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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

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  • ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That is probably a slam dunk (minor) discrimination lawsuit. Your circumstances of birth, including the date, are not something you can be judged for.

    Follow up with your ID or Birth certificate and ask “Excuse me?”

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    • blaine@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      @ocassionallyaduck

      @The_Picard_Maneuver

      Not true in the US. They could ban anyone born in the month of April if they wanted to.

      Applicants, employees and former employees are ONLY protected from employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or gender identity), national origin, age (40 or older), disability and genetic information (including family medical history).

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      • flyingjake@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I wonder if an argument could be made that birthdate is a component of your genetic information including family medical history? It is also potentially age discrimination?

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      • GlitterInfection@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        At the moment you have 69 upvotes, so I can’t, in good conscience, upvote you. But you’re right.

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      • Chev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nobody said that they are from the US.

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    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It wouldn’t get anywhere in the US. Age is the closest protected class, but only applies to over 40 in the US. Discrimination based on month and day of birth isn’t actually illegal.

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      • Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I honestly think there’s a gray area here and it’s worth talking to a lawyer if anything. There are certainly some protections for peoples under 40. Being denied a promotion because you’re “too young” is certainly a protection. The catch is you have to prove it.

        This case is easy to prove though if there are any laws over this.

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      • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Whelp, time for arson then. Sorry, it’s the rules.

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      • pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What about star sign? That’s got to be illegal, and it’s p close to this

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    • Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Just set your profile to @ not US system and your birthday will be 20/4 instead!

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    • AlfredEinstein@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Classic age discrimination.

      Make sure to find a lawyer who is 69 years old and whose license plate is LOL80085.

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  • Eximius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They should not censor the company name.

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    • Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But then you might realize it’s fake.

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      • Custoslibera@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What do you mean ‘Company Business Incorporated Pty Ltd.’ Isn’t a legitimate employer?

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      • GroundedGator@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Birthday on LinkedIn is a bit outlandish as age discrimination laws are fairly standard. I think it is more likely that they called it their birthday on some immature post, which may mean that the applicant is a poor cultural fit.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Nobody was born on 4/20 except Hitler. We do not wish to hire Hitler at this time.”

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    • eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      at this time

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      • Guntrigger@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Times they are a changin’

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    • c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “However, the skillset has been retained in our documentation for future potential expansion into potential expansion.”

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      • Raxiel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The Sudetenland branch is hiring.

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      • JTheDoc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “Your skills and qualities tell us you may be over qualified for the position. We would like to offer you a role in management instead.”

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well that’s your loss I hear he’s great at PR

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  • GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This can’t be real. There are so many red flags this is fake. 1) Everything is censored. 2) GIS lookup only shows reddit and linkedin. The linkedin post is just as vague “learned a colleague received this!” 3) It’s too good to be true. it plays on current fears. 4) It’s just so dumb.

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    • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      1. Of course everything is censored, there is no reason to share personal info like that.

      2. I don’t know what Geographical Information Systems have to do with this post, are you referring to a reverse image search like google or tineye or something? What were you expecting to find? The original email with all of the aforementioned personal info? Are you surprised content could be posted to Reddit before anywhere else?

      3. Current fears are justified.

      4. Poe’s Law tells me not to assume anything is satirical because there will always be people that stupid or greedy.

      And yeah, it could be fake, 100%, but your arguments were really dumb.

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      • rallatsc@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        GIS might be Google Image Search in this case, though I haven’t seen it abbreviated like that before.

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    • son_named_bort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
      1. Companies usually don’t send out detailed rejection letters like this. They’re usually like “after reviewing your credentials we decided to go with another candidate” or something vague like that.
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    • Voyajer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      #1 is in no way a red flag, don’t put other’s personally identifying information on the Internet.

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      • GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Disagree. If this was true, terrible companies should be named and shamed.

