Submitted 2 weeks ago by remington@beehaw.org to technology@beehaw.org
Never been able to be sold outside of the US, including Europe or Asia because it would never pass the safety test, says it all.
It also says something about the American safety tests and laws. Americans are so afraid of Chinese cars that pass all safety tests but this unsafe monstrosity roams the streets?
Not only does it fail to pass basic safety tests it’s also too heavy to drive on a normal licence in pretty much all the countries of the world. It weighs so much that it qualifies as a truck, not a pickup truck, a six wheeler. It’s so heavy it has to take alternate routes around old bridges.
Even if it was legal in Europe, it’d be such an inconvenience to drive that no one would want one.
America only cares about the people buying cars.
Those pedestrians can either buy Canyoneros of their own or go die with the poor.
I just came back from a country full of Chinese cars…I gotta say there were some sexy ass solid feeling automobiles… Saw some tiny ones too, but I feel like I saw more busted rebadged tiny Chevys.
Eh, they sold them in Canada too, I’ve seen many of these garbage containers wobbling around on the roads here.
Had to look up the Edsel to see what a shifter in the middle of the steering wheel would look like.
On the next car I design, the shifter will be located in the trunk. Just to keep things interesting.
The only thing nuttier might be door release handles under the floor mats.
I wish we had more variation in car designs but I suppose it would make licencing difficult. I’d like it if we could drive with foot pedals, push down to accelerate and twist left and right to turn like how it works on an aircraft. Then you could drive hands-free.
How about sticking it somewhere between the engine and transmission? When operating it in the winter, your fingers would stay nice and warm.
Gives the trunk monkey something to do.
I mean … I don’t hate it…
Half of cars today have push-button shifters anyway, and the steering wheel is kind of a fun and novel place to put them.
It’s definitely more intriguing than my boring airbag steering wheel.
I know I shouldn’t judge people without getting to know them but every time I see a cyber truck, I immediately think that the owner must be a gigantic douche canoe.
by the time the cybertruck started delivering, all pretense of who its maker really was was gone. no longer could you think of him as “just the electric car guy who was in the MCU that time and likes posting memes.” It was ABUNDANTLY obvious that he was a fascist boot heel. i can see any tesla on the road but the cybertuck and the model Y and rationalize that someone bought it without knowing, or sold it at a steep loss to someone who just needed a car. but the two newest models in the lineup? those directly funded fascism
More dangerous than the Pinto, too
The thing the Pinto was famous for, its fuel tank being in the rear and exploring, only killed 27 people according to the NHTSA. So pretty low bar.
We used to have standards for our vehicles
If my fuel tank went exploring I’d be worried too
Ford also voluntarily recalled 1.5 million of them and fixed the fuel tank issue that caused the problem.
“Fixing” the cybertruck would involve offering refunds scrapping them.
All cars out of Detroit were designed like that. They only went after Ford because Pinto sold well.
Fiero wins again!
It might sometimes be on fire, but unlike a cybertruck you can put it out!
At least the Cybertruck makes sure you don’t need to buy a new car, by locking its doors. /s
Man I LOVE the fiero… And I hate that I do.
I daily one, I know just what you are going though.
Man what a wonderful pile of pontiac shit it is.
Maybe because it can’t survive a trip to the carwash
What's that? OTA software update couldn't fix that?!
Like so much over the past decade or so, I really thought it was a joke when I first saw one.
Idiots with too much money generate this kind of bs IMO.
You will be shocked to know most of those trucks are bought on deep debt.
Probably because the are so noticeable, but I see 2 or 3 of them on my way to/from work. Hard to tell them apart, but that is a lot in the 20 miles I go.
They tend to be concentrated in my experience. Big tech hubs have a higher concentration. I see a lot of them around Seattle for example.
Meta and Amazon employees on their way to build ICE databases and creeper glasses
Who could have possibly foreseen this?
Shhh!
What about datacenters in space??!! 😮😛!!!
They’ve moved on to mirrors in space now, after briefly experimenting with advertising on the moon which they gave up on when they realised no one would be able to see it.
