Live subscriptions, and about Edge, the browser embedded deeply in the OS…
Sometimes, for your convenience, it will put Edge as the default, but you totally can change it back to what it was!
Are you sure you don’t want to switch? You’re missing a lot there…
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 1 week ago
I despise Microsoft just as much as you do, but I’ve never encountered the things you just wrote. Ist that a home edition problem?
Cocopanda@futurology.today 1 week ago
If I can still game. I might just move to Linux. But also am enjoying pricing out a windows 11 build with my imaginary budget.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Check Proton DB. If the games you enjoy work fine on Linux, which is the case for most games these days thanks to Proton, you should be good. The big exception is games with kernel-level anticheat.
If not, you can always dual boot for the few games that don’t.
I made the switch to pure Linux gaming when I got my Steam Deck two years ago. Been loving it ever since. Even SteamVR games work great streaming to my Quest headset.
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 week ago
The only things that don’t work at this point have actual malware as a mandatory requirement
Cocopanda@futurology.today 1 week ago
I’m sure WarThunder is included in that.
Emerald@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I’ll keep using linux on my main pcs and I’ll still keep using windows 10 on my secondary laptop
InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I might get downvoted or whatever but Windows 11 is fine. I get it if your PC straight up can’t run it, that’s a tough spot. But as an OS it’s fine, even has a few handy features (besides all the AI crap shoehorned in). I actually like the File Explorer changes and the window snap stuff can work in the right setting.
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 week ago
No it isnt, the bloat is actually insane.
InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Can I ask how you got Win11? And are we talking MS feature bloat or third party stuff? I had Micro Center build my PC so it didn’t come from a manufacturer. There doesn’t seem to be any third party bloat, besides the occasional fucking ad for an app in the Start menu.
daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 week ago
The reason I switched from Windows is the telemetry. Yes, you can disable it but I don’t know for sure it’s actually off. I’m sure it has other back doors too. It sucks because they had something great with Windows 7 and they ruined it. Also, forcing an online account really pissed me off. I couldn’t even install WSL without using the Microsoft Store. Funny enough, the complaint I remember most about Windows 11 didn’t bother me at all. The start menu being in the center I kinda liked. I remember using an app on Windows 10 to achieve the same thing.
specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Just moved my Win10 machine to Pop OS. No issues at all. Haven’t tried Steam VR on it yet.
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Me too a couple months ago, Pop OS has been awesome for me
histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
As long as your not streaming to a quest vr is great cause at least last time I tried it didn’t work that was a year or 2 back now though
corroded@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Windows 10 IoT LTSC has support until 2032. Just saying…
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I want to move to Linux, but I need to be able to use the VPN service my work uses and I’m just not sure how to get it working on Linux. I should just dual boot.
techognito@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Without prodding too much into what VPN you work uses
Most VPN solutions run on linux just fine, even Microsoft PPTP VPN solution works fine. I would probably check with your IT department what protocol they use and any connection caveats (like machine certificates used for authentication) and look into the different VPN solutions (some examples; WireGuard and OpenVPN are very well supported, IPSec (libreswan or strongswan are options here) depends on setup, PPTP/L2TP should work with most setups (I have to admin I havn’t touched those enough), vpnc works with Cisco base IPsec setups and openconnect works with most SSL VPN connection)
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It’s Watchguard. Though looking at their site, it seems like there might be support that I wasn’t able to find last time I looked into this. Definitely want to dual boot at some point. I’ve got a Surface Book 3 though, and I know it needs special kernel stuff to get working properly, so I’d almost rather just wait until my boss retires and everyone’s out of a job to dive into Linux. Easier than finding spare time in my life. Living the dream
tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 week ago
Dual-booting was how I first got into Linux; it truly leaves open the ability to keep everything you’re worried about not having.
What’s the VPN?
Frieren@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Made the upgrade last week to Linux mint and I’m loving it. Got my Arr stacks and stuff setup as dockers and it’s never worked so well. All the connection issues I’ve had on windows is now gone.
The interface is nice and not bloated. And I’m not being tracked which feels liberating.
Mouette@jlai.lu 1 week ago
Welcome :), if we’re being honest lot of the tracking still happens on Linux once you open your web browser but it definitively feel nice to be liberated of the one at OS level and a solid start for caring about online privacy
Frieren@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Yeah, it’s about reducing the amount of tracking though. I’ve since deleted my Google account, stopped using gmail, moved to proton, stopped using online password managers, deleted Reddit, quit watching YouTube, moved everything I can to open source programs. Libre office instead of 365 etc.
