Capitalism turning electric vehicles into a horrible, unproductive, ugly symbol of right wing fascism is wild as shit to see in my lifetime.
It’s Looking Like the Cybertruck Is the Biggest Flop in Automotive History
Submitted 14 hours ago by remington@beehaw.org to technology@beehaw.org
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Cruxifux@feddit.nl 14 hours ago
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
Car manufacturers promoting fascism are sadly a thing though. Ford loved Nazi ideology and let’s not even mention German brands.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 12 hours ago
It kinda makes a lot of sense I feel that they’d fit together. You have a form of transportation that is dangerous enough that requiring government licensing is generally agreed to be desirable, meaning that if its the primary option, a government can effectively take away a person’s ability to participate in public life or make a living, and easily justify it on safety grounds. Cars are expensive, so a government can both funnel money to its partners in private industry by promoting them, and subsidize them for the populations it considers “desirable” as a means to seem like it has created abundance and luxury (see how how the VW bug came to be for example). And, a society built around cars is one that tends towards physical separation and isolation between people (because of space inefficient infrastructure and relatively quick travel outside of densely built areas), which promotes distrust of others. Thats not to say that cars are inherently fascist or that most people that promote them do so to benefit that sort of ideology, but that if I was some kind of fascist dictator seeking to control a population, Id probably want to push them into buying and relying on cars.
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 hours ago
Yeah, thats true.
stumu415@lemmy.zip 10 hours ago
Never been able to be sold outside of the US, including Europe or Asia because it would never pass the safety test, says it all.
It also says something about the American safety tests and laws. Americans are so afraid of Chinese cars that pass all safety tests but this unsafe monstrosity roams the streets?
echodot@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
Not only does it fail to pass basic safety tests it’s also too heavy to drive on a normal licence in pretty much all the countries of the world. It weighs so much that it qualifies as a truck, not a pickup truck, a six wheeler. It’s so heavy it has to take alternate routes around old bridges.
Even if it was legal in Europe, it’d be such an inconvenience to drive that no one would want one.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 9 hours ago
America only cares about the people buying cars.
Those pedestrians can either buy Canyoneros of their own or go die with the poor.
kgbbot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
I just came back from a country full of Chinese cars…I gotta say there were some sexy ass solid feeling automobiles… Saw some tiny ones too, but I feel like I saw more busted rebadged tiny Chevys.
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 13 hours ago
Had to look up the Edsel to see what a shifter in the middle of the steering wheel would look like.
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
On the next car I design, the shifter will be located in the trunk. Just to keep things interesting.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
I wish we had more variation in car designs but I suppose it would make licencing difficult. I’d like it if we could drive with foot pedals, push down to accelerate and twist left and right to turn like how it works on an aircraft. Then you could drive hands-free.
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 7 hours ago
The only thing nuttier might be door release handles under the floor mats.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
How about sticking it somewhere between the engine and transmission? When operating it in the winter, your fingers would stay nice and warm.
OwOarchist@pawb.social 12 hours ago
I mean … I don’t hate it…
Half of cars today have push-button shifters anyway, and the steering wheel is kind of a fun and novel place to put them.
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 11 hours ago
It’s definitely more intriguing than my boring airbag steering wheel.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 hours ago
Fiero wins again!
It might sometimes be on fire, but unlike a cybertruck you can put it out!
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
At least the Cybertruck makes sure you don’t need to buy a new car, by locking its doors. /s
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 hours ago
More dangerous than the Pinto, too
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 13 hours ago
The thing the Pinto was famous for, its fuel tank being in the rear and exploring, only killed 27 people according to the NHTSA. So pretty low bar.
christopher@lemmy.ca 12 hours ago
If my fuel tank went exploring I’d be worried too
XLE@piefed.social 13 hours ago
We used to have standards for our vehicles
oatscoop@midwest.social 7 hours ago
Ford also voluntarily recalled 1.5 million of them and fixed the fuel tank issue that caused the problem.
“Fixing” the cybertruck would involve offering refunds scrapping them.
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
Like so much over the past decade or so, I really thought it was a joke when I first saw one.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
Idiots with too much money generate this kind of bs IMO.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
Probably because the are so noticeable, but I see 2 or 3 of them on my way to/from work. Hard to tell them apart, but that is a lot in the 20 miles I go.
