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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • darcy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    the article is propaganda btw! many autistic people are still affected by marketing and the like! NO ONE IS IMMUNE

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    • ozmot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There’s no one a con man loves more than someone who thinks they’re too smart to be conned.

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      • newIdentity@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        People who think they’re immune to ads are the most vulnerable to ads.

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    • pimento64@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      NO ONE IS IMMUNE

      Sorry but I’m built different

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    • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes no one is immune to propaganda in the sense of misinformation.

      Ads on the other hand… The often quoted subconscious working of ads just doesn’t work on me: i choose my müesli based on parameters, not on whims!

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      • newIdentity@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s called subconscious for a reason. You aren’t concous about it.

        How do you know that you choose your muesli based on parameters, when things like taste are influenced by the brand and design of the package. No this is not a joke and there actually have been studies on this.

        www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0950329312002364

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      • byroon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Have you considered those ads simply aren’t targeted at people like you but at the mainstream instead? And that you may well still be susceptible to adds targeted at your kind of mindset?

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      • schmorpel@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Another side effect of ads: you think you want Muesli for breakfast, not soup or fried egg.

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      • HelixDab2@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You buy your muesli…? You know you can make it cheaply and easily, right?

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      • Johanno@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Did you make a blind test on your Müsli? Get several different brands and eat them blind.

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    • V0lD@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hellen Keller?

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      • darcy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        braille marketing

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    • MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Speak for yourself

      puts on the blue cap

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      • darcy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        not the kind of blue cap i first thought of when i saw this notification

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  • technologicalcaveman@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Advertisements work opposite for me. If I see an ad, I hate the company. I adamantly will only choose materials based on personal research and the suggestions of my peers. Any suggestion by a corporate entity or otherwise paid method will only serve to brew hate. Beyond that, I will go to just about any means to get rid of ads. I often refuse to deal with a company if their ads show up when I don't want them to, or if their ad annoys me. There is no good ad.

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    • KevonLooney@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      only choose materials based on personal research and the suggestions of my peers.

      And how do you know what to choose from? Ads.

      You may not like it but advertisements work on you. They just need to be more subtle. You are fooling yourself if you think you are immune.

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      • STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        true that google search is littered with ads. But savvy consumers know how to do research while avoiding sponsored content and finding unbiased specs and reviews.

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    • altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same. It’s very weird I guess. Ada just name me dislike a brand for trying so hard, or hot trying hard enough. Also mainstream stuff tends to irk me the wrong way

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  • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Autistic people fall hand over foot for propaganda.

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I believe you no questions asked

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    • Squorlple@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      @elonmusk

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    • Razzazzika@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Certainly when I was younger that was absolutely the case. I like to think now that I’m older I’m a little more of a free thinker. But ads? Specifically targeted ads? I don’t stand a chance. If I see a game on sale that I’m mildly interested in or a new D&D source book that sounds cool I will buy it without regard for if I need that money for something else.

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  • I_Has_A_Hat@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think anyone who grew up heavily using the internet in the 90s/00s is inoculated against ads as a survival mechanism. Back in those days, clicking ANY sort of ad was a good way to get a virus or spyware. I learned to avoid ads at all cost and, to this day, I’m distrustful of any ad I see.

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    • Dagrothus@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is true even today. Ads are shady af and even the top link on Google is often a literal scam/virus. Ie for years if you looked up the most popular game client for runescape - runelite - the very first link was a fake version that stole your login info. They paid Google and Google said ‘not my problem’. Not to even mention ads on other sites like Facebook. Even in the cases where an ad isnt a blatant scam or virus, ads are inherently dishonest by design and there is no consequence for using them to lie about your product.

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    • Binthinkin@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Still shady and also useless. I don’t buy shit I see in ads because I don’t let them track me.

      It’s better the industry just dies and the people go back to being psychiatrists.

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  • Jaysyn@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Between not watching TV & the pihole router cleaning our internet feed, I may not be immune to ads, but I sure as fuck don't see them.

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    • LukeMedia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This just makes ads stick out like a sore thumb when I actually run into them

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      • SSUPII@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah but I cannot remember those personally. Wasn’t a target for ads to also be memorable?

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      • z500@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I use Connect for one of my Lemmy accounts, and I have it set to use WebView, for the memes. But whenever I open an actual website it’s absolute fucking cancer

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    • rivr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How blocking affects pi temperatures? Is it same as idle?

