Are Street Racers "bad people"?

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• stoly@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  There are no “bad people” but plenty of people who do shitty things. Here are some of those that street racers do:

  1. They endanger themselves and others
  2. They make a lot of noise
  3. They pollute, scar, and mark the streets

  So probably “yes” if you want to define it that way.

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• Seleni@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Y’all are assholes who do asshole things.

  That maim people.

  And kill people.

  All the time.

  Seriously why do y’all do this? You can rent time on tracks for cheap!

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  • XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There is nothing cheap about track days unless you mean drag racing. And even still, you know most people’s cars won’t pass tech inspection.

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    • Seleni@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The one held in my city is pretty reasonable. And if they’re not passing inspections to race on a track then they shouldn’t be racing on the street either.

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• OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yes. It puts other people - uninvolved, innocent people - in mortal danger. Also it puts other people’s property in danger. It’s selfish and ignorant.

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• Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yes. Its risky for everyone nearby, there is literally no upside. If you want to race, take it to a track. Every track I have been to has some kind of open track night for like $20 entry and you get santioned racing with proper facilities and a safety crew on standby. Its moronic to do it anywhere else.

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  • KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That would be a great option if tracks stopped getting bought out, torn down, and replaced with suburbs.

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    • Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What I have seen is that if you get in with local car clubs, you can get autox runs for not much money. If you don’t mind dirt, rallyx or dirtx days are also a good way to get track time on a budget.

      Yes, proper track days on a real circuit are expensive but when you look at the consumables like tires, brakes, oil, etc, the entry fee is minimal compared to the actual cost. Even when I had my mini, it was like that. It also really depends on the track. In Houston we have MSR and Grandsport, msr is pricey. Grandsport used to be rented for the day for like $2k and split between 10 or 15 people, that was cheaper than a speeding ticket.

      Realistically, the street racing that occurs around me is all drag style highway blasts or streetlight races. None of these douches are doing circuit drives. So the $20 number wasn’t far off (at least it was before Royal Purple was shut down)

      The problem of tracks getting closed is a major one. Nimby ruins it for everyone. The “racers” are also still to blame here. Its impulse control, and personal responsibility/accountability. Realistically too, a speeding ticket here is $150 minimum, plus court fees of $150ish, plus defensive driving course of $100ish so you are basically to the $500 figure anyways.

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  • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Once I actually stated meeting people in life who go out to the track, I saw street racers in a new light. I never admired them in the first place, but I started seeing them as absolutely pathetic, once I became aware of how easy and popular it is to take your car out to a track and actually push its limits and/or compete with others.

    A lot of people like to go to the firing range, too. But you don’t see them doing target practice walking down the sidewalk. That’s essentially what street racing is.

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• Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yes the are bad people. Why? Because they only care about their thrill over everything else. They cost everyone money when they inevitably have accidents. Even if they had to pay the cost of repairs for their car, they don’t pay all the other costs - police, emergency, road closure, road damage, etc. They willingly put others, innocent others, at life threatening risk. They never, ever drive as well and as in control as they think they do. Racing is fine but do it on a track that is meant for it. Then if you crash and maim or kill yourself, anyone else involved willingly agreed to be part of it.

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• swordgeek@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Motorcyclist here. Pretty much everything I say except stunting is also applicable to car drivers as well.

  Speed is so damned much fun, especially on two wheels. Hit the straight and twist that throttle, and you are GONE!!!

  That said, we have a name for people who do that on the streets - squids. They are the bane of our community, and give us a bad reputation in the general population.

  Want to go fast? Hit up a track day and get some instruction to go with it. Or book some track time just to unwind. Or maybe - just maybe (depending on your local circumstances), find a paved secondary highway with no traffic.

  But street racing? Stunting? Showing off? GET THE FUCKING FUCK OFF THE FUCKING ROAD YOU FUCKING FUCK!!!

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  • porksnort@slrpnk.net ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    ‘Squids’ is a good daily-driver descriptor. I prefer to go straight to ‘organ donors’ usually.

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  • XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Squids have always been gearless riders to me and my circle, not the name for reckless riders

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    • kofe@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Riding without gear is pretty reckless tbf

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• Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They are about the worst you can get in a car. For me, they are right next to those terrorist who drive into groups of people in order to kill them: they have no respect for other peoples lives.

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• SuiXi3D@fedia.io ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Road laws exist to make driving predictable. Breaking those laws makes you unpredictable, and thus a danger. If you want to race, find a track.

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  • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is an aspect of driving that people don’t get. It doesn’t necessarily matter WHAT the laws are–there are so many ways to drive all around the world. What matters is that everyone follows the same ones so that they know what to expect from others. If people routinely ignore one law in a region and that’s part of the expectation, then everyone is just fine. It’s that one person who doesn’t follow the norms that is dangerous.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They will never go to a track. There are track days but that’s not racing. You can’t actually take your slammed 2002 Honda civic with the TEMU spoilers to race. Races are within controlled series with safety and technical requirements, as well as minimal driver training.

