Submitted 2 weeks ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
“Well, first of all, they’re completely wrong,” Huang said in response to a question from Tom’s Hardware editor-in-chief Paul Alcorn about the criticism.
“The reason for that is because, as I have explained very carefully, DLSS 5 fuses controllability of the of geometry and textures and everything about the game with generative AI,” Huang continued.
Just a elongated way to say AI slop.
I LOVE seeing AI-related CEOs come out and say stuff like this.
This is not something you come out and say publicly when you’re confident in your product and genuinely believe it stands on its own merits.
I don’t care what Jensen says.
He can eat a bag of dicks
I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again.
Nvidia is destroying gaming.
They started the destruction with the idea of 4k gaming.
When they realized native 4k gaming wasnt going to be feasible… They knocked gaming to the ground and started kicking it in the ribs with this upscaling bullshit, because who doesnt live a 1080p picture shittily stretched to 4k?
And they curb stomped it by making video cards cost more than what most people make in a fucking month.
and they’re beating its unconscious body with bats over this DLSS5 AI obsession bullshit.
and at every step of the way, the gamers were there to deliver dumptrucks of money because they don’t give a fuck about ruining everything as long as they can have their new shiny. Being in the cool kids club by having a new shiny is more important than the havok they are wrecking with their decisions to support this shit.
But don’t worry…They’ll still go online and cry about the unfairness of it all.
Well 4k gaming was always going to happen for high-end hardware, they just pushed faster adoption to sell more cards. It’s only now starting to be ready without DLSS.
It does suck indeed, though. I’m quite happy with 1440p and my next card, whenever I can actually afford and justify the upgrade, will allow me to reach 120 fps more easily, without DLSS.
I have a 4k monitor at 60hz and a 2k at 90. The 2k is an easy immediate choice for anything outside of 4x(sweet, sweet ui real estate).
Ah yes, the guy who has never touched a controller in his life knows best what’s good for video games.
My main problem is that, even if the technology were to work exactly as advertised, for the first time, PC gaming is moving to an era where our games no longer look the same.
We’ve all seen how every previous version of DLSS worked. The promise of lowering system requirements of high resolutions caught enough attention to draw a crowd, game devs used it to increase the system requirements for lower resolutions instead, AMD and Intel had to develop their own different implementation to stay competitive, and lots of mainstream gaming now requires DLSS and the like on all but the most expensive cards (sometimes even then).
The tech will get better. It always does. Whether that improvement will come fast or slow doesn’t really matter. I think most points of controversy will fade as we’re starting to see this applied to new games. After all, if a game were to be developed knowing that it would be using DLSS 5, the argument that artistic intent will be violated will hold less strength. If DLSS 5 were to ruin the artistic intent of a ground-up DLSS 5-developed game, it wouldn’t be shipped. Future titles being “DLSS 5±mindful” and future improvements to the AI used should get the technology working ever closer to the vision that is being advertised today.
But when that starts to happen, the story will play out exactly the same as it always has for DLSS. It creates results that are “good enough”, so game devs move their development resources elsewhere. Then some management layer catches onto this tech, and finds out that they can just take these resources and move them right into their personal paycheck. End result is games that look generations old and barely run unless you use DLSS 5. By then FSR and XeSS will have to follow suit; if they don’t, AMD and Intel will have the cards that are not only comparatively featureless and weaker, but also produce uglier visuals. But because these generative AI models will never be the exact same between these manufacturers, the output will also never be the same.
And then we move to the weird reality where games look different on different cards, and driver (or, in the case of consoles, system) updates could fundamentally change what games look like, independent of developer input (turns out that artistic integrity can still end up in jeopardy, huh). And unlike with the current AI upscalers we have, where there is a ground truth for the result and we can always obtain it with better hardware, DLSS 5-developed games will always have to rely on it for their “fancy effects” (read: looking like something other than a GameCube game in 2030).
That’s my problem with DLSS 5
Games have had graphics settings for quite some time
And the only setting that will look the same across hardware and driver versions is dsss off, which I think was their point, what is yours?