I wish I didn’t have to see one almost every time I drive somewhere. They are such a standout eyesore that it feels like I see them constantly.
I think they are very impressive looking iconic cars in a vacuum, like DeLoreans. Everything else is really unfortunate about then, but imo the eyesore part largely comes from the -very justified- cultural baggage as well.
DeLoreans are way cooler than these cars. The cybertruck is a Pontiac Aztec designed by a toddler. It’s ugly from virtually every angle
Without the cultural baggage, yeah, they are interesting looking from the side and front quarter angles. But the back side undeniably looks like a trash can or dumpster. I was behind one yesterday with a pink/green hueshift wrap. When I was in traffic behind it, it just looked like I had a green dumpster in front of me lol.
Nah they’re ugly af.
If you wrap them (like you should), then you can make them look cool though. Some of my favorites that I’ve seen are bright pink, yellow, and various wraps covered in decals.
Without wrapping them, they look like scrap metal on wheels.
Lol cool as an art piece, but, not in funtion
I’m terrified of them they’re basically mobile knives. In an accident they could do so much damage, especially anything involving pedestrians. Musk has been caught faking safety details also.
Well now I get to laugh even harder at the suckers who bought them.
The $100,000 dunce hat.
Fun fact: the stainless steel body panels cannot effectively be repaired or refinished to insurance company standards, so if something should happen to even just cosmetically damage one of the main body panels, the entire vehicle is unrepairable and totalled.
This is one of several reasons why the things are extremely expensive and difficult to insure. And, of course, it tells you how to do your part in making them even more expensive and difficult to insure.
Half of the panels on a cybertruck are just stuck on with glue and can be peeled off by hand. It doesn’t seem like something all that hard to fix, they are falling off on their own already. If only they invented some mechanical way to hold car parts together instead of glue…
Hm. Maybe forming some kind of"flange" with holes in it on the edges of the body panel that you could use to secure it with a fastener of some sort … like clips and screws! Perhaps even plastic “push fasteners” that are easy to remove with a flat screwdriver!
Brb, going to patent this original idea that’s never been done before.
I’d be more worried about the aluminum frame. Aluminum under cyclical stress will fatigue and eventually catastrophically fail. It’s why airlines have to constantly test aluminum parts so they can retire or replace them before they fail. It’s only a matter of time before cyber trucks start breaking in half while on the highway. It’s almost like there’s a reason no car manufacturers have made unibody frames out of aluminum before…
Your engineering knowledge needs some work. Most vehicles today have aluminum sub frames and suspension links. Aluminum only fatigues if stresses are beyond the design threshold. Whick is exactly why planes fly millions of miles, and are really only retired because of fuel efficiency.
On the second part, why don’t you just leave peoples vehicles alone? I mean I dont like Nissans either, but I’m not out laying subtle hints to damage people’s property because I don’t like them. That doesn’t make anyone sympathetic to a cause, it makes them more steadfast for whatever you are against. Absolute 1d thinking.
Not saying you should damage either, but are Nissans also impossibility dangerous to anybody else out in public? I am pretty sure if a Cybertruck drove into a pedestrian even in modest speed it would total both.
See way to many of these ugly shit-boxes in Vancouver.
Was on my bike the other day and saw one. Gave the driver the middle finger as I passed.
I saw a swasticar in Stavanger the other day.
I don’t get it ? It was designed so beautyfuuuARHEUD!.. …oh… …sorry, suddenly felt ill there for a moment. Okay, but if we look at the design philosophy of the Chassis, we see that the main lines leads our Eyes gently and smoo ht …uaRGHrgh …huh? …I mean its really not that baaADRGHUUDplft …HYyUDRHd … … …OKAY! …I get it I get it… enough… ffs…
Aesthetics wise, I used to think it kind of looked cool… when it was just a computer rendering with no exposure to conditions of the real world. In person all the flat and shiny but not like mirror-like surfaces mean that even the tiniest warp and defect is visible when the sun shines on it. Someone in my area has one ive seen a few times painted a somewhat matte black, which makes it even worse in that Ive been able to see fingerprints on it from across the street, and from a distance the colors of the windows and body blend together to look like some kind of featureless black monolith.
