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I remember a time where you would get multiple results from a search with no scrolling

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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨can@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

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  • akilou@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Damn. I switched to DDG like well over a year ago and thought I was just kind of putting up with it for the sake of privacy. Turns out I didn’t know how good I have it

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    • fritobugger2017@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Exactly. I’ve been using DDG for years now and when I have to use Google search for whatever reason, I am quickly reminded how crap ggl is.

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      • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I just wish DDG would finally kill their Apple Maps. Over here they’re so incredibly unusable it’s just not funny any more. I’ll take here maps before that POS.

        It’s so bad that on desktop, you can’t even go and click on alternative elements on the map without explicitly changing your search terms to them. You see them, but they’re non-interactive. So the incredibly common case “I remember the name of the restaurant next to this place” (or something similar) cannot be done on DDG, on account of getting Apple money to include their maps.

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    • hungprocess@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It shouldn’t take this long to get to imdb

      In case anyone here isn’t aware, you can directly search IMDB from DuckDuckGo by using the bang !imdb.

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      • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I can also search IMDB from IMDB.

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    • cheddar@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      DDG is moving into the same direction. I had to use ublock to hide the news block that appears when I’m searching for a movie/show to avoid spoilers.

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      • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        In fact this was one of the key features lauded about DDG in its early days, the “instant result”-boxes.

        Google kinda only went hard on them afterwards, probably seeing a good idea over at DDG because for the vast majority of people, they’re looking for answers and results, not specifically objects of type link-to-search-result. They don’t need a list of links, so long as the information they were after is reliably in those generated cards.

        See OP wanting an IMDB link, which is directly there as Google correctly assumed that’s a very very very common use case for googling the name of a movie.

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      • Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Kagi has all these options as well but everything can be disabled in the settings.

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    • modifier@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I had the identical reaction. Thanks OP for posting this repellent screenshot. So glad I changed my defaults.

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We had no idea how good we had it back then, did we?

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  • novettam@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A poll in the search results, what the heck?!

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They’re throwing shit at the wall I guess. Last week I got this in my YouTube feed:

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      • Jilanico@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Are they trying to train an AI?

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      • PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is it low pitch?

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  • olafurp@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Here’s duckduckgo result for comparison

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    • AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Here’s AskJeeves result for comparison Image

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      • Schmuppes@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s spectacularly bad.

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      • olafurp@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wow, that’s incredibly bad.

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      • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Damn, I knew Jeeves had fallen but this is actually baffling.

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    • BitsOfBeard@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Here is Kagi. It is customizable, so it will look different for everyone.

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      • TurtleTourParty@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Did you move your videos section? Mine is at the top (but I’m also on mobile)

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  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Did it spoil the movie in the suggested questions 💀

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Probably, luckily I had no interest in watching it and looked it up for other reasons.

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  • felbane@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    duckduckgo.com/?q=rise+of+the+planet+of+the+apes

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is the impetus I needed

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    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Your daily reminder that DDG also has an infinite scroll option under its settings. (Seriously, DDG’s Settings menu is so good.}

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      1 is the right number of info cards

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  • MrMobius@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Don’t worry, Google is actually getting sued for its various malpractices (paying browsers millions to be their default search engine, Google adsense putting the best bidder at the top of the search results, etc). It might even come to the US justice system ordering the breakup of various Google products into smaller independent companies.

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  • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I know this won’t be the answer people want, but to be perfectly frank if I know I want the IMDb page for a movie, I put IMDb in the query. It will put the page you want right at the top, none of that extra shit, and it will even probably predict what you’re typing before you finish.

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    • ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      separately, imdb itself has been enshittified enough that, most times, i don’t want the imdb page as a search result.

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      • morrowind@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Anyone know good alternatives?

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      imdb wasn’t really the point, that’s on me, I could have also just tapped imdb on the card at the very top. It’s the other sites that I don’t know to search for that I would like to see promoted

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  • nogooduser@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In fairness, IMDB is right there on the first info card.

