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You'll never see it coming

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨cm0002@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • Godort@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not worried about this specific apocalypse, if only because there is literally nothing that can be done to prevent it nor stop it if it starts.

    I’m far more worried about more localized, preventable, human-caused apocalypse like climate or nuclear war.

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    • Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also, we won’t see it coming and won’t feel it happen. As far as deaths go, it’s about as easy as it gets.

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      • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        on the bonus side takes Trump, Elon, Nigel and Tate with it.

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    • Tower@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Exactly. Same energy as worrying about Earth being hit by a gamma ray burst - 🤷‍♂️

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I would be very glad if it was something only destructive to humans, and not the planet(s ecosystems).

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      • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The dowvotes signal a trend against misanthropy, which is the only logical conclusion.

        Let me test this theory: We are a virus. An STD that is always lethal and should be eradicated for the planet’s good.

        But also let me quote Dostoyevsky to end my point positively:

        “I have seen the truth; I have seen and I know that people can be beautiful and happy. … I will not and cannot believe that evil is the normal condition of mankind.”

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      • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not all humans are bad and destructive, nor is the collective human race universally destructive. We have saved species from extinction and made great strides to protect ecosystems. Don’t damn the lot of us for the crimes of the worst of us.

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  • Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wikipedia:

    "threat

    If our universe is in a false vacuum state rather than a true vacuum state, then the decay from the less stable false vacuum to the more stable true vacuum (called false vacuum decay) could have dramatic consequences.[5][6] The effects could range from complete cessation of existing fundamental forces, elementary particles and structures comprising them, to subtle change in some cosmological parameters, mostly depending on the potential difference between true and false vacuum. Some false vacuum decay scenarios are compatible with the survival of structures like galaxies, stars,[7][8] and even biological life,[9] while others involve the full destruction of baryonic matter[10] or even immediate gravitational collapse of the universe.[11] In this more extreme case, the likelihood of a “bubble” forming is very low (i.e. false vacuum decay may be impossible).[12] "

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    • dharmacurious@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Does this mean the laws of physics could just… Change?

      Hoping for the scenario that means FTL travel is possible and nothing else changes lol

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      • Masta_Chief@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Irl physics patch is crazy

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      • merthyr1831@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        yup. though if the laws of physics change then that also means the laws of physics holding your atoms together are gonna be blended up into a soup at the very least

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      • Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That seems wildly improbable. What are you going to push off of to get you to speeds faster than light? There could be gimmicky ways like expanding / contracting space, but thats not moving faster than light, thats space changing faster than light. Changing cosmic topology to allow stable wormholes could possibly do something similar, but that could just as easily mean that you and all other matter exist in the exact same location. That would be… not fun

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    • 8000gnat@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      maybe you couldn’t survive it but I’m built different

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    • xthexder@l.sw0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m going to file this under the category of philosophy similar to “what if we’re living in a simulation?” and “parallel universe” theory. As far as I’m aware we have no evidence that there’s even such thing as a false vacuum, so this is all just speculation based on some theories.

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      • Klear@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, if you need existential dread, a gamma-ray burst could end us in an instant too and they’re confirmed to exist and much more likely.

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    • ace_garp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, that sucks.

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    • Kornblumenratte@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “We like to destroy the universe at least every couple of months.”

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  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How you know the Wikipedia article is good

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    • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      didnt need the wikipedia page. soon as I read a couple pop sci articles on this I was like “welp this shit sounds dangerous it was nice to know you all”

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      • Comment105@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m about as worried about this as I am about galaxy eating monsters. Not at all, really.

        I’m more bothered by our apparently non-existent ability to detect and divert asteroids. More than that, I’m terrified of our habit of using global cataclysm as a strategic threat. But at the same time I feel like a species that acts like this probably should end themselves like that. Russian civilians consent to nuclear apocalypse.

        So yeah, not very bothered by idea of false vacuum.

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  • Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Subatomically dispersed at the speed of light is probably the best way to go. And no one would be left to morn you.

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    • FMT99@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      ♫♪♫ And we will all go together when we go ♫♪♫

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Beam be everywhere, Scotty!

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  • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Luckily, this is the epitome of that Epicurus quote:

    Why should I fear death? If I am, then death is not. If Death is, then I am not. Why should I fear that which can only exist when I do not?

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    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s not the death I’m worried about. I just don’t want to suffer leading up to it or put my family through some long drawn out ordeal watching me die.

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      • Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well good news, false vacuum decay would kill everyone on Earth instantly

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    • threeduck@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You know how when you get put under for anaesthesia, and you don’t notice the time you were gone? It’s like a cut in the tape of life.

      What if death is like that, and BAM your consciousness re-emerges billions of years in the future the moment you die.

      But your consciousness is alone. And in pitch black nothingness. Forever.

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      • Famko@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Entropy would end up taking your consciousness as well, so I doubt you’d be there, 14.3 billions years later, forever.

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      • Earflap@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This is what I think happens. You don’t experience death, you just reemerge on the other side, no matter how long it takes.

        The chances of your brain going were infinitely small (and who knows how many universes) before you were born, but it still only took 14 billion years for it to happen.

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    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, maybe it’s because we mostly fear the WAY towards death, not the end of being a thing that is. Unless we get hit by a moving train…

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    • jwt@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why should I fear death? If I am, then death is not. If Death is, then I am not

      Death will be, so we will cease to be. Sounds like he is was whistling past the graveyard with that quote…

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      • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And when you do, you no longer have to worry about it. In fact, you can’t.

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  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If our particular bubble of the universe has remained unmolested for 13.8 billion years, it is safe to assume it will continue to be for the next 1000 years.

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    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also it’s not like assuming it will collapse in the next decade will make any difference other than having a harder time enjoying the time before then.

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    • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      that’s what the vacuum aliens WANT you to think

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    • markinov@lemmygrad.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      i don’t know quantum mechanics or much about particles. I watched a video on False vacuum decay, and it says if higgs change state it might change the laws of physics

      So can’t it be that we had change of states of other particles maybe in past (billions year before life) that changed the laws of physics and so on.

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  • ladicius@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Climate change.

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    • jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Every day, when I see or hear someone driving a car. So like, all the time.

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    • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Uh yeah, I sure hope it doesn’t

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  • kunegis@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Obligatory mention of the novel [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schild's_Ladder](Schild’s Ladder) by Greg Egan.

    Such a scenario would be interesting indeed.

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    • TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      His books are always at least a little mind-bending

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      • ace_garp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        He is exceptional at writing hard sci-fi that unnerves you.

        I’m moderately certain, whichever future timeline we move to, there will be aspects of Egan’s works.

        Modern day Jules Verne, recommended to read at least one book of his.

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  • BigBenis@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Prions

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  • Pulptastic@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Metastable equilibria.

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  • nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sounds like a great reason not to bother worrying about it to me.

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  • Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Stop reading my mind!

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    welp this parallel universe goes down the drain too

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