My (perfectly good) PC isn’t Win 11 compatible, so I can’t upgrade from 10. I’ve got Linux running on an old laptop so I’m thinking of installing it on my PC. Buuut a few years back I moved from Google Drive to OneDrive and so now I’m looking at Proton Drive instead. It’s all a big time soak, sigh. But worth it? I guess… The timing isn’t great either - I’ve got an exam in October that I need to study hard for and do practical prep as well, plus I have travel plans. It’s all a bit much. I’m too old to be this busy!
6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Someone8765210932@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I technically have a Win10+Linux dual boot setup right now, but I haven’t used the Linux install in forever, and I think it’s broken. So I’ll probably fix this and then use Linux when possible and continue using the unsupported win10 for everything that needs windows.
I remember people mentioning the win10 LTCS version with 10 years support, but I’m not going to buy anything from them. Maybe I’ll use it unactived if needed.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Cough MassGavel Activation Scripts Cough
boonhet@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Linux for gaming and most other use cases, Windows for the one proprietary application I use. Although I suppose I might go IoT LTSC.
JakobFel@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
Switching to Linux with no intentions of moving back. I’m fed up with MS. I’m not settled on which distro (and I don’t want to distro hop on my main machine) but I know for sure that I’m switching.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I’m not settled on which distro
I distro hop a lot, myself, but I always hear nice things about Linux Mint. (And last time I used Mint, I had no complaints.)
JakobFel@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
I love trying other distros but I can’t afford to regularly be down a few days to a week to restore backups, which is why I want my main system to stick with a distro long-term. Mint is definitely one of my strongest considerations for sure.
Mio@feddit.nu 3 weeks ago
I am on Fedora. But i still have Windows dual boot left. But I dont use Windows 10 that often - I don’t see the need. I just have it as a backup OS. I have free enough free diskspace on my SSD so currently not doing anything.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
But I dont use Windows 10 that often - I don’t see the need. I just have it as a backup OS. I have free enough diskspace on my SSD so currently not doing anything.
I did exactly that for many years. And then one day I had something that called for booting to a separate OS, so…
my solution
Trusting Windows with whatever it was still made me nervous, and I crammed an Ubuntu Live USB into a USB port and booted to that.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
dbkblk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
20 years for me (even thought I used Windows for a year in there).
JakobFel@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
There’s also the issue of people who regularly play games with kernel AC, particularly with studios who intentionally refuse Linux support.
dbkblk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, but honestly, I find that games enforcing incompatible AC are often poorly developed games. The latest that disappointed me was EA WRC. It was quite good, but the gameplay was less interesting that Dirt Rally 2, for exemple, and since they enforced AC, they also started to deploy DLC, and destroy the game. The lesson was to never ever buy something from Electronic Arts (the last time was more than 10 years ago for me). And kernel level anti-cheat is NO GO on my computer. It doesn’t matter if the game is awesome or not, I disagree with the fact that a game company has root access on my computer just for entertainement.
GluWu@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Just waiting for daddy gabon to release steamos. If not I swear I’m going to just use the most windowsxp distro available. I thought I was being simple by going with mint and KDE. Dare me.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You installed KDE on Mint? Why not just install Debian with KDE?
Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No, I use windows 11 and it works great.
histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
lol
Apeman42@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Can anyone recommend a distro (and desktop environment?) that’s going to be almost the same as desktop mode on the Steam deck? I’m getting more comfortable in that than I expected to be in any Linux, and to my surprise and delight I haven’t had to delve into the command line at all yet.
offspec@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The steam deck uses KDE Plasma 5 as its desktop environment, so anything that uses that should feel very similar. I recommend bazzite if familiarity is something that would appeal to you.
daggermoon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The most recent update ships Plasma 6 I believe.
Mogofwin@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
+1 for Bazzite. It has just enough guard rails to keep you from (easily) making your system unusable while still providing more freedom than windows. Install is cake. Literally clear a drive or partition for your OS and storage, download it, and you’re off to the races. just make sure to always check your build against protondb For games to see if there are any special run commands to put into steam, and you will be golden.
pathief@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The desktop environment is called KDE Plasma. Every distribution with KDE will look and feel very similar.
Fedora is a good and safe bet for a distribution.
Minnels@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Installed bazzite today. Was easier than installing windows.