Mandelbrot@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Use my PC for gaming and RTX so Windows only I’m afraid.
SpaceCheeseWizard@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Linux would still be a good option. The driver isn’t as simple as AMD but not nearly as complicated as you would think. Unless you’re a Destiny 2, Fortnite, or League player you wouldn’t have any issues gaming either.
Alaknar@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Sooo, I’m in the same boat. Only, I sold my GPU expecting to get an upgrade and then didn’t for a long while - which is when I decided to make the switch to Linux, just to see how things go.
Now I added the GPU and - with issues - managed to get gaming going. It’s fine, I think. Played Hogwarts Legacy yesterday for a couple of hours. Got a 7800x3d and RX 9070 XT, with everything on Ultra (including Ray Tracing) and upscaling disabled, my GPU would be sitting between 80 and 100% utilisation, but FPS was very comfortable (don’t have a counter so don’t know exactly how many, but it was smooth).
HOWEVER, after a couple of hours my main monitor turned off and the other one turned… green. I think the graphics driver crashed? Not sure, honestly. Anyway, after a reboot everything was fine. Overall, I had a nice four hour-long session yesterday.
I guess what I’m saying is - give it a go! KDE is beautiful (do recommend Garuda Linux just for the design choices, but they also have A TONNE of “I’m a noob, help” features pre-configured), gaming is fine, you might enjoy it. And if you don’t, just switch back to Windows.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
Already fiddling around enough with tge stuff I do with my PC which I installed Win11 on and I am in the EU meaning less BS than the US version (no forced upgrades, no ads (as described by US citizens) and so on).
I use Debian on my server as it’s a tool. Same for my pc. And I have a steamdeck.
And every tool has it’s worth no matter if it’s made from shitty chinesium or baller titanium.
I like the way Windows handles most things and I prefer it over having to fiddle with the way every Linux distro does it’s own thing (and I will never use Ubuntu).
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Not gonna upgrade.
Have already had Linux for decades.
Linux still can’t handle anticheats for the games I play, so primarily on Windows I stay.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
No, I do not plan to jump to Linux, which doesn’t play many games still without a lot of headaches. Any other questions?
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 week ago
Yes, I do have questions, why?
why do you care about those games so much when 90% (actually more I think) work perfectly and the few that don’t fail because they have malware?
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 week ago
I have 11, so not directly affected. But with “no more security updates” being the only real reason one needs to change, the obvious question here is if there is 3rd party software that can protect a Windows 10 system?
I remember when anti-virus software was in common use.
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
Windows 10 LTSC gets updates for a while longer. I forget the exact number, but I wanna say it goes into the 2030s?
MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
It should be easy to get updates with a little hacky help, they’ll be available on the long term support schedule.
frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I tried out going 100% Linux a year ago. Unfortunately I was playing one of the very few games that has Linux issues. 100% CPU all the time was bugging me. It’s not the fault of Linux. Anyway, that’s how it played out. I may be tempted to try again soon.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I jumped ship to Linux Mint almost a year ago. No Microsoft products live here anymore. No regrets.
swag_money@lemmy.world 1 week ago
i jumped 🫡
mooncake@lemm.ee 1 week ago
I upgraded to Windows 11.
I tried Linux but but so much stuff isn’t supported so I got rid of it.
histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
What other then adobe and rootkit anti cheat’s don’t work
crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
For gaming, It’s mostly niche windows things in my experience. In my case I opted to stay on linux anyway. Also worth noting, I find that outside of gaming linux is superior for work and general pc use.
Some manufacturer programs for doing things like mouse macros or controlling LED lighting, auto hotkey scripts, some types of overlays tied to directx apis (yolomouse), etc. These things don’t and probably will never work. I think some of them might if you really know your stuff with wine, but that usually ends up being dependency hell for me and I give up more often than succeeding when trying to force a windows native program to run.
blomvik@sopuli.xyz 1 week ago
My gaming 'puter is running win 10, and the plan is to replace it with one running Manjaro. Will have to see when that happens, not upgrading to win 11.
victorz@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I upgraded as soon as I had the chance, to Windows 11. But I never boot into it because my games run absolutely fine on Arch using Steam and the Proton compatibility layer. 👍 No reason to boot Windows whatsoever. I can’t remember the last time I did. Every time I boot into it, the last system update finishes and a new one is available. 💀
Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 week ago
My gaming PC is on Win 11 because it’s recent and I’m lazy and it’s convenient. My laptop runs Win 10 so it’ll be Linux I guess. Not really looking forward to finding a distro and reinstalling and whatnot but what can you do. It’s been a good few years since I last had a Linux box so I’m pretty rusty and not up to date on the recent best distros.
Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
What distro did you use before?
Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 week ago
I used to use UbuntuStudio back when I was playing around with music recording and production ages ago because it ran the real-time kernel which was important for JACK I think. Last time though was just Mint.
MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 1 week ago
My plan is to use my Linux box as my main PC with Steam installed so that I can remote play from my Windows gaming PC since not all titles natively work on Linux for me. That way, the only activity being performed on my Windows machine is gaming and everything else will live in Linux Mint
glog78@digitalcourage.social 1 week ago
@MattTheProgrammer @The_Picard_Maneuver
Since you wanna Game using network anyway did you ever thought of Cloud Gaming (aka Geforce Now) ? That way you don't have a "unsecure" device in your network. From a security standpoint even an device only used for gaming is a security risk ;)
MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 1 week ago
That would require me to abandon half of my Steam library and pay an additional cost for games I already can play. My device is on Windows 11 so I am not worried about security updates, more so the Recall “feature” and AI training.
IceFoxX@lemm.ee 1 week ago
FCK nvidia
OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
Upgrade tool says my hardware isn’t supported, seems like I can enable TPM on my motherboard but it doesn’t work right for some reason I think I managed to install Windows 10 without secure boot or something, not sure if those two are even related. I was thinking maybe I’d have to reinstall windows 10 with those modules enabled in order to upgrade to windows 11… Has anyone else encountered something similar?
deepfuckingdumb@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Those two are related. Windows 11 requires both UEFI (secure boot) and TPM. Microsoft has a tool for converting a legacy install to UEFI. (backup your data beforehand as always)
OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
Wow, looks like exactly what I need! I’ll give it a try, thanks!
JAWNEHBOY@reddthat.com 1 week ago
Yeah, said I had to buy a tpm module for my mobo to upgrade to win11. My steam deck works so well running arch based Linux I searched “gaming arch Linux” in DuckDuckGo and installed CachyOS. Easier and cleaner than installing windows 10 when I built my PC and the constant updates are awesome (they also offer long term support LTS builds). Highly recommend, I have an Nvidia 2070 Super and CachyOS has been a great upgrade from Windows 10.
Jeffool@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Considering I’m unemployed and job hunting, and Windows says I can’t upgrade my current (old) PC, and I regularly play Warzone with friends? No, probably not any time soon.
Maybe if I get a job with a six digit salary in a city with a reasonable cost of living (or remote) so I can jump out of debt before 6 months? But I’m not holding my breath.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
How to give it a go:
- Get a 256GB SSD and install it on your computer alongside the existing drives.
- Install a gaming-oriented Linux distro such as Pop!OS, Bazzite, SteamOS or similar, on that drive (don’t let it touch any other drive - those things generally have an install mode were you just tell it “install in this drive” which will ignore all other drives)
- Unless your machine is 10 years old or older, during boot you can press a key (generally F8) and the BIOS will pop-up a boot menu that lets you choose which OS you want start booting (do it again at a later date if you want to change it back). If your machine is old you might actually have to go into the BIOS and change the boot EFI (or if even older, boot drive) there.
- Use launchers such as Steam and a Lutris since they come with per-game install scripts that make sure Proton/Wine is properly configured, so that for most game you don’t have to do any tweaking at all for them to run - it’s just install and launch.
- If it all works fine and you’re satisfied with it, get a bigger SSD and install it alongside the rest. Make one big partition in it and mount you home directory there (at this point you will have to go down to the CLI to copy over your home directory). You’ll need this drive because of all the space you’ll be using for games (both Steam and Lutris will put them under your home directory) especially modern ones.
As long as you give a dedicated drive to Linux and (if on an old machine before EFI) do not let it install a boot sector anywhere else but that drive, the risk exposure is limited to having spent 20 or 30 bucks on a 256GB SSD and then it turns out Linux is still not good enough for you.
