Suddenly a lot of those metaphors make a lot more sense 😭
Forensic Poetry
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Jaimesmith@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Draconic_NEO@mander.xyz 21 hours ago
Yeah before people in America made a big stink about it and said it’lll turn you crazy or into a mexican, or whatever racist unscientific garbage excuse they made to start a moral panic to make it illegal, people smoked or otherwise consumed cannabis. It was just normal. The same way people consume drugs like coffee today, yes coffee is a drug.
DioramaOfShit@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
It was the blacks getting the white women high that did it
LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Hemp was very common back then for many uses. We have cheap cotton and polyester now.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
It does mean that though, even low potency stuff like the plants they grow specifically to make rope still have varying levels of cannabinoids in them including THC, also that’s literally the only reason to bother smoking it, might as well pack a bowl with hay otherwise
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well, in the context of a clay pipe, the evidence suggest mary Jane, not hemp cloth.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Ohhh pipe not plumbing pipe
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
It was in a pipe though?
LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Sorry, I read it as plumbing pipe for some reason.
Nangijala@feddit.dk 1 day ago
Ignoramus here: what’s the difference?
UNY0N@feddit.org 1 day ago
The cannabis plant when left to itself doesn’t create much THC (which is what gets you high), but it is very useful for making rope and clothing, as well as oil and other products. Only when you make sure that you only have female plants (and take care of them in a certain way) do they produce lots of THC.
So just because the plant is growing somewhere doesn’t mean that someone is smoking it.
Rothe@piefed.social 1 day ago
The active drug part of the plant is the resin found at the flowers of the female hemp plant, created during pollination season. There is neglible amounts of THC in the rest of the plant, as in basically nothing. So you would only get high if you smoked that particular part of the plant, not the rest. So sailors could have saved on tobacco by using the dried leaves of the harvested hemp plants they imported for rope, but it wouldn’t have made them stoned in the slightest.
Zwiebel@feddit.org 1 day ago
To add, hemp was farmed for it’s fibers, to make rope and fabric
oeuf@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
So he was smoking hemp?
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I always hated Shakespeare, mostly because of how it’s taught.
Imagine reading about Quinten Tarantino in the future, they study his methods, his dialogue and cinematography, but they hand you his screenplays and ask you to analyze them. Not once actually showing you one of his movies.
In high school they tried to make me read all that nonsense and I had no idea what any of it meant. As an adult i saw a play as it was meant, and it gave me much more context and visual understanding. I still don’t get why he wrote like that, I prefer clear language over poetry, but I at least appreciated it way more than i did as a kid being forced to read
groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 day ago
Reading Shakespeare is torture. That is why we make actors do it for us.
DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com 6 hours ago
Tarantino screenplays are good fun to read though
remotedev@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
*zoom in to her feet*
Zetta@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Do you think the future teachers will have a section dedicated to feet in Tarantino movies??? 🤨
Yosmonkol@piefed.social 1 day ago
Here’s the paper for anyone interested. TLDR: In 2001 cocain residue was found alongside tobacco and hemp residue. There were also refrences to drugs in art and poems that the author supposes are cocain and cannabis. Fastwarward to 2023 when traces of cocain THC & CBD were found in bones from Milan. Today the author of the 2001 study is using the 2023 results to support his findings. As far as I can tell no one else has tried to test the pipe fragments.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Imagine it was all tested in the lab, contaminated by the same coked up pothead lab tech.
GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Wait, how can that be right? Shakespeare had access to coca leaves and was smoking them? I know it’s not literally impossible but it seems unlikely…
Yosmonkol@piefed.social 1 day ago
Francis Thackeray, in his 2025 article, suggests Sir Francis Drake could have acquired it when sailing in the area. Since traces of it were also discovered in 1600s Milan its possible that the spanish were circulating it. This 2024 study discusses how the Spanish at least knew of it as early as 1499.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Drugs were always very common through all the history, Cannabis was used until the 20th century as “tobaco for the poor”, apart of Cannabis also funghi and other psycho active plants known in Europe in the middle age and before, eg by artists as inspiration.
