this is far beyond gender.
Males are styled to be boring, girls to be pretty.
the fact that a man can get married, work, and buried in the same suit is depressing as fuck.
men need to feel pretty too.
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Samdell@lemmy.eco.br to greentext@sh.itjust.works
this is far beyond gender.
Males are styled to be boring, girls to be pretty.
the fact that a man can get married, work, and buried in the same suit is depressing as fuck.
men need to feel pretty too.
But at least we get pockets.
ok, how about we share pocket tech with women in exchange for wing tip eye makeup?
Yes, we are pack mules.
They used to refer to this ideology as “Metrosexual - Gay in the streets, straight in the sheets.”
stupid ass name, remember that.
what if men took a bit if care about their hygiene.
MEW SECUALITY ALERT!!!
Isn’t that when you have sex with buses?
Blame Beau Brummel for that one.
Counterpoint: David Mitchell’s Soapbox.
gonna have to downvote you for sharing such a cancerous website, sorry mate. I can’t condone that shit without disclaimers
Ugly Brummel (Beau = beautiful in french)
Why does everyone bring up purple shirts. I wore those noby cares
Karl Stefanovic told Fairfax News Media in Australia that he donned the same blue Burberry knockoff day in and day out on Channel Nine’s “Today” program to illustrate the double standard dealt against his female colleagues, who are regularly criticized for their fashion choices.
Newscaster Karl Stefanovic Wore Same Suit for a Year, No One Noticed (abcnews.go.com)
I’m a cis male and I have so little interest in my looks that the only looks related thing that I even think about, is my weight, mainly because I don’t want to be unhealthy. If I’m “overweight” or “obese” and healthy, I couldn’t give a fuck about being whatever weight I am. I just know that being overweight is frequently a sign of being unhealthy, or can cause health complications like T2 diabetes.
I typically wear black 90% of the time or more, because I don’t have to think about matching colors or standing out or being stylish or whatever.
For fashion, all black, uninteresting clothes, are generally neither hated, nor loved by people. It’s very meh, bland, uninteresting, not notable, and generally very meh. I’m good with that. I may never be “en vogue” or whatever the fuck, but I’ll never have someone looking at me like “you’re wearing that shirt with those pants?” They’re all black. I’m wearing black jeans with a black T-shirt.
I feel exactly the same.
Reminds me of when I used to go to my friend’s house and dress up in her clothes and have a threesome with her boyfriend.
I’m a straight cis male though.
Thank you for your wise words, SatansMaggotyCumFart
Wouldn’t this just be considered cross dressing? Not sure if the language has evolved there though.
Now I’m thinking of Eddie Izzard
Yea cross dressing is still a popular thing, with this greentext joke ignores. Though a lot of closeted trans women would also be extatic at the situation presented here.
Also! Woa! I didn’t know that! Good for her good for her
Isn’t that literally crossdressing? Someone enjoying dressing up as the opposing gender, yet being cis otherwise? For example, just because they like the aesthetic, or because it is a fetish for them?
Izzard identifies as genderfluid[94][95] and calls herself “somewhat boy-ish and somewhat girl-ish”.[18] She uses the word “transgender” as an umbrella term.[96] When asked in 2019 what pronouns she preferred, Izzard responded, “either ‘he’ or ‘she’” and explained, “If I am in boy mode, then ‘he’, or girl mode, ‘she’”.[97] In 2020, she requested she/her pronouns for an appearance on the TV show Portrait Artist of the Year and said she wants “to be based in girl mode from now on”.[98] In March 2023, she announced that she would begin using the name Suzy in addition to Eddie, saying that she is “going to be Suzy Eddie Izzard”.[2][1] Explaining that she had wanted to use the name Suzy since she was 10 years old, she added that people “can choose” which name they want to use to refer to her,[1][2] and that she would keep using Eddie Izzard as her public name since it is more widely recognised.[99]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Izzard#Personal_life
for the lazy ^
FTR, I have seen Eddie/Suzy at multiple shows, and s/he has said that “Eddie” is fine, but prefers Suzy.