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Linux is the way
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Went to Linux a couple months ago, its freaking awesome, you’ll never look back. And it is way easier to use than people make it out to be. Also my PC has never been faster thanks to having zero bloat.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I run Fedora KDE now, but I’m going to keep my Windows 10 install on Windows 10.
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How are you finding it?
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No complaints about Fedora KDE specifically. I’ve had it on my spare laptop since version 30 or so. Desktop is on 41 now. The only “issues” I’ve had running this full-time is lack of support for Fidelity Active Trader Pro (which kinda sucks anyway), I haven’t been able to make my bluetooth shipping label printer work yet, and I haven’t gotten my Logi MX Keys / Master S mouse working as it works in Logi Options (on windows or mac) to switch over to my work mac as intended. Otherwise, I prefer it to other distros I’ve used.
AvailableFill74@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Linux has some problems that I just can never find answers for.
#1. Can’t do 4k 340hz on my display port 1.4 cable. Even though I can on windows and Mac. In Linux the option is there with the nvidia driver, but the screen goes black anytime I try to use it. No solution.
#2. Ubiconnect won’t work with Ann 1800 even though it’s good on proton.db and others are reporting it works great, I was never ever able to get it working or find reliable steps to get it working.
It’s a needle in a haystack trying to find fixes for things like this. Linux offers a lot, but still doesn’t offer the most important thing ease of fixing problems quickly so you can just do what you want to do.
Run a game and work at the native resolution.
Sabata11792@ani.social 3 weeks ago
#1. Can’t do 4k 340hz on my display port 1.4 cable. Even though I can on windows and Mac. In Linux the option is there with the nvidia driver, but the screen goes black anytime I try to use it. No solution.
I had a similar issue on my 1080ti, I fixed it by setting Adaptive Sync to Never in my display settings.
TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
To point 1.: WTF?
SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Yea thats how my spouses laptop ended up with fedora and our main/gaming PC ended up with Nobara. For some reason certain distros and certain configurations do not go well with each other.
DimFisher@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Does it really matter? I have xemu (xbox emulator), retroarch for anything else, and PSX2 to be sure on Lubuntu, combine together how many games all those have and you just don’t need steam
Worstdriver@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I have no plans to either update to win11 or change back to chanting magic spells at my computer to get it to work (Ubuntu, many years ago).
My computer works and does everything I want it to. Basic internet security and reasonable precautions are sufficient for a low level user like me to stay safe.
ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
The Linux experience has changed quite a lot over the years. You’re unlikely to have trouble getting your computer to work with it now.
Worstdriver@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Possibly/Probably but as I said. Right now win 10 runs all my productivity, gaming and streaming software such as OBS and Veadotube.
They run and run well. I have literally no incentive to switch to either a Linux distro or win11. If that changes, then I’ll consider changing my OS, but until then…why would anyone?
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just upgrade yall are so dramatic for no reason at all. If 11 is that bad just switch to Linux.
HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
People might get a little emotional about it but I bounce between Linux Mint, windows 10, and windows 11 and honestly I totally agree that windows 11 is trash. When my windows 10 computer reaches it’s limit, I might try to figure out how to run games on Linux/proton or whatever that is.
darthelmet@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I got a new PC recently so unfortunately I am now on Windows 11. I’ve been wanting to make the swap to Linux but I can’t really make a clean break because at least some of the games I play a lot won’t work on Linux. I do think I’m gonna try to set up another hard drive with Linux on it to try to slowly start learning it and ideally move over anything that I can over there eventually and just keep the windows drive for those few games.
Does anyone have any recommendations related to that? Distro for gaming/ease of use? What’s the best option for setting up the dual boot? Anything I wouldn’t have thought of that’s relevant?
racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Since your computer is running Windows 11 already, I would recommend you look for a Linux distro without considering if it’s gaming-friendly. Linux is great for certain productivity tasks.
For dualbooting, most official Linux installation guides offer detailed steps for that. Grub (the boot management program) is well tested and widely used.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just in case you are thinking this like I used to, don’t go by “unplayable on steam deck” to determine what games you won’t be able to play on a Linux desktop. While those games include incompatible with Linux games, they also include ones that the deck hardware can’t handle at a decent framerate but otherwise play fine on Linux.
darthelmet@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh I was looking at system requirements on the store page. Is that accurate?
