By the way this is NOT a new Firefox logo. It’s just the fox that may be used in other parts of the UI like this:
The actual logo remains unchanged.
Good luck figuring it out since it also doesn’t come with man pages
Submitted 4 weeks ago by cannedtuna@lemmy.world to memes@sopuli.xyz
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bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 weeks ago
cannedtuna@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Solid sleuthing there. Edited the post to include your context.
MrKoyun@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Its to funny how whenever a Mozilla brand related thing happens its clarified that the firefox logo is not being changed. In no other context of a product receiving a new mascot would a clarification be needed that the logo is still the same.
ApertureUA@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
Not on topic but sure do wonder why they silently pulled the Dino 2 years (I think?) prior and made the browser look boring. I guess it was apart of the master plan to shove a new mascot there and make media attention, + furry bait.
Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
The dino represents Mozilla, not Firefox itself. And yes, for a while, Mozilla didn’t have the dino in its official branding, but it’s now back in there. The flag is a dino head. As per usual, significantly more drama was made about them “removing” the dino than it was worth.
flamingos@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Firefox is now exclusive to ternary computers.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No, Mozilla has seen the future of computing. (CS/CE, don’t watch if you don’t want to be frustrated.)
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
What if… hear me out… what if we remove the focus on gender altogether? What if we stop engendering things that don’t have genders? Like logos… and behavioral attributes…
SaraTonin@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Since Mozilla actually didn’t and the post is based on a lie, I’ll say congratulations, your reaction is almost certainly what they were hoping for
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
You don’t think people childishly over anthropomorphizes a lot these days?
axx@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
It’s a mascot, not a logo. So it having a gender isn’t strange.
Also, since its pronouns are (quoting the announcement blog post) “he/him, they/them, she/her, and it” that is very open and not rather post-gender, in my opinion. The focus in the announcement is not on thee mascot’s gender in fact.
NostraDavid@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Just don’t go as extreme as trying to de-gender languages, like Spanish, which is a gendered language (as are several others):
There is no latinx, only latina and latino. Whoever uses latinx unironically can fuck right off, for being an ignorance cringelord.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Waterfox needs to catch up with a gender-fluid fox
anugeshtu@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Wait, there is a Waterfox? Is there also an Earth and Air fox? Then we could have an AvatarFox!
theKman@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Waterfox used to have a fox in the logo but Mozilla didn’t like that so waterfox removed the fox after many threats from Mozilla
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Isn’t the old mascot/logo completely non-gendered already?
markz@suppo.fi 4 weeks ago
There was nothing like that with the old fox-that-is-on-fire, so I guess mozilla is making a statement by pointing it out.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 weeks ago
Except there’s basically nowhere that Mozilla actually does. The post is misinformation
blujan@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
Except it’s not pointing it out, OP is
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I kinda wish that they had pointed it out, but they didn’t.
normonator@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
That’s stupid, it was genderless before until they brought it up.
Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Mozilla didn’t bring it up. The story is made up by right-wing trolls.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
The old one was also non-binary. Prove me wrong.
(Honestly, I just don’t care. Load the web page and render some JavaScript already)
Xatolos@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
Just search for “Firefox Chan”. And maybe keep on SafeSearch too…
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
If you’ve found a non-binary one then I’d love to see what you’re running it on.
noughtnaut@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Old Russian trinary hardware? That would be quite an achievement!
laserm@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Malbolge
Or analog computing with opamps
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
Are telling me they fired the previous mascot to hire a gender minority? Smh
kshade@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s a fox. I like the fox.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Its actually a red panda iirc
kshade@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Firefox is another name for red panda, but the Firefox browser has always used foxes as logo/mascots.
themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Has anyone even thought about the gender of the original?
KillerWhale@orcas.enjoying.yachts 4 weeks ago
Everyone knows the original was a hetro white male.
0x0@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Why would you even bother?
artifex@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
mascots gender says
It’s a fucking red panda.
MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Do they not have genders?
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s actually a pretty complex question. Are they even capable of conceptualizing their own internal model of themselves as it compares to their species’ gender norms?
Since they’re not social species, I’d be very surprised if they could.
markz@suppo.fi 4 weeks ago
I never knew or thought about the old one’s gender.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
It uses qubits sorry. Get a quantum computer loser
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
At risk of being abrasive…
I see blue checkmarks, I downvote. Nothing personal. But I don’t want to support that even indirectly.
nightlily@leminal.space 4 weeks ago
Good instinct. Pirat_Nation is a grifter/ragebaiting account. No one should be giving him visibility.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I mean, yeah. It’s a blue checkmark account.
At this point, if you’re paying for extra engagement on Twitter, that is beyond “benefit of the doubt.”
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Eh at this point I’m just sick and fucking tired watching sexuality become nothing but marketing bait. People’s sexuality and gender are becoming nothing but a two cent market gimmick and it’s fucking insulting.
This isn’t cool representation! It’s hey lgbtq people your stupid and fucking easy. Look we can use the right words. Trust us and buy our shit.
It’s just the fucking corporatization of rainbows in June all over again.
NostraDavid@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
watching sexuality become nothing but marketing bait.
This is what I figured what would happen once people started pushing for more explicit sexuality acceptance. This is the bed they made.
Trust us and buy our shit.
This is also due to people inside said corporations pushing for this shit due to ideological reasons.
*some LGBT:* Give us the positive attention and validation that we crave! *Large Corporations, seeing opportunities:* OK *some LGBT:* No, not like that!
Again, welcome to their bed.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s not just corporations. It’s influencer-grifters like Pirat_Nation.
…And, to be blunt, reposters who further spread the ragebait like OP.