I get that. The minimalist design is an antithesis to modern auto industrial design where subtle curves and swoops and curled body work are all over trucks these days. I always thought the extra curves were feminine and insulting to trucks marketed for heavy duty manly work. I agree with your observations on the cyber truck on every point. Still surprised it’s less successful than the Corvair though.
aw shucks
How common are these in the rest of America? I see them pretty often here in SF but assume it’s just a techie Elon stan thing.
Not super common where I live!
I see 1-2 a month, at most. Lots of other Teslas, but few people are buying Cybertrucks in the middle of the U.S.
Common enough in Seattle (but that may just be biased by how noticeable they are due to the incongruity of the shape).
I mean, Tesla employs a ton of people in þe Bay area. Þere’s a Tesla factory in Fremont, isn’t þere? Þere must be more Teslas per capita here þan anywhere else in þe world. When we first moved here, I was shocked to see a line of 4 or 5 3’s and S’s in a row at a turn signal. And Cyberturds, soooo many. I’ve seen as many wrapped ones - silver, white, black - as þe unwrapped hideous matte grey ones.
I don’t þink þe Bay area is at all representative of þe rest of þe US. Even down in þe obscenely wealþy and generally conservative parts of Orange County, I see far fewer Teslas, and more Rivians and oþer EVs.
I’m not in America, but they are fairly rare where I live (Canada). Like if I go for a drive in traffic on a commute, I maybe will see one or two at the very most. And it’s usually the same ones that I am seeing when I do see them.
I mean the market for a vehicle that’s >100k, looks like the truck you drew as a child when you were asked to draw a truck, that has almost zero utility and almost certainly has to be awkward as fuck to drive and park due to its width and size, I mean that market is right next to zero. My seven year old is pretty into them though.
I see one a day in Canada. Owners bought them before they realized Musk was a Nazi but they can’t sell them because no dealer will take them on trade-in. Many for sale on used lots, they just sit there, not rusting.
Thank you, BYD.
You wouldn’t know if from all the dumb fucks near me who have one.
It’s bad… But the Pontiac Aztek was a thing.
But the Aztek was the first crossover. Part car, part SUV. The world didn’t know they wanted it yet. Now almost every vehicle is either a truck or a CUV. I can’t see what is going to be redeemable about the CT. Maybe electric pickups will take off among the Tradies, but CT wasn’t even first there.
Didn’t it get a redemption ark with Breaking Bad?
I don’t know if being given to a character to prove how shitty his life is can qualify as a redemption ark.
[laughing in DeLorean]
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Capitalism turning electric vehicles into a horrible, unproductive, ugly symbol of right wing fascism is wild as shit to see in my lifetime.
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Car manufacturers promoting fascism are sadly a thing though. Ford loved Nazi ideology and let’s not even mention German brands.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
It kinda makes a lot of sense I feel that they’d fit together. You have a form of transportation that is dangerous enough that requiring government licensing is generally agreed to be desirable, meaning that if its the primary option, a government can effectively take away a person’s ability to participate in public life or make a living, and easily justify it on safety grounds. Cars are expensive, so a government can both funnel money to its partners in private industry by promoting them, and subsidize them for the populations it considers “desirable” as a means to seem like it has created abundance and luxury (see how how the VW bug came to be for example). And, a society built around cars is one that tends towards physical separation and isolation between people (because of space inefficient infrastructure and relatively quick travel outside of densely built areas), which promotes distrust of others. Thats not to say that cars are inherently fascist or that most people that promote them do so to benefit that sort of ideology, but that if I was some kind of fascist dictator seeking to control a population, Id probably want to push them into buying and relying on cars.
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Yeah, thats true.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
I wish to say that while electric cars are better than ICE cars for the environment, their lifetime emissions especially if required infrastructure is taken into account is really high, and they aren’t as “green” as car manufacturers make them seem. It’s just an inefficient use of energy and space that requires massive amounts of polluting asphalt per person using that mode of transport.
chahk@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
This bullshit has been thoroughly debunked many many times.