Cannot tell you how many times I have asked this question

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• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You can get huge muscles on a vegan diet.

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  • content_educator_94@thelemmy.club ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s true though

    Why are people down voting you

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    • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Only one downvote that I can see, although I don’t know if anyone banned from My server is downvoting. People banned from My server tend to be right-wing reactionaries, so that would explain it. To reactionaries (and indeed most people), facts don’t matter as much as which “side” they support. Support vegan bodybuilders, and you’re implicitly attacking meat-eating ideology. So people downvote because their meat ideology feels threatened.

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    • itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe people suspect it’s not just a vegan diet but also steroids n shit. Don’t know if steroids are vegan though.

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• OldChicoAle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Genetics, more muscle fibers per unit area than humans, lots of T, and constant foraging.

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• absentbird@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They have a long hund gut with specialized bacteria to break down cellulose, so they get way more protien from plants than humans. Horses use a similar trick.

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  • iocase@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They also don’t eat bananas primarily in the wild

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• yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Per calorie, Broccoli has as much protein as steak.

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  • Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Do you realize how much of my day would be spent eating and shitting in order to meet my macronutrient targets by consuming broccoli? I’d just be sitting around all day like some kind of gorilla.

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  • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s kind of fascinating - though it’s only about 1/10th of the amount by weight - so something like 75g of protein would need ~300g of Steak or ~3kg of Broccoli (about 10 full heads of Broccoli).

    For plant based proteins, you’re probably better off with beans.

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  • Derpenheim@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That we, as homo sapiens, will never access because we do not have the gut microbiome necessary to break down and use.

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    • yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m actually literally talking about the nutritional protein available to you, a human.

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    • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      For broccoli? No, that’s actually a fairly bioavailable protein source, especially when cooked. Even compared to high protein plant sources like beans or lentils, broccoli’s protein is more bioavailable. It’s just there’s not that much of it, and the “protein per calorie” stat is kinda cherry picked from the fact that broccoli is low carb and low fat, rather than being really high in protein.

      Either way, though, the gut microbiomes of herbivores are mainly adapted to draw out more useful carbohydrate, not more useful protein. Cellulose is so plentiful in nature that making use of all those glucose molecules is biologically rewarding.

      Plant protein bioavailability is affected by a lot of factors, including whether the food has been chopped up, peeled, cooked, etc. Human chewing and guts (especially in modern humans) are pretty inefficient for extracting nutrients from food in the natural state because we have been cooking and processing food for millions of years.

      So yeah. Cows have complicated guts for digesting cellulose and extracting amino acids from chloroplasts, and innate chewing behaviors that mechanically process grass into mush, but we have knives and fire to do more of that stuff outside of our bodies. And cattle pick and choose grasses (including high protein leafy legumes like clover or alfalfa) depending on their own needs, as well.

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    • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Skill issue

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  • Dearth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    No kidding? Is this true of other brassicacea?

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    • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Broccoli stands out a bit. Cabbage and cauliflower and kohlrabi and bok choy don’t have the same protein ratio, because other brassicas are generally higher in carbs, so that their protein per calorie is lower (with more calories from carbs rather than protein).

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  • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    broccoli doesn’t look as calorie dense as steak though.

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• Photonic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Awww shit guess it’s time for Bananamaxxing!

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  • Gork@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve been beanmaxxing

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  • LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hyperkalemia

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    • davidagain@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34225517

      But for a healthy person, “it would be impossible to overdose on bananas,” says Collins. "You would probably need around 400 bananas a day to build up the kind of potassium levels that would cause your heart to stop beating… Bananas are not dangerous - and in fact they are, and always have been, very good for you."

      Adults should consume about 3,500mg of potassium per day, according to the UK’s National Health Service. The average banana, weighing 125g, contains 450mg of potassium, meaning a healthy person can consume at least seven-and-half bananas before reaching the recommended level.

      There are some people who should steer clear of foods that are high in potassium though, warns Collins - those with kidney disease.

      “These patients have a very low kidney function which can potentially see a build-up of harmful potassium levels in their blood stream because they can’t get rid of the mineral when they pass urine,” she says. “So in theory it is possible for someone with kidney disease to die of a high blood potassium level if they decided to consume lots of different food types rich in the mineral.”

      She once had a patient on dialysis who had a heart attack after eating too many tomatoes - another fruit rich in potassium. His kidneys had already stopped working so he was unable to get rid of the excess.

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    • Photonic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Radioactivity

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  • PizzaLamp25@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Banana Island time 🍌

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• angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  People have a muscle mass regulating hormone that prevents us from developing huge muscles easily.

  Also gorillas don’t eat bananas in the wild, true banana species all come from Asia. The closest they could get is Ensete ventricosum.

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  • qualia@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Apparently looks like this.

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    • angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wonder what it tastes like.

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• exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Other comments are about how gorillas have guts adapted for digesting lots of vegetation. And that’s true. But at its core, it’s just that gorillas actually do eat a ton of protein.

  They eat like 30 kg of food per day for 5000 calories, about 25% of which is from protein. That’s more than 300 grams of protein per day.

  Nothing they eat is super calorie dense, but the lack of density also means they need to eat all day. And as it turns out, the leaves they eat tend to be pretty high in protein.

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  • anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Weird that every time you see a gorilla though, he’s just sitting there looking like a jacked freaking gorilla, not doing a dang thing.

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    • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah like not working out or anything. I can sit around eating all day too, but my muscles just wither away.

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• tacosanonymous@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Cows and Kangaroos are pretty jacked too. Wouldn’t want their palettes or diets though.

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Do you even Moo, bro?

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    • Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Bro did not skip neck day.

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Realistically I would say they don’t eat just bananas.

  But I’m also wondering: How many bananas a day do you eat right now? Maybe the key is a banana heavy diet.

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  • SailorFuzz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Potassiumaxxxing

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Remember to balance it with low sodium. Otherwise you’ll have too many electrolytes

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  • luthis@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Trust me, do not do this. You will regret it. 2 bananas per day is enough

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• Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Genetics.

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• imadethis@fedinsfw.app ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You ever see the gut of a gorilla? They have much better mechanisms and microbiota to get all their nutrients from plants than we could dream of.

  Plus they build muscle by all the other things people mention, like genetics and weight lifting (their own mass).

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  • Karmanopoly@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Could we get a a fecal transplant from a gorilla and then get all muscley

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    • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Time for a new superhero backstory

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• someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They have huge guts. We have tiny guts.

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  • Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Speak for yourself.

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• dismay3915@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Also, their testosterone levels are through the roof

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• ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Built different.

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• Karmanopoly@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Bamboo bro

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• TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They’re also swinging from vines, too.

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