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    • Angry_Autist@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As a side point: IMDB’s page is even more obtuse and unnavigable than it was 5 years ago. Literally no hotbar…

      Every front end design dev that graduated in the last decade is brain damaged

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      • nogooduser@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s Amazon’s way of working. They push the content that they want you to use over what you want to use.

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      • runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s not the individual contributors writing the website that are making these decisions, it’s people in $1000 suits, sitting on the 44th floor of a Manhattan skyrise asking “how do we make red line go up?”.

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    • moncharleskey@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I remember a time when I could get multiple search results without scrolling

      So one doesn’t count.

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      • nogooduser@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes, but their edit says that it shouldn’t take so long to get to IMDB which is what I was commenting on.

        The fact that there is only one result is awful.

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  • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It was too good and offered no financial incentive for them to continue with it. It’s better if users scroll endlessly looking for the information that used to simply be available instantly.

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be fair. All the information for the movie is right there at the top. If you wanted just info about the movie.

    The poll though… Ya… That’s kinda crazy.

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    • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’d think that if you knew the answer to the poll question, you wouldn’t have Googled the title of the movie. I just don’t understand the thought process that led to this happening.

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      • skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

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      • Glasgow@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you’ve seen a movie you wouldn’t search for it?

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  • NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tbf there’s a link to imdb on the first image

    Yeah I usually like the Google boxes in search results, but this is so excessive. Everything after and including the polls is just completely unnecessary

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  • ech@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If anyone still wants to use google without this, you can use this url, replacing ‘example’ with your search

    https://www.google.com/search?udm=14&q=example

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    • anguo@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can add it as a search engine on your browser for fewer steps. There are add-ons that can help you with that.

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  • LazaroFilm@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I switched to DuckDuckGo on all my devices and I get shocked that people can’t find anything when they search.

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Momentum’s a bitch. I’ve been using google search since I lost touch with Jeeves and that pile of dogs ran away.

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        …dogs?

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  • HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Getting results without scrolling? That day is today.

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    • Gimpydude@lemmynsfw.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Totally worth the subscription

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      • GbyBE@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I was a bit skeptical about paying for search, but after trying out the free plan, I subbed and later upgraded to the family plan. No regrets.

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  • th3dogcow@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It sucks, yes. But, if you select the “web” tab instead of the “all” tab at the top of the page, you’ll get something more akin to what you’re looking for. There’s probably even a way to script it so that it defaults to that view.

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The tab that you have to scroll past shopping to know it even exists.

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      • th3dogcow@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yep! So convenient /s

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  • baggins@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Damn the second image in your post didn’t load for me and it turned my Connect into an infinite grey screen

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I messed up the link twice in weird ways. It should be fixed now.

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      • baggins@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Y’all got a denial of service 0-day for Lemmy connect 👀

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  • soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The polls are completely idiotic but I personally find info cards to be quite helpful.

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    • Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The info cards are a cancer on the internet. They exist only so you stay on Google’s page and don’t follow a link to another site.

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      • dmention7@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They exist only so you stay on Google’s page and don’t follow a link to another site.

        That may be true, but I’d say in the neighborhood of 1/3 - 1/2 of my searches are answered by auto-compiled info cards or similar artifacts.

        Just by way of example, my wife and I were casually researching cars lately, and one of the criteria is “does the damn thing fit in our garage??” Typing “Mazda CX-9 length” and having that specific info presented immediately is immensely preferable to clicking into edmonds.com and scrolling through an entire table of specifications.

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  • Bianca_0089@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In 2005 you could get over 15 search results per page because webdevs weren’t blind and forcing their giant overscaled UI sizes on the enduser.

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  • linearchaos@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    SearXNG is the best

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    • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Man, I hate people like you, because I am constantly reminded of how I really need to get round to checking out Searx, but I never get round to it.

      (I am joking, because the only person who is putting pressure on me about this is me, and that’s because finding time to do this is something I want to do. Thank you for reminding me, even if I will keep procrastinating)

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      • linearchaos@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        NGL, it’s a pain in the ass to get it done the first time.

        Docker -> Cloudflare is a lot of learning if you don’t already have the skillset.