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    • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Uh…

      You and I have visited very different speedways.

      Where I come from, if the engine turns over, it is race eligible.

      And if the engine doesn’t turn over, there’s a cool giant fire breathing robot we can still feed the car to.

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• Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  100% yes!

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• YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yes. There are race tracks. You’re pretending there are no secondary effects or bad consequences.

  “Police say two of the victims were innocent bystanders who were killed when the alleged street racer struck their vehicle and it burst into flames …He said the couple leaves behind four kids — ages 10 to 16… “They are deceased because of street racing. We also have one of the drivers who was street racing, he also lost his life,” said Fort Worth Officer Buddy Calzada. “We just can’t understand why somebody would continue to street race at a high rate of speed at the risk of losing their life or taking the life of someone else.””

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  • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s street crashing, which I am very much against.

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• jaemo@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Bad AND selfish. In generous quantities.

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• SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They’re selfish cunts.

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• Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  YES

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• adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Are people with no moral compass, no imagination, a demonstrated lack of intelligence and a demonstrated lack of care for anyone but themselves bad people?

  Do we even need to consider labeling them as such? The other descriptions of their behavior should be damning enough on their own, surely?

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• Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If they were just endangering themselves? I don’t care.

  But in the real world, yeah, they’re horrible people that put lives at risk, along with property.

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• Strider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Even needing to ask… I mean, there are no stupid questions and I know nothing about you, so, fair.

  But imagine this. Streets are public transport paths with agreed upon rules. These rules are there for (likely more than but also) survival and safety.

  So willfully ignoring that and racing there is risking the safety of others on purpose.

  Now the answer should be clear.

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• missingno@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I don't like framing things in terms of doing a bad thing = being a bad person.

  But they are undoubtedly doing a bad thing, street racing endangers bystanders and can get people seriously hurt or even killed.

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  • 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I don’t like framing things in terms of doing a bad thing = being a bad person.

    premeditatedly doing bad thing = bad person

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  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Eh.

    There’s levels of “bad thing”. Stealing a cookie might be a bad thing, but it’s mostly harmless. Stealing, I dunno, someone’s life saving medication…? Probably makes the thief a bad person.

    (If some one were to steal, I dunno, putin’s meds, I don’t think anyone here would be particularly inclined to accuse them, but, details.)

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  • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah. I don’t know how they are on balance, but I know 100℅ it’s a bad action.

    Unless we’re talking about doing doughnuts at traffic lights in ATL, that seems kinda cool. But it is not racing so the initial premise holds.

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    • XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There’s so little actual street racing that I’m not convinced OP is actually asking about racing. Speeding, weaving, running lights, playing in traffic, stunting motorcycles, sliding cars, donuts, burnouts, takeovers, launches, pulls, hits, runs, and digs can all be variably reckless events that the gen pop will call “racing”. Donuts/burnouts have plenty of crash videos where they damage property. Mustangs eat crowds, chargers smack stopped cars, infinitis hit other takeover kids.

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• justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  In a word, mostly, yes.

  They are endangering themselves and everyone around them.

  Go to a race track on a track day. Or organize one.

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• undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Do you think murders are “bad people?”

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• 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  it turned out that there are, in fact, stupid questions…

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• remon@ani.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Of course. At the very least. Actually I have some other words for them.

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• porksnort@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They are not bad if they never forget it is about family.

  Naw, jk, they are terrible. Those douchebags hucked bottles at us when we walked up to just watch. Buncha wankers.

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  • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If that’s why you think they’re wankers, I have news for you.

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• count_dongulus@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sorry what? I couldn’t hear you because of the fucking

  WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  outside

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• ValarieLenin@midwest.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I wish we had a week long national holiday where the Cannonball run was legal and you could raise hell all the way across America on I80.

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  • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The Purge, but for street racing?

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    • ValarieLenin@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes

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• chunes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yeah

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• Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A lot of them are assholes, yeah. You can safely assume some of those people are also lawbreakers if they're already breaking a few dozen laws by doing stupid street racing. Probably drug dealers too. Doing something like illegal street racing, is like a criminal's side-hobby. You won't know what else they've done until they've gotten arrested.

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  • XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Weirdly puritanical view. Drug dealers aren’t running like moonshiners.

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    • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, they do run like moonshiners, but that’s different from street racing for the fun of it.

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• Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I don’t think there’s a lot of bad people in the world as in people with bad intentions. I’d say they are ignorant and selfish.

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• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  No

  If we didn’t want people to abuse their giant metal death machines then we shouldn’t let people have them in the first place

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• P1nkman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  100% yes.

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• apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Nah but it is really stupid and wreckless behavior.

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