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Why is AOC a big deal? She just speaks common sense and calls out absurdity. Have we really gone that far off the rails where we don't do it ourselves?

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Patnou@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • deft@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People will post questions like this and ignore how many politicians are straight up corrupt from any country you can think of

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  • khepri@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We absolutely do, it’s just that none of us ever seem to get elected to the US Congress, so when someone does, yeah, it is kind of a big deal.

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  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s america. It’s because she is easy on the eyes. Don’t overthink it.

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  • Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    yes

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    yes

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  • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Common sense? She’s as intelligent as your average bartender, which is what she was when she was picked by the DNC to be pushed up the flagpole.

    She’s as dumb as a doornail. She routinely makes a fool of herself when she’s asking people questions, sorting she doesn’t have the faintest clue what she’s talking about.

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    • Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, people that had to work during/after university are inherently idiots, and everyone knows that bartenders are morons that should never aspire to anything greater than cracking beers and making cocktails for actual smart people. /S

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        She obviously doesn’t know anything about governing. A degree in international relations and economics is totally useless to governing. And why would she have bothered with an internship with Senator Ted Kennedy when she was going into the House of Representatives‽ Total idiot

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    • NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Didn’t she defeat the Democratic incumbent to get on the ballot for her seat? Oh that’s right, she defeated the Democratic caucus chair, so hardly “picked by the DNC”.

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    • edgesmash@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Asking questions when you don’t know a thing (AOC) is smarter than pretending you know the thing (the vast majority of old congresspeople, especially in the GOP).

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      • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        She’s not asking questions to learn though, she’s asking questions to try and catch people doing the wrong thing in these sessions. She then frequently gets made to look like an idiot because she’s trying to ask “gotcha” questions without realising that her questions make no sense and/or are based on her incorrect understanding.

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    • Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re just wrong, she’s quite intelligent and if you can’t see that you have something else going on.

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      • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        snugfam.com/top-25-aoc-dumbest-quotes-that-went-v…

        This was literally the first result for “AOC dumb quotes”. There are hundreds of other results.

        She has repeatedly shown she is not an intelligent person. Most politicians aren’t. She was chosen by a Democrat PAC as a candidate to be pushed, she wasn’t an up and coming politician who got there on the back of her hard work and intelligence.

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    • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “… average bartender…” ?

      I’m massively intrigued that you believe this construct exists. Where do you socialise; and are outsiders welcome? I’d like to meet a default bar tender, just to see what they’re like.

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      • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Where is your average bartender a dumb useless-degree-having woman who thinks she’s super intelligent? Try any bar around a university in any city.

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      • natecox@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Bartending is, like, really hard. Average bartender must be on the upper end of the bell.

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    • TheDingNoiseInToolSongs@eviltoast.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are people like the commentator bots or just really dense?

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People want to hear politicians repeat what they think

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  • betanumerus@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Disinformation is so widespread, largely because of O&G marketing firms, that speaking common sense has become a big deal.

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  • Abyssian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I guess OP asked a stupid question.

    Anyway, she’s also kind of an ass about things and she’s attractive so most people want to do sex with her.

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    • Shindo66@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I never really thought about it, but yes, I probably have sex with her over any woman in the world.

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  • tigermountain@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The right is so incompetent, destructive, and dangerous that anything on the other side seems reasonable. But the democrats need to remember that part of the DSA playbook is open borders and public control of large corporations. The majority of Americans are absolutely not going to go for that. Maybe the democrats will take back the House and/or the Senate in the midterms as a response to the shit show happening now, but they have to come up with something else if they plan on having a Democrat as president in 2028. The democrats seem equally as incompetent as the republicans.

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  • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most of the other Congresspersons are too beholden to the donor class to speak up for the rest of us.

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  • TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you go to a bar and drink to much the bar tender is likely to cut you off, because you are clearly an alcoholic. If you go to a casino, count cards and constantly win, the Casino will kick you out then ban you from ever coming back. If you use exploits in a MMOG, you’ll get banned. (then hopefully the deves patch the exploit)

    Notice a pattern?..