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    • orphiebaby@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I fucking hate people like you. “Everything on Reddit/Lemmy is fake and gay. Here’s my evidence.” All evidence easily has an explanation, most of it laughably so. What do idiots who claim everything is fake get out of it? To troll the OP? Or do you just want to spread your misery?

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What always ticks me off beyond reason in mails like these is the “we genuinely appreciate your time and effort in…”

    Fuck. You. With. An. Umbrella.

    You don’t appreciate shit, you’re full of shit, yet you’re too shit to even just say what you really want to say: fuck you, we don’t give a damn. Because being actually honest might also be bad and cost money.

    Companies like there are the worse and should all burn in hell

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    • glimse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thank you for the opportunity!

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      • Jarix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I appreciate the time and effort it took to reply

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    • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d rather get a rejection email than eternally wondering why an AI filtered you put

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      • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s not the email that bugs me, it’s the fake politeness and language like “but we care! We really do!”

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  • Karlos_Cantana@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Glad that won't happen to me. I was born on January 6th.

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Now I’m imagining someone legitimately putting their Jan6 involvement on a resume.

      Window Structural Integrity Tester (Jan 6th, 2021): Responsibilities included - unconventional team-building activities, conditioning, navigating unfamiliar territory, and breaking down barriers.

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      • Poggervania@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nah, it’d probably be more like:

        Security Field Tester (Jan 6, 2021): Part of a group that organized a large-scale “peaceful march” in order to thoroughly check security protocols for the Capitol building. Duties included attempts at theft to see if we’d be stopped, testing window durability by attempting to break them, engaging physically with security staff in riot gear to test security training, and shouting terroristic threats in order to see how secure government protocols were in the event of a riot at a governmental building.

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  • Sunfoil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is this not completely illegal? Dunno about the USA, in the UK age is a protected characteristic and you would be fucked for trying this. If it’s real ofc.

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    • PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Only over 40, and this isn’t age it’s their birthday.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Hell, it’s the do United States “Home of the free™”, where you can sue for anything.

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      • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s age modulo!

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  • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You should have left in the company name. Shame them publicly.

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  • jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is most likely fake.

    If this was automated, a company automating rejection emails would never write the reason for rejection. It would be a vague excuse like “not a good fit for the role”.

    If this was not automated, then no recruiter would be this stupid.

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  • regdog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    On the one hand this is a bad that this happened to you, because the reasoning is completely idiotic.

    On the other hand it can be a learning lesson that it’s better to write your birthday as April 20th, and never as 4/20.

    PS: Please name that company publicly. Maybe write a short mail to a website about tech news, like arstechnica.com or www.wired.com. You could also try the blog boingboing.net

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    • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Seems like they should really keep using 4/20, seems like an effective pre-screening tool for places I don’t even want to walk by, let alone work at.

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    • recapitated@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But that’s still Hitler’s birthday, which is very unprofessional.

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      • LuffyisBlack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Also the anniversary of columbine… Man I hate my birthday.

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    • Meta_J@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Publicity will help prevent such major oversight. This is the problem with using AI for hiring practices instead of real people. Applying to jobs in the 2020s with a college degree, experience in the field, required employment history, and certifications STILL feels like applying for credit cards online with bad credit due to AI prematurely denying many applicants on frivolous grounds before it even gets to the recruiters email/web portal. That being said I don’t think this person is the person who received the email themselves they are just posting it here.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It may not be worth listening to me on this because I only got to preliminary stages of looking for a new job before finding out that I would need to be a full time learning coach for my daughter’s online school, but I had ChatGPT rewrite my resume for me. My reasoning was that if AI is weeding out resumes, they’ll be less likely to weed out a resume written by what an AI thinks a resume should look like.

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    • maynarkh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why does a company even need your date of birth on an application?

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      • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        For the $5 starbucks gift card they give out on employee birthdays

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  • Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wait who puts their birthday on a resume?

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    • bonnetbee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Me, why shouldn’t one do that? But my last resume is 10 years old, maybe I am out of touch with all the mumbo jumbo dancing you have to do, to build the “right” resume.

