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  • ThermonuclearHoxha@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    This is why I macrodose botox, which is grounded in real science, and proven to actually be fatal.

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  • nightshade@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m a personal trainer with certifications in fitness nutrition (I’m not a dietitian, those are actual licensed medical practitioners you go to see about dietary needs. I can legally provide guidelines, but I can’t prescribe meal plans.)

    Our body is great at getting rid of toxins and waste products. It’s almost as if we’ve evolved ways of dealing with such things. Anyone talking about “toxins” and “waste products” as if they’re ‘stuck’ in your body is either very ignorant, or trying to sell you snake oil. Probably both. I’ve seen a lot of it, especially in my profession. People making up bullshit to sound knowledgeable and sell you something you don’t need. And yeah, a lot of trainers are just as ignorant and just trying to sell you something you don’t need.

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    • waigl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      There are bio-accumulative toxins that really do get stuck in your body. Lead is a good example. Not that the supposed cures being peddled by these people can actually do anything about those.

      Also, for the normal kind of toxin, the biggest factor keeping the levels in your body high is continued intake. Reducing that totally makes sense. However, you need to first have a real, based on science, understanding of what those toxins are in the first place and not just randomly blame junk food or 5G radiation, and it needs to be a permanent life style change. A two week “cleanse” does nothing. A juice will not detoxify you. (Depending on the juice, especially how filtered and how sugary it is, it may be healthy for other reasons. Standard orange juice is not, it’s way too sugary.)

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      • nightshade@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        You make good points. I guess what I really wanted to say is that 90% of the time when people talk about toxins and try to offer up a solution, they don’t even know what they’re trying to talk about. There certainly are substances that bio-accumulate. And as you say, understanding what is actually there, what can be measured, what is problematic, and then reducing intake should be key in solving the issue.

        Another thing I think is important to understand is that the science is continually evolving. I’ve encountered plenty of doctors who insist you should eliminate saturated fat from your diet as much as you can, and that’s key to reducing your odds of heart disease. This is the old hypothetical model of heart disease. Modern studies tend not to agree. But people are still being told the same old things.

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  • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨38⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    But life is an RPG and you get buffs from potions you make up. It’s always stuff that’s fun and easy too these fads are never hard graft or embracing simple balanced diets.

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  • ViatorOmnium@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Pseudo-dermatology is also not very far away. The gap between what dermatologists and influencers say would be hilarious if gullible teenagers weren’t spending ridiculous amounts of money ruining their own skin.

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    • Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      The one that had me cry-laughing was the “sun your genitals” fad that lasted what, a week?

      I lost a ton of weight and that gave me the courage to go to the nude beach. That day I got exactly 30 seconds of sun on my cock and that was enough to sunburn my knob. Itch/burn for days. There’s a reason it’s known as *where the sun don’t shine". Can’t imagine what it was like for the dopes that gave themselves 15 minutes under the Cali sun.

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      • Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        A lot of people go to nude beaches often and don’t have that problem. Did you use sunscreen?

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  • 01011@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Shout out to “alkaline water”.

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    • Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I loved it when Gwyneth Paltrow said she drinks alkaline water for the health benefits… with a slice of lemon.

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  • U7826391786239@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    i lost ~50 lb last year just by intermittent fasting and walking more. actually i stopped eating processed junk too

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    • AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Almost like the only “scientific knowledge” you need is to burn more and take in less.

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      • Tiresia@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        “Just stop being depressed and enjoy life”.

        People are overweight because something in their diet, psychology or physiology overrides the natural desire to stop eating when they’ve had enough calories. As long as that thing isn’t addressed, trying to use willpower to overcome it can easily lead to burnout and disappointment. Sometimes raw willpower works, but most people who are overweight have tried that and found it doesn’t work for them.

        Those people aren’t failures, they just happened to have a problem that didn’t eliminate itself when using willpower. If your problem is the chemicals in fast food, then stopping fast food by willpower can solve things, but if your problem is pica for some vitamin deficiency than stopping fast food by willpower will not solve things. People that stop by willpower alone are lucky, nothing more.

        So most people who are overweight do in fact need more scientific knowledge, or better environments, or both. A pedestrian-murdering hellscape isn’t great for getting enough exercise. Micronutrients, letting your stomach rest, avoiding blood sugar spikes and dips, metabolism-affecting drugs like caffeine, stress eating, etc can all affect things.