When NOT to do it:
- If you don’t know what a BIOS is or that you can press a key to get into it.
- If you don’t know how to install a new drive on your machine (or even what kind of drive format it takes) and don’t have somebody who can do it for you.
- If you don’t actually have the free slot for the new drive (for example, notebooks generally only have 2 slots, sometimes only 1).
YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Thank you I’m saving this whole thread
andybytes@programming.dev 1 week ago
Windows is a weapons contractor that is entangled in the domestic markets. Linux is not. Windows is spyware and anti consumer. It is time to at least be familar with Linux. Try it on a old laptop or something. Linux is free.
flemtone@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Steam OS, Batocera, Bazzite, Linux Mint… so many great distros for gaming alone.
ulterno@programming.dev 1 week ago
Upgrade
to Linux
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 1 week ago
How do I even get started? Do I just install Mint and figure it out from there? Linux seems so complicated but it’s been a decade since I last tried. Nowadays, I feel old and this seems like it needs too much research
Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Linux is no more complicated than Windows, we just know what we know.
Start by trying one of the big names like Ubuntu or Fedora.
There’s not exactly better distros for gaming, it’s just about what’s preinstalled, that’s why Bazzite exists.
A good idea is to install something like VirtualBox on your Windows machine and test out some diatros to learn your way around them.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 week ago
LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I love linux too, but linux is absolutely more complicated for a typical computer user
dustyData@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Whatever you do. Don’t dualboot. It gives a wrong impression of what Linux is, and complexity is not inherently a part of it. Try Mint as a live USB OS first. That means the OS runs from a USB thumb drive. This will allow you to dip your toes before you dive in. Just like dipping toes, it’s a no-compromise way of testing, but if you choose to install you already have 90% of what you need.
WasteWizard@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Also it’s soooo easy for someone not very knowledgeable to misconfigure the boot loader. Don’t touch boot loaders unless you’re okay with potentially losing access to both your original OS and the new Linux install. You’d then have to either learn on the go and repair it yourself, or beg/pay someone else to repair it.
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 week ago
Mint
I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.
I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.
The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).
How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.
Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.
Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.
I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.
thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
I have to disagree here. I find using Cinnamon is very close to using windows. Everything hardware wise pretty much runs out of the box on all desktops and laptops I have installed it on. Have been using it for years. The one thing I can’t comment on is hdpi. I never owned a high enough resolution screen to have problems with scaling I guess, although I do have a three monitor setup. Immutability might be nice, but I think it’s also personal preference. Windows doesn’t have it so it might be a strange feature to new users coming from Windows.
Kage@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
I would recommend to try linux first by dualbooting. Try Ubuntu, Fedora, Linux MINT and KDE Neon (i really like it because it has a Windowsy feel). You can see how those distros look here: distrosea.com
I personally dont like the stock ubuntu, was really suprised by fedora.
lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Can second, Ubuntu sucks (but they did a lot of formative work in getting desktop Linux going), Fedora is great
MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Honestly, one of the great uses for gen ai is “write me a script to diagnose this problem” and then pass the output back with “write me a script to fix it”
I don’t have the bandwidth in my life to diagnose and tinker for fun, and it’s really made a bunch of big annoying things easy.
I found KDE way more intuitive than gnome, even though I was last on a Mac before the switch. Perhaps pick a KDE distro.
Also maybe list here if you have any deal-breaker apps or workflows to the folks can say if it’s worth your effort.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I run Fedora KDE now, but I’m going to keep my Windows 10 install on Windows 10.
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 week ago
How are you finding it?
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 week ago
No complaints about Fedora KDE specifically. I’ve had it on my spare laptop since version 30 or so. Desktop is on 41 now. The only “issues” I’ve had running this full-time is lack of support for Fidelity Active Trader Pro (which kinda sucks anyway), I haven’t been able to make my bluetooth shipping label printer work yet, and I haven’t gotten my Logi MX Keys / Master S mouse working as it works in Logi Options (on windows or mac) to switch over to my work mac as intended. Otherwise, I prefer it to other distros I’ve used.
SolidShake@lemmy.world 1 week ago
yeah i need star citizen, ableton, fl studio, premier, photoshop and more before i can dedicate a jump to linux
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
don’t forget that LTSC is also a solution
SolidShake@lemmy.world 1 week ago
There’s nothing wrong with windows 11 imo