Kurallier@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
If you’re a tech savvy person then I’d recomend Arch, but if you’d prefer a more streamlined approach then Baazite, PopOs, and Mint are all good starting points. As for dual booting, no matter which distro of linux you use you’ll use something called GRUB. The tl;dr of grub is that it’ll let you select which operating system you want to boot into when you boot up your pc
Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
What games are they?
One of the reasons i am sticking with Arch is because steamdeck os is build on it, whats good enough to game for valve is good enough for me.
darthelmet@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There’s a spattering of steam games that don’t list Linux support. Probably the ones I play the most are Deep Rock Galactic and Last Epoch. Outside of Steam I play TFT a lot, which doesn’t work on Linux since they added the anti-cheat software.
argarath@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I was running mint, but had to go back to windows because of a hardware bug I’m still trying to fix where my PC will randomly not wake up from sleep and that results in corrupted drives, which windows can fix with it’s automated repair at boot, but Linux has done commands that I need to run and if I fuck it up it would fuck my computer up even more, so until I can fix the hardware bug I’m stuck on windows, but by fuck do I hate it. I prefer Linux so much more over windows, so much more convenient, efficient, personalizable and it actually works in many places where windows simply doesn’t even with a lot of fiddling around in settings and shit
TheKracken@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Do you have a swap partition? Is it the correct size? Also I think you can do a drive check on boot by changing an option in fstab.
argarath@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve even taken out the drive that I had Linux installed, windows still has the issue, it started barely happening a year or so ago but recently it’s gotten much much worse and it happens in waves(?) where it’ll not have any issues for several days and then one day it will fail to wake up every time it goes to sleep, except when I’m testing. I recall testing the drive check on both Linux and windows, but both came out clean.
My bf and I have narrowed it down to probably being the power supply (last year there were a bunch of power outages after a historical flood here in southern Brazil) but the ram is also unstable at timings that it used to run perfectly fine, but the ram test came out clean so it’s a big mess of possibilities RN. I’m just waiting for Monday to be able to buy a new power supply and a UPS to test, but even then we’re still unsure if this will truly fix it or if I’ll need to get a new motherboard.
CatZoomies@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Already upgraded to Linux Mint - lemmy.world/post/24365609
It’s been going great! Everything works as I expected. I now have full confidence that I will never switch back to Windows. It really does feel liberating having an OS that doesn’t track me.
Wiz@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
I’m planning on it.
I tried a rest run on an old laptop I had, and it runs 95% flawlessly. My biggest issue is my new Brother printer that I’m trying to install connected to Wi-Fi. The system sems to know it’s there, but then doesn’t seem to install the drivers. My Android phone prints there just fine.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 3 weeks ago
I assume you tried adding a new printer through KDE? There’s usually no driver needed if all you need to do is simply print/scan.
Does it fail with both options?
Wiz@midwest.social 4 days ago
I thank you sincerely for getting back to me on this. I wanted to let you know I just figured it out! I thought I’d document it for the next person to come along.
I had tried all of the options in that screenshot, and none seemed to work.
Investigating further, it was a Brother printer, so I needed to download special drivers: support.brother.com/g/b/productsearch.aspx?c=us&l…
Then, arcane magic needed to be performed on the command line: support.brother.com/g/b/downloadhowto.aspx?c=us&l…
I had done all that, but I still had a problem. Digging through the script output, apparently I had a bad “libsane” installed with apt. Also, to add to the problems, apt doesn’t recognize the string “libsane” now. We are to use its new name “libsane1” now in apt! So, I tried to reinstall and then reinstall the brother printer drivers, to no avail. Eventually, I had to completely uninstall libsane, and then reinstall it. And everything magically worked.
It’s so easy! 🤨
One thing to be ready to have is the IP number of the printer, which I was able to get in the WiFi options of the printer.
Whew! Test page printed on my test machine! I feel like this was my last major hurdle before adopting Linux on other machines.
Again, thanks for responding!
BingBong@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Bought my wife a framework laptop, slapped fedora on it and have been helping her make the switch. So far so good other than Obsidian not working the same as OneNote.
naticus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How’ve you/her liked the Framework? Which one did you get? I’ve been considering one for months but I don’t have a huge need but it’d be nice to have a solid laptop rather than my Chromebook that I’m running Arch on when I’m on my couch.