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      • MycelialMass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Barely moves the dial

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  • n0m4n@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Immune is overstating it, strongly resistant is more accurate. I hate labeled clothing, or team clothing. It irritates me when my car has a dealer label, and do not blow smoke about how cool I will look, with whatever or wearing whatever. If my vehicle moves from A to B, is reliable, safe, and doesn’t cost an unreasonable amount to operate, I am good. Does anyone else parse ads, to see their actual claims in neutral language? And filter out the puffery filler words?

    Make it noise-cancelling, however, and I am very interested. NRR 33+ brings a smile to my face.

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  • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nobody is immune to propaganda.

    That said, when it comes to advertisements, I hate them passionately, and will often note the brand in the advert so I can avoid it.

    I don’t know how people can function while there’s a flashy animated thing to one side of their screen, I literally cannot read the main content until that is gone or covered up. It muddled my brain until it’s gone.

    Heck, even an overly busy and colourful web page due to a bunch of static ads is very oppressive and difficult to deal with. An untidy website gives me an untidy mind, basically.

    I just don’t get how people wade through this crap and get anything done. I’ve blocked ads for decades now, and I’m never going back.

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    • ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How do you know company A is really advertising to you Company B’s product, which is a competitor of theirs?

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    • isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Whenever I use a computer without an ad blocker, I’m literally holding out my hand on the screen to block the ad so it doesn’t distract me. ADHD+ND is a bitch.

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    • bob_wiley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I hate them passionately, and will often note the brand in the advert so I can avoid it.

      I’ve been getting a letter from State Farm Insurance every week (sometimes multiple per week… sometimes multiple per day) for over almost 20 years. I’ve moved 15 times and they still follow me. All this has done is guarantee I will never sign up for their shitty insurance. I’ve been thinking about calling them just to try and get the letters to stop. I had to do this with XM… it worked, until I got a new car and another free 3 months. Now I guess I need to call and yell at them again.

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  • Chickenstalker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ads don’t actively persuade you to buy something immediately. They plant the information in your mind so that one day when you need to buy something, the first thing that comes to mind is the advertised product. Targetted ads try to shorten this period by guessing what you might need in the shortest term. Autists simply miss the information if they’re not paying attention.

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    • dangblingus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh, we’re paying attention, we’re just so insulted that such a pathetic attempt to incept us is what passes for acceptable marketing from multi-billion dollar corporations that we’re gladly buy the brand that didn’t advertise simply because it knew to leave well enough alone.

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    • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ads both plant information and attempt to persuade. How much effort went into each and how effective they are varies wildly. Furthermore, there are multiple reasons autistic persons aren’t as suseptible to advertisements; it is true that different things tend to get our attention, but it’s also true that we find some arguments to be less persuasive. For example “I did this thing and my life is amazing” is far less likely to influence an autistic person than a neurotypical one.

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I can certainly see that as the car for impulse purchases.

      What baffled me was a stretch where I was getting banner ads for a particular company’s multi million dollar yachts. I was wondering who in the world would be swayed by such a frivolous thing as a banner ad for such a gigantic purchase.

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  • moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    OP I have the 'tism and I have just one thing to say:

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    • mojo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You to are propaganda not immune

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      • Nika03@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I propagate not immuna

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  • MargotRobbie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Foolish lemmings, you only thought you could escape from the endless barrage of advertisement on this obscure technology forum, but over the past 3 months, I have TRICKED you into watching my super awesome movie that I’m currently not allowed to promote in theater!

    Nowhere is safe from the masterful marketing techniques of Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie. Nowhere.

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    • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ms Robbie, you’re making a scene

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      • MargotRobbie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You’re going to have to be way more specific than that, because as an actor, Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie makes a lot of scenes!

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  • nyoooom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Shit, is that why any time I sense the marketing it makes me not want the product??

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    • atlasraven31@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s your mind’s natural immune system fighting BS

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    • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      As a general rule, if I want it, I seek a good deal. If I am approached, it’s bad deal for me so I avoid.

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    • Triple_B@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I was today years old when I found out I was autistic.

      Just kidding, I’ve known for years.

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      • nyoooom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah I’m pretending a bit, I’ve been aware for a mere few months now

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  • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Marketing just isn’t adjusted to people with autism because they are only a small part of the population.

    They can definitely manipulate you if they so desire.