    Greed is a drug. The stock market is gambling. And Inflation is caused by an infinite money glitch only the uber rich can use. I think I know EXACTLY what needs to be done and you do too, even if you don’t like it.

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  • reddit_sux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is a saying in my country, one eyed man is the king amongst the blind.

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  • Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you do it yourself that’s called thinking for yourself and having an opinion and you know how that goes these days 🙄

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  • Digit@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Time to stop falling for tokens and politicians. They lie. Stop falling for it. No strongman (or woman) to save us. Every little bit of do-ocracy helps ease and inspire more do-ocracy clawed back from the purple party and its two punch tactic to keep us down.

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  • Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This country will never, ever vote a woman in as President. The “What I see as a leader” (sexism) runs too deep.

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    • mossberg590@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They said the same thing about a black man being president. We are obviously not ready yet but we will get there.

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      • SippyCup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The first female president will be a Republican, a nightmarish ghoul, and the source of a significant amount of right wing deflection. Everything liberal women are saying now, justifiably, will be twisted in to an evil, disingenuous retort. And that will only be a distraction from the nightmare president this woman is going to be.

        The first female president will have no way to climb the ladder without being horrifyingly competent. Savvy enough to know when to look like an idiot without ever being one. Manipulative enough to not only work a crowd but work a room of powerful people.

        Men can get by knowing the right people and being charming. Women have to know the right people, be charming, and absolutely crush any opposition to their ascent.

        Quite frankly, Democrats just aren’t going to rally behind a candidate the way Republicans do. Republicans can promise much less and still expect a decent turnout.

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      • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think they did a study in Australia about this. People who voted for a minority candidate were less likely to vote for one in the future because voting for that minority candidate was there “get out of jail free” card for any future racist voting patterns.

        Obama was a once-in-a-lifetime candidate and also almost engineered in a lab to make white people comfortable.

        Likely the first woman president we have will be conservative --someone who woman might vote for because she is a woman, but also someone who men might vote for because she advocates patriarchy… example: Margaret Thatcher. Though, to be honest, the current crop of Christian Nationalist wouldn’t allow it, I don’t think…

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  • Binturong@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Must be a blissful experience not observing any official political discourse at all. It’s all disingenuous rhetoricizing because the ‘conservative’ right only has a policy of extraction and enriching the insanely affluent, and they know that’s not popular, so they simply force the conversation away from practical topics of governing, often with distractions and moarlizing non-issues. The liberal ‘left’ are happy to descend to that arena because they’re also funded by the same insanely rich, and their alleged beliefs and goals conflict with those interests. So it is currently unusual when a politician sidesteps that whole dynamic and just addresses the actual issues living perople everywhere on the political spectrum can identify with in their lived experience. AOC is a pretty good example of someone who is consistently trying to drag the conversation into the practical realm, which the establishment hates because it draws attention to the fact that they have nothing to offer of value to better the lives of the majority of their constituents, and no intention to do so, in fact.

    So yes, as crazy as it is, we are just so far off the rails that simple and practical reform and adressing obvious problems seems outlandish and impossible, but that’s not an accident; It’s what the donor class has paid both sides for. It is a good sign that more political actors are wading into that conversation, and an indicator of the eventual expiry date on corrupting the body politics with bribes.

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  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    we went off the rails in the 1980s dude.

    we have been riding them every since, no feet on the ground.

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  • Mrkawfee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Does she take AIPAC money?

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    we really have

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  • SalamiDommie@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    JD Vance is the male Republican AOC

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  • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Because a lot of you are cowards and hid away instead of helping to shape public opinion. When these leaders like AOC and others do not have people creating content on popular platforms then it leaves a runway for the opposition to create any narrative they want. It’s a numbers game at this point. The opposition convinced supporters to run away and hide and they did willingly.

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  • creamfresh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    who’s that?

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    • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A US Representative from New York: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez

      I agree that this should have been spelled out because the abbreviation AOC can stand for other things too and web search engines don’t necessarily think of this representative as the primary meaning.

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I do, I just don’t hold office.

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