The platforms are what facilitate marketing bait.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“Becoming” as though “sex sells” hasn’t been a thing for literally as long as we’ve had the concept of commerce…
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Yeah agree
It’s a fucking fox, why does it need to have a specific gender? It was genderless by default they don’t need to announce it one way or another, other than to pander to people.
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Non-binary PC is just a quantum computer innit?
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 4 weeks ago
No, ternary exists. We could have built computers with triodes.
slothrop@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
I feel that you’re stringing us along with that theory.
Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
There’s also analog computers: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer
Alas, they got largely displaced by digital computers…
heliotrope@retrofed.com 4 weeks ago
I have a friend IRL called Kit, who also happens to use they/them pronouns.
foodandart@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Kit looks more she/her than the OG icon.
Hmm… …the silliness continues.
tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Distraction from being a shit corporation.
Jaegeras@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Who cares? Are gonna label the Michelin Man next?
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
Because it was what before? Why do we care about the gender identity of the fox mascot of a web browser?
Don’t answer, please
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Okay, I know that this is supposed to be a riff, but that non-binary line is fucking hilarious.
Evotech@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Don’t tell the furries
bibbasa@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
all logos require genders
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
nb(short for nota bene) would actually be a good name for a modern replacement for themancommand 😂atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
does this mean nonbinary people foxes/red pandas have fire bending?
Allero@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
Where do y’all take info on pronouns?
Haven’t seen anything in the official announcement: blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/meet-kit/
socsa@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
It’s not just a binary. It’s a BLOB!
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
So they just laid off a bunch of developers from lack of funding but they have budget for this? When the fucking logo didn’t have a gender to begin with because it’s a fucking logo? Did their AI tell them this was a good idea.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 4 weeks ago
The gender orientation of the firefox logo is something I haven’t thought about ever.
What’s the point of this?
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 weeks ago
The point is that you’ve fallen for some idiots on X making up culture war bullshit.
Kit’s supposed pronouns aren’t mentioned by Mozilla anywhere in any Mozilla announcements.
One news site attributes this quote to Mozilla
That’s the one and only place that even remotely mentions it as far as I can tell. And it’s not even a statement that it’s NB or they/them… More like it’s a fictional mascot call it what you want.
AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Mozilla uses “they’re” to refer to Kit, but other than that there’s no explicit statement at all.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 4 weeks ago
I just read the screenshot lol
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Jesus, it’s Clippy all over again.
wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
True, it was just “a fox” for me for far. I didn’t really care about the gender of a drawing. I guess it is a good awareness move though
errer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Feels like a publicity stunt more than a genuine attempt to include non-binary people.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 4 weeks ago
To me, this feels more like a PR move than an awareness move. Kind of like: “We don’t wanna do anything substantial so uuuuh let’s just make our logo non-binary”.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It’s a s***** awareness move. It’s just a marketing ploy.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s a distraction from the real important issue, which is…
…what does the fox say? /j
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Wha-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow?!
Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
Most people default to “this entity is male” without more context. I do it too, it’s a bit of an issue I try to be aware of but regularly fail. Male is default, female is marked; that’s why the stereotypical “girl” character in video games is just the “boy” character but with eye lashes and lips and maybe high heels.
So I can see this as making the non-genderedness explicit.
DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
Its a fucking cartoon logo, I’ve never once thought about its gender identity or called it any gender for that matter. I click on it, and that’s the extent of my interaction or consideration.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 4 weeks ago
I have a hard time wrapping my head about this sentence. I don’t think about the gender of any entity without more context because it’s usually completely irrelevant.
So, I didn’t grow up in an english speaking country, but if I hear “the baker” I don’t automatically assume it’s a man. I think it’s a person that bakes bread and pastry. The same with “the mechanic”, “the engineer”, etc. It’s all - by default - a person.
Now, if we were to talk german, there is actually a difference. As “the baker”, for example, we have “Bäcker” as Male and “Bäckerin” as female. The reason why male is “the default” in german is because it’s shorter. That’s it. If you say “Der Bäcker”, it’s as you’d say “the baker” in english, you don’t automatically make an assumption about the gender. If you say “Die Bäckerin”, you are referring to a female baker specifically.
Honestly this feels more like a mockery of people that identify as non-binary than raising any kind of awareness. Kinda has some “apache combat helicopter” vibes.
ttyybb@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
If not binary then how made of 1s and 0s?
Nima@leminal.space 4 weeks ago
to be honest, 99% of people don’t even think about gender at all without being prompted to. especially when it comes to mascots like the firefox logo. its a browser.
this seems like a PR move by mozilla and nothing more.
FellowHuman@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That highly depends on the language.
Example in Czech: Generic Fox (Liška) is a girl Generic Wolf (Vlk) is a boy
Because our words themself have genders. Fox: Liška (girl) Lišák (boy) but default if you don’t knoe the sex of the animal is in this case the girl version.
This differs per language. And in german (if I’m not mistaken) fox is Der Fuchs, so boy.
I’m using boy/girl instead of male/female, because … I don’t know, that is how I think about it.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Well, if I was creating a mascot, and I didn’t want to think about their gender orientation… they/them pronouns are what I would use. Mozilla actually didn’t announce the mascot’s gender. People just saw they/them pronouns and made the inference from there.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
There’s no point. It’s just some dumb manager fixated over gender identity spreading their ideology
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Somebody at the Mozilla foundation justifying their pointless job.
WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
What’s more is the non binary fox somehow seems more binary.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The point is corporations have realizing lgbtq people are fucking just as retarded and easy to manipulate as everyone else
You say they/them and sell shit to a new demographic. It’s the same shit as all the rainbow fucking crap in June.
There’s no actual representation happening here. It’s all just shallow bullshit to sell you shit and manipulate you.