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These dames wanting inclusivity

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  • skvlp@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What is the difference between “people with vaginas” and “people with vaginas of the feminine species”? And what is the “feminine species”? Is it some (unspecified?) species where every specimen is of the feminine gender?

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    • Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He calls them the “female species” because the can’t (won’t) successfully breed with his own.

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    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      People with vaginas include some trans men. The idiot in OP is not totally wrong. People with vaginas are females. But what he means is (cis) women.

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      • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Also trans women can have vaginas, and it is possible to be born with a vagina but no (functioning) uterus.

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      • DillyDaily@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The way the OP phrases it rules out trans men who have vaginas, trans women who have vaginas, and a bunch of cis women who’ve had certain pelvic traumas or cancers and therefore don’t have vaginas.

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    • imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      like how all cats are girls and all dogs are boys?

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  • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The wimwams

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    • MutilationWave@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      A guy walks into a psychiatrist’s office. He says:

      “I’m a teepee, I’m a wigwam, I’m a teepee, I’m a wigwam, I’m a teepee, I’m a wigwam!”

      The doctor says, “Calm down man, you’re two tents.”

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  • Neon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So much cultural imperialism in here.

    Once US-Americans decide how they want a word used, they will harrass and cyber-bully everyone into using it the same way / using the same word

    Boys, you need to realize that english isn’t “your” language. You don’t get to decide how others speak it.

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    • frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s everyone’s language, everyone can bully each other over it. The Brits added u to a bunch of words just to fuck with us…and then misspelled tire. Just last week heard an upper class indian with more British roots give a more Americanized indian man shit for spelling it tire rather than tyre, with zero knowledge of the history.

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      • Neon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        My brother in christ, you do realize the british spelling is the original, right?

        The reason you spell it differently was a conscious decision of your revolutionaries to differentiate themselves from the brits

        You used the same spelling before your independence, you know that, right?

        And how about “noone can bully” instead of “everyone can bully”?

        Just throwing tht in the room here.

        I won’t bully you for writing “recognise” just to assert your independence, you let us be us and everyone is happy, is tht a Deal?

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  • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Broads.

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  • Toneswirly@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I call em Snatchers

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    • Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Is the cute name “beaver” still used?

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      • nepenthes@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Are Beavers really cute? The teeth of these large water rodents are orange because they are full of iron, these teeth never stop growing.

        But if you are being serious, women don’t really like being reduced to names that refer to their pudendum. It is objectifying.

        Source: Canadian woman.

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  • HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Holy shit, R*ddit denouncing misogony

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    • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not with Jailbait mod Spez at the helm.

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      • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s important to note that jailbait featured girls who were intentionally posed/looked much younger than bordering 17. I think people might try to justify it/imagine it as older looking teenagers, it was not.

        The mods/power users also traded CSAM, and comment sections were used for trading the real thing. There may have been official rules against it, but these communities had codes.

        There was also violentacrez little empire. I don’t understand what purpose a community like “picsofdeadkids” has. I think even if you are a free speech absolutist you can question what obligation Reddit had to host such content.

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  • son_named_bort@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wo-men? Well, I’ve heard of men, but this sounds like a foreign language to me.

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  • M1nds3nd@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Whatever happened to “femoid”? I know I read that one somewhere.

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    • Donkter@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The future is femoid

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  • DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Girl, woman

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    • blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Girl can absolutely be interpreted as condescending if you’re talking to/about an adult

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      • frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Hey girl calm down why are you getting so hysterical?

        Did I man correctly? 😇

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  • infinite_ass@leminal.space ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I like “broads” mself.

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  • hypertown@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Girl?

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    • 5wim@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Little princess?

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      • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Adorable little slut? 😡

        My adorable little slut? 🥺

        (it’s me, I’m the adorable slut)

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      • Grail@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Princess is a nasty thing to call a woman. medium.com/…/princesses-are-nsfw-f9e6c3d4532d

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    • carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      that can still be infantilizing for an adult woman

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  • OceanSoap@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Trans women want to be referred to as just women, and biological women don’t want to be referred to as Cis women, so other than female, what is there?

    I agree that I get the ick from female when referred to by certain men, but at this point, I don’t see another option.

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    • Soleos@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The other option is “women”

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      • OceanSoap@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Works for most conversations, I agree

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    • bobthened@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not wanting to be referred to as cis, is just as ridiculous as not wanting to be referred to as straight. It just means “not trans”. The women who don’t want to be referred to as cis are TERFs, so their opinions are irrelevant.

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      • OceanSoap@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is it just as ridiculous as not wanting to be referred to as trans? Why label what something is not rather than what something is?

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    • x0x7@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The problem is female and women aren’t grammatically equivalent, so you can’t just drop one in place of the other anytime you want. It bugs me when people say woman president. Imagine electing a man president. The correct word in that case is male. I don’t care about anyone’s politics. I’m just getting tired of gimpish language.