It’s still Cis if you keep the man-socks on
The super manly programming socks hehe :3
Makes sense. I’ve been told that taking off the socks is what makes it gay to give the homies a smooch. So I cannot find fault in this logic.
What do they say? The socks make the secks
MF a bigger egg than an ostriches.
Why are we redefining someone else’s gender for them instead of redefining what it means to be a man? Normalize make up and ‘girl clothes’ for men. Normalize looking pretty for men. Regardless if someone declares themselves trans or cis, believe them.
exactly.
I’d like to wear makeup without being accused of being gay (i am gay but not because I like makeup)
I’d like to wear dresses without being accused of being drag (I’m not even sure what that means)
I’d like to be pretty without being called weak (i can bench press your mother)
people should be allowed to be who they are.
That’s what bothers ma a bit about “being trans”. Why is it considered as having the wrong biological sex and not just disrupting the gender stereotypes?
Are you talking the difference between something like cross dressing and being trans? I’ll dive into it as I’ve had this on my mind recently.
My understanding is the main focus of being trans is the change in gender identity. Biological sex doesn’t really come into it, it’s all about social roles, expectations etc. A man can wear woman’s clothing and still be a man after all.
I can’t really speak for people’s experiences when it comes to them not physically matching their views on their gender. It’s a deeply individual thing I imagine. Physical changes, hormones etc are not required to be trans, though they can be a part of it.
The point that caught me for a bit was my views on gender equality. I was of the opinion that gender/sex stereotypes shouldn’t really define people, but that clashed with the idea that people sometimes desire the stereotypes that go along with gender.
It’s a tricky thing to want both true equality but also respect differences in gender, because in some ways they aren’t always compatible. But we aren’t the result of our ideals so much as we are the result of our upbringings, and gender is a large part of our identity. It’s baked into us, girls want pretty dresses, boys want power tools, and you will be treated different based on what you present as, regardless of how bullshit that might be.
The way I see it, it’s only fair to say fuck it, you can be whichever gender you want. I still think stereotypes are something we should move away from ultimately, but that’s a long road that I’ll never live to see the end of, and if someone can be happier today, I don’t see why that’s a problem.
It’s because gender presentation is only one component of it, and the other is biochemistry.
Trans people experience dysphoria partly because their bodies do not produce the amount of sex hormones (progestogens we, androgens, and estrogens) at a ratio that matches what their brain needs. It’s like putting gas into a diesel engine. Their brain expects their body to develop in a certain way, and it does not.
The only person who can tell a person what their gender is is that person themselves. Even if it’s obvious to everyone around them, it’s not one’s job to dictate to another something that personal.
Or we could just abolish all these gender stereotypes and acknowledge everyone has one biological sex (except rare genetic variants) but it doesn’t matter and no one has to know which genitals you have in everyday life.
Obviously fake, no anon has a girl friend of any type.
Twist: op is a girl on the internet.
Sounds like gender euphoria: being totally fine with your assigned gender but feeling much better in a different one
This is adorable
I also want a friend like that.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’m a guy but I was made an honorary girl once, way back in high school, so that I could attend an all-girls sleepover party. I was assigned the name “Isabelle”.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
how did it feel?
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Sorry, but my answer is going to be boring. It happened before transgender issues started getting a lot of attention, so I just thought it was funny and naughty. I wasn’t thinking about gender identity. Now I don’t feel like my gender is a big part of who I am, so I also don’t feel a strong reaction (either positive or negative) to the idea of having a different gender.
At one point the girls were holding me down and trying to put makeup on me, but I wriggled loose. I do regret that a little, not because I wish I had had makeup on but because I think that if I had been less self-conscious back then, I would have had more fun and better stories to tell too.
the_tab_key@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Butters?
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
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mx_smith@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Maybe Margirine.