        And because people can’t just get up and move to a pedestrian-friendly area, or because vegetables are twice as expensive as meat per calorie, or because their job requires them to sit still for eight hours, they want to try the messy imperfect solutions that do as much as possible in their limited environment.

        I can well believe that intermittent fasting works better than “burn more eat less” for someone with the unnatural lifestyle of sitting in an office chair for hours straight. The traditional 3 meal structure was built on a society where people did lots of physical labor throughout the day every day, so just trying to eat less in those 3 meals doesn’t change the fact that your body needs far fewer calories at certain times than that diet frees up, and the same goes for exercising outside of work hours.

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      • homoludens@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        That’s a bit like saying “In order to run faster, you need to make longer steps and more steps per minute”. It’s obviously true, but the hard part is how to do that.

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      • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

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    • Flyberius@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      That’s just being healthy. I’d hardly call that a fad diet

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  • DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I know people who refuse to eat gluten even though no doctor told them to.

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    • Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨58⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I don’t eat gluten because it provokes my auto immune disorder and makes my psoriasis bloom.

      25 years of doctors telling me that diet cannot influence the condition(s) while prescribing progressively more intense medications. They would sarcastically smirk when I asked… Ohohoho silly patient why would you ask such a dumb question. Not just GPs but Dermatologists too.

      I found out by accident when I taught myself to cook and accidentally cut out wheat and barley.

      Lots of people are intolerant but don’t realize. Many people realize and cut it out of their lives, then have to deal with the sarcasm/cynicism/ignorance of others.

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      • nightshade@piefed.social ⁨47⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        I think it’s important to know that doctors don’t always know best. I made a post a little higher up about the saturated fat hypothesis with regards to heart disease. Many people get set in their ways, whether they have a “Dr.” in front of their names or not. I’m just a lowly trainer, and I have to take continuing education courses so I’m keeping pace with the latest research and best practices. I think it’s only fair that all doctors be forced to stay updated as well.

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    • Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨49⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I put this one on the shelf next to the MSG.

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    • Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨55⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Feeling bad eating sweetened white bread and thinking gluten is the problem…

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      • xep@discuss.online ⁨7⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        They could both be problems. White bread by itself, even without being sweetened, is still very high in carbohydrates which turns into glucose in the body.

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  • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    The number of people that don’t believe that taking in fewer calories than you put out will cause you to lose weight still astounds me. Your body isn’t some magic device that doesn’t have to obey the laws of physics.

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    • Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨46⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Some people mistake healthier with less calories.

      I switched from a box of Little Debbie’s a day to a bag of trail mix! Why can’t I lose weight?

      That olive oil you’re using is good for you, sure, but it’s not a freebee. It has calories. Things like this are often not even noticed or counted.

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    • bizarroland@lemmy.world ⁨51⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I’ll just keep repeating this, but your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate) is not scientifically set in stone.

      While it’s accurate for I would say 90% of the population, rough estimate, there are many things that can cause your BMR to not be accurate, like thyroid issues or lack of musculature due to sedentary lifestyle or due to hormone imbalances or any number of myriad things.

      I went and had mine tested and it cost me I believe $70 at a sports medicine place, and I burn approximately 200 calories less than my BMR chart says that I should.

      So if I wanted to maintain my weight, and I ate the calories the internet says that I should every day, I would actually gain almost 20 lbs a year (a nice rough estimate is every 10 calories a day you cut from your diet you lose one pound a year).

      And as I am working on losing weight, and I’m eating 500 calories under my BMR, I’m actually only eating 300 calories under my true BMR, which means my weight loss is incredibly slow.

      So yes, while calories and calories out is true, there are external factors that make it difficult to get accurate numbers to compare against.

      Therefore calories in calories out is much simpler to say than it is to do for some percentage of the population.

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      • Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Getting the numbers in practice can be difficult but that’s not the same as saying that CI/CO is bullshit, as many people do sho don’t understand that it’s simple thermodynamics. If your fire isn’t producing enough heat, you add more wood. You don’t start to doubt that burning is exothermic.

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    • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨48⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I can’t digest pork well (it runs right through me and frequently causes vomiting), so I don’t l eat it, but if I were to follow a diet with 500 calories of pork in it, I might get 100 from it. On the other hand, I digest beans and lentils incredibly well, with no noticeable gas. I can imagine that I might actually get 110 calories from a “100 calorie serving.” It is possible to determine your caloric intake despite this variation, but because people aren’t well educated about it, they see a mismatch in the math and reality and think it’s pointless to calculate it at all instead of realizing they need to adjust it for their specific digestive system.

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