Do you think people who illegal street race are ‘bad people’?
Yes.
Submitted 1 day ago by Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz to [deleted]
Do you think people who illegal street race are ‘bad people’?
Yes.
track day, bro
They are 3 raccoons in a trench coat.
What even is this question?!
In my community, street racing seems to be the entertainment du jour for people with nothing better to do. I live about a half mile (800m) from a major roadway, and very often am jarred by the noise of people racing full tilt. There are a few people who even have modified their cars to be louder, and you can distinctly pick out the sound of their cars.
I’m a light sleeper, and these people will wake me up in the middle of the night with their ‘shotgun exhausts,’ racing down the street. They kill about 5 people a year. Earlier this year, a street race injured over a dozen people, and killed a kid.
As a result, the city has re-timed the lights so that when traveling at normal speeds, traffic is stopped at every stoplight, which means that most drivers now just wontonly disregard speed limits to beat the light timing and not get trapped in a frustrating cycle where a 2-mile drive down the road takes upwards of 15 minutes instead of 5. This just causes the street racers to race later, when they can run the lights and wake everyone up. Plus the increase in speeding by normal drivers decreases safety on the road.
Both the direct and network effects of their stupidity are pretty significant.
So - yes. Street racers are bad people. They are callous, immature, and both actively and passively endanger other motorists. Also, I’m fucking tired, and my dogs are traumatized.
Street racing i have no opinion about but street crashing i am against
Ok but you guys are we really so sure that subjecting others to the coercion of a prison-industrial complex is justified when all they’re doing is following their instincts? How do we know that we’re not the ones who are actually bad people?
A quick scan reveals I’ve never committed a vehicular homicide, and do not engage in activities that are statistically likely to improve the odds that I will commit a vehicular homicide. I’m fine with with jailing someone who’d risk everyone around them with death and dismemberment for their entertainment.
There is no such thing as an “instinct to drive dangerously”, it’s called “a choice”.
Annnnnd fuck that choice.
but you guys are we really so sure that subjecting others to the coercion of a prison-industrial complex is justified when all they’re doing is following their instincts?
Assume we’re not talking desert highway street racing - or places that no one cares:
Their instincts could kill my kid. The prison industrial complex is the nicer response.
People who routinely behave in ways that endanger children are unaware of how many of the rest of us own a good shovel and know a spot to get rid of their body.
How do we know that we’re not the ones who are actually bad people?
Oh. The ethical implications are truly complex, but they don’t matter because we won’t agree to live with them. Child endangerment doesn’t routinely lead to deep ethical introspection. People tend to just go with the instincts that allowed children to survive over so many generations.
And yes, this is also why so many bad laws get passed “for the children”.
My advice for street racers: do it out of sight of any parents, and we’ll away from anywhere that children play.
I’d stay away from them. If they race on sanctioned racing tracks, that’s one thing. Otherwise, I wouldn’t get to one of those events.
Sure
starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Will you stfu already?