Vodulas@beehaw.org 12 hours ago
They tend to be concentrated in my experience. Big tech hubs have a higher concentration. I see a lot of them around Seattle for example.
const_void@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
Meta and Amazon employees on their way to build ICE databases and creeper glasses
ulkesh@piefed.social 9 hours ago
Well now I get to laugh even harder at the suckers who bought them.
schwim@piefed.zip 14 hours ago
Who could have possibly foreseen this?
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
Shhh!
What about datacenters in space??!! 😮😛!!!
echodot@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
They’ve moved on to mirrors in space now, after briefly experimenting with advertising on the moon which they gave up on when they realised no one would be able to see it.
OwOarchist@pawb.social 11 hours ago
Fun fact: the stainless steel body panels cannot effectively be repaired or refinished to insurance company standards, so if something should happen to even just cosmetically damage one of the main body panels, the entire vehicle is unrepairable and totalled.
This is one of several reasons why the things are extremely expensive and difficult to insure. And, of course, it tells you how to do your part in making them even more expensive and difficult to insure.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 11 hours ago
Half of the panels on a cybertruck are just stuck on with glue and can be peeled off by hand. It doesn’t seem like something all that hard to fix, they are falling off on their own already. If only they invented some mechanical way to hold car parts together instead of glue…
oatscoop@midwest.social 7 hours ago
Hm. Maybe forming some kind of"flange" with holes in it on the edges of the body panel that you could use to secure it with a fastener of some sort … like clips and screws! Perhaps even plastic “push fasteners” that are easy to remove with a flat screwdriver!
Brb, going to patent this original idea that’s never been done before.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
I’d be more worried about the aluminum frame. Aluminum under cyclical stress will fatigue and eventually catastrophically fail. It’s why airlines have to constantly test aluminum parts so they can retire or replace them before they fail. It’s only a matter of time before cyber trucks start breaking in half while on the highway. It’s almost like there’s a reason no car manufacturers have made unibody frames out of aluminum before…
GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
On the second part, why don’t you just leave peoples vehicles alone? I mean I dont like Nissans either, but I’m not out laying subtle hints to damage people’s property because I don’t like them. That doesn’t make anyone sympathetic to a cause, it makes them more steadfast for whatever you are against. Absolute 1d thinking.
oats@beehaw.org 4 hours ago
Not saying you should damage either, but are Nissans also impossibility dangerous to anybody else out in public? I am pretty sure if a Cybertruck drove into a pedestrian even in modest speed it would total both.
SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
Thank you, BYD.
FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
See way to many of these ugly shit-boxes in Vancouver.
Sims@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
I don’t get it ? It was designed so beautyfuuuARHEUD!.. …oh… …sorry, suddenly felt ill there for a moment. Okay, but if we look at the design philosophy of the Chassis, we see that the main lines leads our Eyes gently and smoo ht …uaRGHrgh …huh? …I mean its really not that baaADRGHUUDplft …HYyUDRHd … … …OKAY! …I get it I get it… enough… ffs…
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 13 hours ago
Aesthetics wise, I used to think it kind of looked cool… when it was just a computer rendering with no exposure to conditions of the real world. In person all the flat and shiny but not like mirror-like surfaces mean that even the tiniest warp and defect is visible when the sun shines on it. Someone in my area has one ive seen a few times painted a somewhat matte black, which makes it even worse in that Ive been able to see fingerprints on it from across the street, and from a distance the colors of the windows and body blend together to look like some kind of featureless black monolith.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 11 hours ago
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world 12 hours ago
I get that. The minimalist design is an antithesis to modern auto industrial design where subtle curves and swoops and curled body work are all over trucks these days. I always thought the extra curves were feminine and insulting to trucks marketed for heavy duty manly work. I agree with your observations on the cyber truck on every point. Still surprised it’s less successful than the Corvair though.
TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 14 hours ago
aw shucks
Gerudo@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
You wouldn’t know if from all the dumb fucks near me who have one.
Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
How common are these in the rest of America? I see them pretty often here in SF but assume it’s just a techie Elon stan thing.
GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
I’m not in America, but they are fairly rare where I live (Canada). Like if I go for a drive in traffic on a commute, I maybe will see one or two at the very most. And it’s usually the same ones that I am seeing when I do see them.
I mean the market for a vehicle that’s >100k, looks like the truck you drew as a child when you were asked to draw a truck, that has almost zero utility and almost certainly has to be awkward as fuck to drive and park due to its width and size, I mean that market is right next to zero. My seven year old is pretty into them though.
Zier@fedia.io 11 hours ago
[laughing in DeLorean]
libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 1 hour ago
I saw a swasticar in Stavanger the other day.