Rothe@piefed.social 1 day ago
Cannabis was used until the 20th century as “tobaco for the poor”
No, it wasn’t.
myotheraccount@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It was, because tobacco was very expensive in europe (being a colonial good), and cannabis was widely available (as a byproduct of the fabric and rope industry). Once smoking became fashionable, people looked for ways to smoke even if they couldn’t afford tobacco. Cannabis was a popular replacement.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 day ago
sure it was! it left all the pure Columbian cocaine for the Tudors.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 23 hours ago
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
How many millions of brilliant people have been executed over the drug war? Depending on how you classify “drug war” (like the wars over opium, or chocolate for that matter), they have been murdering people over this for centuries (whether to push or pull).
… and they still do today. It’s an abomination, our modern version of the witch hunt.
Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world 1 day ago
As a former poet, this is 10000% accurate
JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Weed —> iambic pentameter
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 day ago
i’m not what you’d call a poet, i handle the instruments, but i have this thing where for example the word for cat gets stuck between your brain and your tongue so you say claws cuddler or something like that (sorry, coffee is brewing you don’t get a good one yet) and when a good one pops out you get good poetry. i blame the drugs.
anyhow2503@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I really hate the sentiment that you must be under the influence of something to reach a certain level of creativity. Some artists have found success with this and that’s fine, but it is not a requirement. Not even for the most surreal and otherworldly art.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Also there are other ways to poke that side of brain. Most of the good abstract art I write was under sleep derivation.
Then again, I mainly write code, but it was still up to interpretation what that snippet is even supposed to do.
Diurnambule@jlai.lu 1 day ago
I noticed the same, when tired my brain take shortcuts and is far better at fast solving, but I lack the long view in this state. Brains are amazingly interesting.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I write my best when I’m depressed. I’m okay with finding alternative routes for that, though weed isn’t one of them. I find weed helps me when I’m doing visual art, but when writing? Weed practically renders me incapable.
I now understand why writers’ usual substances of choice are alcohol and caffeine.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
also shakespeare is incredibly specific. the example I like to use is the famous
“Friends, Romans, Countrymen, Lend me your ears!”
Which takes place in a crowded marketplace.
Count the syllables: 1 (friends), 2, (romans), 3 (countrymen), 4 (lend me your ears)
it’s a line in which the meter matches the intent
Bill will also often add an eleventh unstressed syllable to his dialogue lines if he wants a character to seem vulnerable or weak, indicating they have fallen off meter because of their inner
very occasionally he does an eleventh STRESSED syllable when a character is being especially dominating and murderous.
The other famous examples is when a peasant or very low status character speaks, it won’t be in verse at all, but plain prose.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 day ago
dammit i’m low on coffee and i’m thinking Bill? Bill who? Watterson? Why are we talking calvin and hobbes?
i’m going to go put a sticky note on my screen that says SHAKESBEEF and make some coffee brb
Diurnambule@jlai.lu 1 day ago
Dépend, if you are ADHD canabis is an amazing way to increase the symptom and trigger an hyperfocus while going at 200% on all directions, great for a créativity boost. Whole reducing canabis and increasing active plant like caféine help reduce the symptom and make it easy to speak to neuro-typical. May be he had ADD or ADHD and used this to trigger what was called transe.
neograymatter@fedinsfw.app 1 day ago
THC reacts strangely with my ADHD, It triggers some sort of dysphoria where I end up frustrated and angry that my brain/body isnt acting the way I want it to respond .
thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 1 day ago
so you’re saying i should stop drinking coffee when I wake up and instead just smoke a bowl? I feel like I’m not as creative as I used to be, and my drug of choice has been coffee for the past 15 years…
Lemming6969@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
This is wrong. You cannot imagine what you cannot imagine. Psychedelics definitely allow you to imagine what you previously could not.