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      • HollandJim@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Many places now, that might be illegal to ask for, like race and sex.

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      • RGB3x3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Don’t put your age. It can lead to unintentional (or intentional) age discrimination and it’s better for your experience to be the focus.

        Age isn’t a factor in hiring, so there’s no need to put it on there. It could only be a detriment to the applicant.

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      • tty5@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Unless you are trying to get a job with min/max age requirements, like airline pilot or us president, age provides no valuable information to potential employer other than a factor to illegally discriminate on.

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      • r_se_random@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Personally, I would say it shouldn’t matter.

        I wouldn’t want to know the birth date of a person I was interviewing, and there’s no need for my interviewer to know mine.

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    • JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It wasn’t on their résumé it was on their LinkedIn.

      Although now the question becomes, why would you put your DOB on LinkedIn, which I have no idea.

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      • Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I just looked at my LinkedIn and don’t see anywhere that birthday is even displayed. This is clearly fake.

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    • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      who doesn’t?

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      • tty5@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t even have my age on mine.

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  • spudwart@spudwart.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you’re in the US and can afford it, Talk to a lawyer.

    This is blatant discrimination of a immutable attribute which is a Civil Rights violation.

    This is written evidence to that fact.

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    • ddkman@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is why I assume this must be fake. Because even a trainee HR employee would look at that email, and not send it out.

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      • aodhsishaj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nobody looked at that email, it was automated

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  • Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If that’s real and in the US that’s age discrimination and you can sue, and easily win, even if they say it’s not your age, but the date of your birthday it still would fall under discrimination based on age.

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    • procrastitron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Age is only a protected class if you are 40 or older.

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      • MrBusiness@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Well that’s dumb.

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    • quo@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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      • kadotux@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I honestly can’t tell if you’re serious or not.

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    • PhaseL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You can’t teach an old dog new tricks because it is illegal

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  • andthenthreemore@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Under GDPR you have a right for your application to be reviewed by a human rather than an automated rejection. Is there something like that in the country maybe?

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    • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Lol, not in the US.

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      • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You have the right to apply somewhere else. 😘

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    • TostiHawaii@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That is not what GDPR is about.

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  • Smoogs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Nobody wants to work anymore”

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    • MenacingPerson@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      why is your comment glowing golden for me?

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  • madcaesar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We genuinely appreciate

    🤣You obviously don’t you dickheads

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  • Hotchillipotato@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I fucking despise the fact that AI almost exclusively is responsible for throwing out 99% of all resumes before they reach a human being

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  • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Local company? Send it to the local news. They’ll jump all over a reference to end of days AI.

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  • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Reminds me of my sister getting in trouble for saying she had to go at 4:20. It was deemed “unprofessional”. She has a appointment, lol

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  • BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My dude, that is not a company you want to be working for. On the bright side.

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  • HikingVet@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well, I hope that this gets someone in shit.

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  • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well I’d certainly say they dodged a bullet

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  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s embarrassing. Ping their recruitment team on LinkedIn.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Historical fun fact: this is why Hitler was rejected from art school in Vienna.

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  • kamen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Choose a better date to be born on next time, okay?”

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  • dipshit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s the great thing about AI, it’s like a human! Humans don’t need to work anymore because our computers speak like us now! It’s only ever really a problem if someone reads what AI wrote.

    But if you don’t read it, wow, just look at the spacing, the typography, the paragraphs! the tokens words!

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  • zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Could this be considered discrimination? Rejecting applicant based on something they have no control over and unrelated to the position.

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  • Zoidberg@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    LOL! I was born on 4/20 too (and so was Hitler, btw ☹️)

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  • greenmarty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There are people laughing at them for not hiring someone born at 20th of April , very same folks riding elevators and not finding weird that the 13th floor is missing.

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  • kamen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s because they’re using the wrong date format.

    /s

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