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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16221078/

sciencealert.com/scientists-close-in-on-why-octop…

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  • Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    According to the article the females don’t fare any better either.

    I didn’t know this about octopi, what’s the point, evolutionarily, to self destruct after reproducing?

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    • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      what’s the point, evolutionarily, to self destruct after reproducing?

      There is no point, evolution is about successful reproduction and everything else is just random chance.

      If a evolutionary tweak happens that gives your off spring better chances, but your arms fall off after sex then it’ll probably perpetuate.

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      • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Unless your species is a K Strategist where taking care of your offspring/group is essential.

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      • MeatPilot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just goon forever

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      • serenissi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        everything else is just random chance.

        nope, then you’d see some of same species showing the behaviour, others not.

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      • KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No that’s absolutely not true, every part of evolution happens for a reason and those we don’t know, we research until we find out why

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      • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Maybe them dying is the bonus, eliminating the old blood.

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      • x4740N@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wouldn’t it make them easier to he hunted by prey or just die from not being careful

        People with dementia can end up getting themselves fatally injured so I don’t see an octopus can’t

        So I don’t see how it’s beneficial to help them survive

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    • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Essentially their entire mating cycle is what causes this. They’ve got a gland behind the eye that puts them into mating mode and once it starts it never turns off until they overdose on sex hormone.

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      • TheDoozer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Holy shit what a way to go.

        Get horny > have sex > orgasm > keep orgasming > die of too much orgasm

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      • ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I wonder what would happen if you removed the gland? How long could they live and how big could they get?

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    • Contramuffin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s a specific life history strategy called semelparity, which is what you’re describing (breeding once then dying). To my understanding, this is incentivized if the chances of getting a second attempt to breed are too low, and so it becomes more evolutionarily advantageous to simply go all out on the first attempt

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      • Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks, one solid answer! It could be that it used to be an advantage at some point and now it’s just perpetuated

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      • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Semelparity: “Fuck it, I’m gonna nut to death”

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      • perestroika@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes. A bit similar process in sea-dwelling salmons: migrating from salt water into fresh water (quite a big metabolic challenge in itself), traveling up rapids to suitable spawning places (often a long and arduous journey)… after they’ve accomplished that, their chances of returning alive are quite low. So they mostly die. But river-dwelling trouts spawn many times in life, because their migration isn’t as costly.

        I would suspect that something in how octopuses mate has an element of “return being costly” - it could be a metabolic return to the feeding and growing state instead of a physical return.

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      • omxxi@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That makes sense, if there is an organism that is a very good predator, and the chances to breed a second time are too low, then if the organism doesn’t die it will be consuming the resources of those who can breed. Natural selection must prioritize having descendents over long living, because not having descendents is extinction.

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    • thefartographer@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To prevent decrepit politicians who already had their chance from usurping the resources of the next generation and pulling up the ladder behind them?

      You know… Octopus politicians

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      • Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Hmmm… Looking at Cthulu and not sure what to think about here

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      • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Pro: they die shortly after mating

        Con: they leave hundreds of nepobabies

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    • JayDee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not everything in evolution ends up having a point. So long as a problem does not impact the propagation of children it can end up moving forward to the next generation.

      I would guess that if there is an Evolutionary reason, it’s probably that octopi with this drive reproduced More than octopi that didn’t.

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      • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They reproduce so much because they forget they had already done it and believe they need to do it or else

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    • MinFapper@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Evolution doesn’t care what happens to you after reproduction because you’ve already passed on your genes at that point

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      • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean, yes, but if you’re not a vegetable afterwards, you will have more chances to reproduce. Therefore passing on your genes more

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      • psud@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Take that point and explain humans living to about 100 after breeding from 20 to 40

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    • zeca@lemmy.eco.br ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      whatever works…

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    • houstoneulers@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I read that it’s so the parents don’t compete for resources with their young, helping to support the young’s survival

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      • Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Fair, another possibility, thanks for the answer

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    • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Reproduction is the goal. It could be as simple as giving the young a chance to out compete their r****ded parents for limited food.

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  • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is how biologists interpreted ghosting

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  • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This happened to me. No joke. I lost half a standard deviation from my iq for each child i had. #dunceLife

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    • Artyom@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Are you sure it’s not because of chronic exhaustion for several months in a row instead of the sex?

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      • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I can keep it up for a good while, but several months is excessive.

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      • beejboytyson@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        He never said the kids were his…

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The literal version of “man has enough blood to operate his brain or his penis, but not both at once.”

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  • windowsphoneguy@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What?

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    • Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Octopuses didn’t get post nut clarity.

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      • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        or maybe they do and it’s unfathomable to the rest of us

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  • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If a human has sex with an octopus will the same thing happen to them? Asking for a friend.

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      wcgw

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    • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why don’t you find out for us?

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      • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not allowed at the aquarium any more :(

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  • felixwhynot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Same tbh

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    • bdot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      yep. now i’m a dad!

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good. They deserve it. Octopuses are dicks. They keep demanding you to call “octopi.” Sure. When you start calling me and my homies squidi, I’ll start calling you guys octopi.

    But no, they can’t see past their octopus privilege. As if having two fewer arms made them superior.

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    • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Octopi is the oldest plural form of octopus, coming from the belief that Latin origins should have Latin endings. However, octopus is not a simple Latin word, but a Latinized form of the Greek word októpus. Consequently, its “correct” plural form would logically be octopodes.

      Nowadays “octopodes” and octopuses" are both acceptable, the latter being more regularly used.

      “Squid” on the other hand isn’t Latin or Greek, of unknowns origin, probably from a sailor’s variant of “squirt”; late 15c., squirten, squyrten “to spit water from the mouth” (intransitive), a word of uncertain origin, perhaps via Middle Dutch or Middle Low German, probably ultimately imitative.

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  • satans_methpipe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Post nut catastrophe :/

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  • ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So Timothy was lying

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