Submitted 2 weeks ago by Karmanopoly@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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You get people off drugs by building a society where people aren’t being oppressed and used as slaves. Not by putting them in jail and making their life worse.
Kids on the other hand aren’t fully mature and don’t realize that ‘just’ 30mph on a scooter can lead to a deadly crash pretty easily
Teach the kids to use a scooter properly, all across asia children ride electrics without incident, but I am constantly hearing how dangerous they are back in America where barely anyone rides scooters.
Is that how Singapore got rid of their drug problems?
Yeah, when I think Singapore, I think utopia with no inequality or social pressures. The only thing bad is those pesky druggies that do simply because they’re bad people and want to do the bad drugs.
There are no drugs in bar sing se obviously.
Probably by caning them when they spit their gum on the ground.
Both are stupid.
Thats what makes this an A tier shitpost.
I'm willing to concede I have it wrong but I wouldn't take it seriously. Just Karmanopoly goofing around with quality bait.
Indeed, very good stuff. Make my blood boil.
All research and successful drug policy shows that treatment should be increased And law enforcement decreased while abolishing mandatory minimum sentences
Dont fight drug use, fight drug distribution and the root problems why people are on the street taking drugs
Follow the money
Drug use is a social problem. If I offered you a huge bag of fentanyl for free right now, would you take it? What conditions in your life would make you more likely to accept it? Lets address the things which cause those conditions for other people.
Cops “going after” drug addicts? Like giving them help and treating them like humans?
I hate the police like everybody elese, but why huntig addicts? They do nothing except to themself… But a 12yo on a scooter is mostly dangerous.
Addicts will steal your shit to pay for their drugs
So tell the police officers to go after thieves‽
OP, did a cop give you a ticket for riding a scooter?
No they gave a 12 yr old a ticket… Well actually hey gave it to his father
Maybe they shouldn’t have been doing something illegal. 🤔
Well, sorry they gave your dad a ticket
So they did something good for once: traffic education.
So … your classmate?
Remember that time we legalized cannabis and it had literally zero impact on society? Let’s do that with the rest of them too.
Some of them shouldn’t be used by anyone.
Krokadil comes to mind. Flocka…
Harm reduction and rehab centers where they can use in a safe environment is how you really help people addicted to drugs. Instead of locking them in a cage and pretending they don’t exist.
ITT: OP wanting the cops to go after people doing illegal things, but only the illegal things that OP agrees with.
OP has no empathy and insists on being downvoted to hell rather than recognizing that they’re being a heartless hypocrite.
I mean, they shouldn’t be going after drug addicts either.
Why would drug addicts give up their dealers? For one, they still need someone to distribute them drugs. Secondly snitching out dealers is pretty dangerous. Thirdly, why? What incentive does an addict have? Not to go to prison? That is often a better choice than staying on the streets. In prison at least you have a place to sleep, it’s warm and you get food three times a day. I don’t know the prison conditions in Canada. But where I live, I’d a hundred percent rather go to prison than stay on the street.
What if it was life in prison?
Places like Singapore don’t have drug problems because they deal with it like it should be
Why not just shoot everyone who ever thought the word “weed” in the head? That’ll clearly improve society. Then your kid can finally kickflip their scooter at 30mph and kill an elderly person in peace.
Freedom will always lead to more crime. If we want freedom, we will have to accept crime.
Also just because something is not visible, it does not mean it’s not there. China for example appears to have no homelessness, but that is simply untrue. It has a major problem, but makes sure the majority of people and tourists don’t get to see it. Singapur may not in fact have a drug problem, but if that is due to the radical approach of criminilisation or due to broad wealth of most inhabitants cannot be seen from outside.
Also all studies show that harsh punishments are actually detrimental to battling criminal behaviour.
Drug problem is a healthcare issue, not a crime issue.
Counterpoint: parents should be given tickets for endangering their child’s lives by giving them something that can cause death or greivous injury - calling it a “toy” that goes 30+ mph ridden on public roads with no training or license.
One of these days it’s going to be a lawmakers kid that is going to get turned into a meat crayon. Then we might just get some reasonable legislation. I hate that it pretty much has to come down to many children dying for meaningful change to take place.
USA reports 11 deaths under 16 and Canada 10
So 21 deaths in what 15 or 20 years these have been around
Probably around 1 per year
How many kids have been killed by drug users or drug dealers… probably more than 1 per Year
USA alone has so many drug related shootings they probably can’t even reliably track how many kids get shot
Scooters aren’t inherently more dangerous. But people don’t take their safety seriously. They don’t wear helmets and protection. Resulting in more injuries and TBIs.
ACAB includes OP
Why would they give 12y old tickets? Don’t they have any newer ones?
They don’t update the forms often. Huge issue with the printer.
Well if they would fix traffic infrastructure to support bicycles and other alternative transports they would have less of a problem with this.
in this case the police are correct
this is a weird comparison
there are real criminals out there and OP chose drug addicts, a crime which by itself is just minding your own business
fuck, go after the drivers endangering countless people every day. far more dangerous than drug addicts that commit crimes that affect other people
Leave the drug addicts alone!
Also legalize it man. By it I mean pretty much everything. Yowza daddy-o.
This ragebate works like a charm. Ken got a coppycat.
Truly shit take lmao
I wish.
Drug consumption should never be criminalized. And I say this as someone who doesn’t even drink alcohol.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Trying to combat drug addiction through policing has been proven ineffective time and time again. You may want to rethink that one.
f314@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Came to say this! Drug addicts need help, not jail. Sure, if they commit a crime police should be involved, but it’s not going to cure their addiction!
Karmanopoly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Doing drugs is a crime tho.
MintyFresh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Idk. I’m a public bus driver, am in pretty consistent contact with drug users. Not to mention living in amongst them in the poorer areas of tow. I’m not saying we should arrest them and give them lengthy sentences, but just leaving them on the street ain’t working out.
I think a mandatory “time out” in a facility is in order. At least long enough to work the drugs out of their system. Maybe then they can try for a better way with a little clearer head.
But some days it feels like I’m living in a post apocalypse mad Max type place. It’s bullshit that they’re allowed to just trash anyplace they are. There’s what’s best for them, and there’s what’s best for the rest of us. There’s gotta be something done.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Also the cops handing out traffic tickets, and the cops doing narcotics investigations are different people.
trebach@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This isn’t new either. A song was written about it 25 years ago: www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4L20t8Dvlg
mEEGal@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
love me some oldschool SOAD songs
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I read it as they are both bad things the police enjoys, but seeing OPs comments I don’t think that was the intent.
Karmanopoly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you arrest the users they’ll give up the dealers
That’s policing 101
chunk6235@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
FTFY
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Arresting drug addicts in the war on drugs is part of how the US ended up with 25% of it’s population imprisoned. End result? Same amount of drugs.
Criminalizing drug use does literally nothing except lead to the death of democracy.
DScratch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
And is ineffective. Didn’t you watch The Wire?
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ok bootlicker
marcos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That widely known to not work that way.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
No no no. This is just building a prison pipeline.