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      • Linedotdatdot@lemmynsfw.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I find your assertion that anything resembling “thinking” may occur at any point with such people either very generous or quite naive 😋

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    • lunarul@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      /s?

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      • mycelium_underground@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I sure hope so

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  • tonytins@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My sides. xD

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  • oo1@lemmings.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ‘Extra-chromo-sapiens’.

    The other ones are ‘whiny-chromo-sapiens’.

    ‘Arsehole’ is a good cross gender term for any humans of known or unknown sex.

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  • normalexit@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I love that this dumb dumb made a post on reddit. There are search engines, large language models, and the good ole thesaurus to find words that are synonyms. Figure. It. Out.

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  • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Except “woman” doesn’t mean “female person” anymore, it means “anyone who identifies as a woman” because attaching any common noun at all for people based on sex rather than gender would be accused of transphobia.

    It’s kind of like if someone asked what the term for the sexual orientation of someone who is interested in partners they could hypothetically reproduce with is, the answer is there isn’t one and suggesting there should be will get called transphobic.

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    • Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Is it hypothetical because no one has wanted to reproduce with you for some elusive reason?

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    • DillyDaily@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      partners they could hypothetically reproduce with

      “fertile women”

      “women capable of pregnancy”

      Outdated, slight red flag option: “gynephile”

      Or you could even try “I find women attractive and would love to have kids with the woman I love one day”

      There, language isn’t that hard.

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      • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re actually demonstrating my point - I said “a common noun” for one and “a term” for the other. The whole point is that any “acceptable” language for those notions (a person of the sort who possesses female genitals and potentially has ova that she could hypothetically carry to term and identifies as a woman and a person attracted to the sort of person they might hypothetically be able to reproduce with) has to have at the very minimum an adjective if not an entire phrase attached to it.

        For example, imagine someone tried to re-popularize the old English words to refer to cis folks, using wifmen for cis women in this example. That would immediately be deemed transphobic, specifically because it’s a common noun to refer specifically to cis women and not a shared category you have to use an adjective or phrase to differentiate from.

        Same thing applies to orientation - we have a lot of words for sexual orientations. But a word for a person who is attracted to cis people of a given sex relative to one’s own is unacceptable - the very idea that there could be a term for it is transphobic. Despite sexual attraction being one of those rare cases where what genitals you have and whether or not they’re the original equipment is actually relevant.

        Also wouldn’t “gynephile” meaning one who has an attraction to women still not be precise enough, since women includes trans women by definition, at least the feminine ones?

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    • Pacattack57@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You thought you ate with this comment 😂

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    • 211@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do you often find yourself in discussions where the trans-inclusivity/exclusivity of the term it is important to know?

      Because whenever I use “men, guys” or any other such term, whether it includes trans people doesn’t even cross my mind. Like the discussions if we should welcome “guy friends” at our girls’ game and gossip nights, or if I’m being too naive around “men”. Talking about “males” like an alien species would be weird and mildly offensive. (Mildly because the Finnish word “uros” can imply admiration for a man’s masculinity.)

      If you wanted a term for potential partners you could possibly reproduce with, none of the “female, woman, male, man” terms by itself would do, because (even personally known) infertility for various reasons exists.

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    • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just say what you mean. Intersex and trans people exist. For example, “menstruator” or “people who menstruate” if you’re talking about periods. Not all women menstruate, not everyone who menstruates is a woman, and hell, there are plenty of people who have uteruses but don’t menstruate. It’s way clearer and inclusive.

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      • 211@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Somehow this stuck with me, and while you are correct, in any conversation about menses I’d probably want to include the people who eg. use contraceptive methods that temporarily stop them, and people whose periods are so irregular they simply don’t know if the next one is coming or not (my group). Personally I’d also want to include and hear from people who used to menstruate but no longer do, or who are likely to start soon.

        In statistics afaik they tend to use “women of fertile age”, which makes sense for those purposes, to limit it to one clear-cut group for clarity. In gynecology for individual patients I don’t think any term is used, just a list of properties (“G0P0 menarche 12 cycle 28 duration 5 normal flow, last period 1.1.2025”) and then you move on to the issue.

        And that’s for periods, a relatively clear-cut thing. Then you get to “people who had the female/male experience when growing up”, or “people who perform the traditionally female/male role in a relationship” or the like.

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    • Shapillon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So that hypothetic person is turned off by learning someone is infertile for any reason?

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      • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Let’s say yes, since we’re in a hypothetical. Breeding fetish, perhaps? Maybe just someone who’s specifically looking for a long term relationship leading into children?

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  • mEEGal@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “It’s Ma’am”

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  • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “seat-pee-ers”?

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  • Zoomboingding@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I call them flighty broads

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  • fender_symphonic584@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What is a woman?

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    • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Someone who covers her drink when you enter the room

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    • frostysauce@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Try taking to one and find out.

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