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    • n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, no they can’t esp when I block all ads

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      • Rambi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I feel like about 4% of all the comments on Lemmy are just people telling each other they use an adblocker

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      • liztliss@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Do you listen to the radio or live in a state with billboards? Do you go anywhere in public? Lots of places you can’t block advertisements…

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  • Hazdaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Marketing is a $1/4 TRILLION industry in the US alone because it works. Thinking that you are immune to it for one reason or another is laughable. In fact those that think they are immune to it, probably are the most susceptible to it’s pull.

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    • wkk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If not immune then what, how do you explain someone that never bought something he saw in one of the countless ads thrown at him?

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      • Nepenthe@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They are broke

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      • Hazdaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        never bought

        I’d call them a lying sack of shit, quite honestly, because the best marketing is subliminal and can create a desire that you might not notice for a while or in a different environment. You don’t have to click on an ad or immediately jump on Amazon to be affected by marketing. But the fact that you might remember the name of a certtain product when you go to the store and buy that type of cereal or simply yearning for a certain type of phone or shoes or car means that marketing is indeed working on that person.

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  • jaschen@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Have ADHD with an inability to unfocus from being hyperfocused. I hate ads. I go out of my way to block it and if anything slips through, I mute or just simply turn away.

    Funny thing is for work, I’m in marketing/advertising.

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    • MamboGator@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is like seeing how the sausage is made.

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      • jaschen@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        And I hate it. It’s a living.

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  • FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    FWIW, I’m autistic (officially) and no autistic people I know are right-leaning.

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    • RavenFellBlade@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same. Almost every autist I know who has any interest in politics is very strongly leftist. It’s the sense of justice and disdain for obvious bullshit, I suspect. At least it is for me.

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  • dbilitated@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I guess missing social cues works out when they’re being manufactured to manipulate you

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    • MooseBoys@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Advertisement: Attractive woman smiling and putting her arm around a man.

      Neurotypical Subconscious: Maybe a nice Seiko watch would make me more attractive?

      Autistic Subconscious: I need to remember to schedule my dentist appointment.

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      • creditCrazy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        For me at least is more accurate to say my mind is thinking"so what is it that makes this watch better than the one I currently have"?

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  • Lexam@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you think marketing doesn’t work on you, then its working.

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  • HelixDab2@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Here’s the link to the referenced article.

    The short of it is that people on the spectrum focus on the details, and ignore ‘extraneous’ information. The typical emotional appeals–such as the choice of certain fonts, colors, graphics, emotional language, etc., is going to be largely ignored by people on the spectrum, while they focus on the details that are directly relevant to the use of the product.

    I’ve noted this tendency in myself (and yes, I"m on the spectrum).

    Obvs. that doesn’t mean that all advertising falls flat, just that the kinds of emotional appeals that are more typical in advertisement are going to be less effective.

    Oh, and I do block ads across all platforms.

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  • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Faaaake

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  • Romanmir@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t consider myself immune to ads. I do consider myself to be resistant to manipulation, however.

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  • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s only one thing that has been successfully marketed to me.

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  • eumesmo@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Until they make advertisements aimed specifically on autistic people…

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  • Lanusensei87@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Then you have people like Chris Chan, who literally believes advertisements are accurate depictions of real life. But in fairness, the autism isn’t the only factor at play there…

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  • SternburgExport@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I sure as hell am not

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  • GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So what actually are the numbers on the low-functioning to high-functioning scale? Because it does not surprise that someone who starts screeching uncontrollably because they find their toothbrush on the wrong side of the sink in the morning would not concern themselves with the new Nike Airs.

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  • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think I am allergic to commodification. I could get out of my house but there’s fee public spaces, so I could go to a restaurant or a coffee shop I guess. Some people seem to do this all the time, become regulars. Isnt it just throwing money away to enjoy having someone else do it for you? To sit in a comfy place? I hate it. I am going to be unhappy rather than spend my days exchanging my money for the chance to smile.

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  • Illuminostro@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “This year, hundreds of men will die of stubbornness from ignoring…”

    “No, we won’t.”

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  • BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    However much I despise adverts and go to great lengths to avoid them it’s also true to say that I could recite all the ads of my favourite podcasts. They have been pounded into my consciousness so often that I can’t do anything about it if I want to listen. On the other hand, I refuse to ever purchase any of those items on principle. Advertisers can eat my refuse.

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  • thorbot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    YOU ARE TO PROPAGANDA IMMUNE

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  • inanna@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I want tobe a savvy consumer

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