BingBong@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Framework 13 DIY edition. I’ve been quite happy so far and so has she. Configuring it was trivial and the one issue I ran into (setting up backups) was due to my not being familiar with fedora and KDE. Build quality is good, the bezel was the only part that gave me pause. She doesn’t use it a ton so it’s likely any minor nagging quirks will take a while to tease out.
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 weeks ago
I recommend trying out zim, I love it!
njm1314@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well my PC can’t do windows 11, and upgrading is now impossible thanks to a certain someone. So yeah…
Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
My 15 year old desktop also “couldn’t do windows 11”, but you can bypass whatever bullshit limitations Microsoft puts on the installation process. That computer has been running 11 for several years now without any issues at all. Rock solid.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I had read that Steam on WINE is pretty stable. Is it not?
theneverfox@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Steam runs natively and uses proton for game compatibility, similar idea to wine but it’s geared for games
It’s pretty good. Most games will run, sometimes with a little jiggling to get it to work, although performance isn’t quite as good (some games are particularly rough)
I’m technically dual booting, but I haven’t launched Windows in almost a year, and there’s only been a handful of games I passed on primarily because of support
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I have a small laptop that I’m testing this stuff out on before I put together a new computer from parts I ordered before the tariffs took effect.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Valve made a compatibility layer for the Steam Deck and Linux called Proton. It uses a lot of technologies, including WINE, dxvk, and more to make Windows games run well on Linux. It basically takes Windows API calls and translates them to Linux with little to no performance penalty.
Steam also has native builds for Windows, macOS, ChromeOS, and Linux how, so you can just install it. Most Linux distros have Steam right in their software manager now.
Typically, unless the game has blocked Linux with something like kernel-level anticheat, it’ll “just work” on Linux now. There is a community database called ProtonDB that has a list of games and how well they do or don’t work.
Hope this helps and feel free to ask any questions.
rocky1138@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’m a Linux user who had Windows 11 on one computer for VR but once I saw Microsoft’s CEO at Trump’s inauguration I removed that last install, deleted my Meta accounts, and put my Quest 3 in a box.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If you want to run VR on Linux with your Quest headset, WiVRn works absolutely flawlessly. Been running VR with my Quest 2 for a while with it.
Not sure if jailbreaks exist for the Quest 3, but I’ve considered jailbreaking my Quest 2 in order to run it without a Meta account.
rocky1138@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Thanks for this. All efforts are dead in the water until I can use it without Meta. Until then it stays in the box. Appreciate the info thought though, cheers.
yourNewFavouriteUser@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
linux, either endeavor or nobara
73CC@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Never again, bye Microsoft Windows 😁 Hi GNU/Linux my new friend.
garretble@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My Windows 10 PC’s only function at this point is to play FFXIV in my living room, so I’m not super worried about viruses or anything.
But maybe eventually I’ll switch to Linux on that box and do that weird set-up to get FFXIV running there.
steve@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Why is Bill Gates in the picture? lol
danciestlobster@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I would love some advice, personally. How big of an issue is this really? Like…do I really have to care if there aren’t system updates anymore? How big of a security risk is it actually?
Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
In the short-term (0-6mo, maybe less): nothing really changes.
Medium-term (maybe up to a year or two): you’re looking at real potential to get infected with --who-knows-what–. Hard to say how long it would take or how widespread it would be.
Longer term: massive, massive security hole. Microsoft has probably even patched a few major things by now, but there will always be more
VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well the thing is, we don’t know. Maybe 10 is patched so well that no one is hanging onto a major exploit just waiting for EOL. Or so well that no new major exploits are found (extremely unlikely). Then so long as you’re just gaming or watching YouTube it doesn’t really matter.
But someone could be holding onto one or someone could stumble into one. And all it takes is one.
isaaclw@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I wonder if I could jail it from the rest of my network.
The problem I guess is if I dual boot, I wont feel like the data on linux is safe, and Id need to ensure I set up and take down the jail while booting windows…
I guess I should just fix the linux issues that make my gaming experience less fun. Maybe I need a fancier graphics card.
Thadrax@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sooner or later the issue will be that some software probably won’t be available any more for your system.
beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This is a minor issue compared to the security risks. See the other comment in this thread for a good explanation.