        And it does have issues on locale based searches, when meta searches do geo lookups, you end up on partner nodes.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But if you go to another site, Google will have to pay them when they show you adverts!

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  • Angry_Autist@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    'Member when they said ‘don’t be evil’?

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    • primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      all of us ‘you cant keep relying on corporations, they will betray you, every single corporate product you consume is basically the one ring’ open source nerds get to say the MOST satisfying “I told you so”'s. nobody cares, of course, you’ll all keep using this shit, but it feels SO good.

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      • Angry_Autist@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        open source nerds need to keep their fucking mouths shut until they deliver a end-user grade linux distro.

        It’s been 25 fuckdamn years already…

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  • sudneo@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I continue to be one of the happiest customers for Kagi, a service that I am so happy to pay (for my family as well).

    To be clear, there are some widgets that might be useful in some cases, but it should not be all you see (and it should definitely not include similar stuff as if the focus for any search is just to find more stuff to consume and please advertisers…).

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    • Subverb@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I use kagi as well and love it. Worth every dime.

      People that say they can’t see themselves paying for Search underestimate the value of clean high quality search results.

      I’m a business owner and developer of firmware for esoteric products. I need high quality, powerful searches that don’t waste my time. Kagi is great for that. I created lenses on Kagi that I can use to focus my searches, a great time saver for me.

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    • seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Kagi’s ceo statements makes me hate it

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      • sudneo@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I am not a fan of some of his ideas either, especially the ones tending towards libertarianism. Some other ideas instead are quite decent, like how he thinks companies should give back to the community. He also built a tech company without VC funding and with a good share of ownership for workers (which I think is nice), without any marketing (which I despise as industry) and generally without the predatory nature that 98% of tech companies have nowadays.

        I am sure you are referring to the Brave debacle of months back, and FWIW, I agree with his position on that particular issue. Anyway, considering that I have no ideas about the positions for the CEOs/founders of the alternatives, I think it’s still a very worthy compromise to have a good product (incl. nonfunctional qualities like privacy, ecological impact etc.).

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    • Tinks@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      100% agree. I’ve been using Kagi for a bit over a month now and I love it. My one and only complaint is business hours can be harder to find - I have to actually click into their website for it. That’s it though! Everything else is dramatically less painful in my opinion. I don’t need business hours frequently enough for it to matter though, and if needed I can use Google for that one thing.

      Kagi has been a breath of fresh air

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      • sudneo@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Completely agree, I started seeing business hours popping up lately, I know that they know it’s an area of improvement.

        It’s a premium service but it has very nice features and is a good product overall.

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  • udon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Are those the Results of the Search of the Rise of the Return of the Planet of the Apes?

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  • uienia@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I havent used google as my search engine for a year now, I use duckduckgo instead, and it has been very few times where I have longed for (old) google.

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  • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just switched to my own SearXNG instance. Won’t go back. Even did a PR for better Google Answers integration.

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  • flashgnash@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve been working on a stylus theme for all the sites I use including duckduckgo and startpage that cuts out any and all bullshit like this

    Lmk if you want a copy of it, some of the sites work on mobile too if you’re using a browser that supports extensions (Firefox)

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m intrigued.

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      • flashgnash@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s on github.com/flashgnash/material-monokai if you want to have a look. It’s a bit rough around the edges and I’ve yet to find a way to properly source control it as stylus doesn’t seem to save it to a file anywhere

        I at some point intend to split out the theme and the anti annoyance CSS into two different themes as the theme makes some pretty drastic changes

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  • b3an@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The IMDb is there at the top. Just Under the white YouTube box. It tells the rating. But if you click it goes to the IMDb page for it

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  • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But this genuinely feels sensible?

    The generated abstract includes the commonly needed links - including the IMDB you want and Rotten Tomatoes that I frequently want - and the very first result after that is Wikipedia for when you need that.

    It’s like the best abstraction so you don’t have to wade through results, correctly understanding that if you search by just the title, you probably want information of through-links to common information/review sites.

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They took it too far. A few cards can be convenient (though I feel bad for site runners) but the poll?

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