Your comment is so asinine that I’m going to assume you’re Jensen Huang. Go home Mr. Jensen, we don’t need you here. Go spend some time with your family.
Fuck nvidia
Slop Wars - DLSS awakening.
That man has drank so much koolaide, he would probably implode of he stopped.
That dude is the koolaid
Gamers could collectively boycott NVidia cards and it would barely make a dent in their bottom line. It’s time for gamers to show nvidia that they are unequally important to us as we are to them
I haven’t bought a nvidia card in over a decade. Start buying APUs, handhelds, or just keep your current card and turn the graphics down or start playing your backlog. And for the love of god don’t pay for GeForce now.
So- this would potentially render in-game cosmetics useless. You could just DLSS some cosmetic over your character for ‘free’ and skip paying for in-game cosmetic items. You could retexture or skin a model into something else with this tech, theoretically.
Heck, this could be a banned feature for online competitive games if you DLSS enemies to be easier to see.
Non-gaming applications of such tech are kinda frightening, but good to be aware of the possibility. AI swapping of characters has been something they’ve been working on. I’m guessing it will be sold as some kinda feature where you can give the AI some model of yourself, and it swaps the main character of a show or movie for your likeness. People will find it neat and try it and it will sorta work, but mostly just be a novelty. Then you’ll see that data get used for advertising, where they swap out the character in the Ad for you to catch your attention. If they try to catalog every person, this could be valuable and used to maliciously scam people by cloning your voice to mimic you and do all sorts of terrible things.
I imagine in a few years after some major scams and such that we’ll need some new verification systems to try to ensure that transactions are between real people and not just AI with your information. Yes, it will be intrusive and tracking, but will be required to maintain online commerce. Online marketplaces will struggle and possibly collapse without some way to authenticate a transaction. Hey, we may see a return to physical stores and doing everything in person again!
Just think, between that and DOGE nerds having you info, you might as well have no identity. We might as well all be black boxes.
Wouldn’t this be implemented by the game itself? Or are they letting people use it on whatever they want? I honestly haven’t researched too much because I won’t be using it anyway.
Seems like, based on his own words, that gamers were absolutely right about DLSS 5. At least as far as I can tell.
We don’t want GenAI horseshit in games.
Meaning that we are right.
Speaking of slop…does Huang, “the wang”, have only one leather jacket? Isn’t that weird? Is he trying to brand like the Jobs turtleneck?
Do not fuck up my games, Jenny
“As ive explained, this is what consumers want”
It’s classic Nvidia hype vs. community skepticism. Huang’s defending the tech’s architecture, but the eye-test on those previews is what sparked the “AI slop” memes in the first place. We’ll have to wait for hands-on in actual titles to judge if it’s revolutionary or just another overreach. What do you think, worth turning on if it’s optional, or are you in the “keep the hand-crafted art pure” camp?
This is a two day old account.
Yes, it’s a two day old account doesn’t mean, I can’t speak when I’m supposed to, Dose it.
Or did your account eloped to how it is now?
Gamers love to hear that.
He taking his lead from the piece of orange shit in the White House?
Oh no, did the dirty peasants hurt you itty bitty ego, mister boo-ang?
Ah fuck, more generative AI!
“No, actually, you’re completely wrong!”
OK…? Then what is it?
“It’s generative AI.”
“It fuses the controllability of the geometry and textures and everything about the game with the uncontrollable and unpredictable element of generative AI!”
Oh the guy trying to sell us the pail of vomit says its actually great? Huh.
Course he did
I’m glad that I already have all the games I like in my library for years now and none of this bullshit matters to me
It’s a way of saying that devs have control over how it’s applied. But given examples are just bad - model changing the shape of lips and eyes is all too familiar to anyone who toyed with stable diffusion.
Angsty Asian Fonzie still jumping the shark.
BassTurd@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Jensen is a dumb, out of touch motherfucker
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh, he’s very in touch.
With the AI money machine that keeps on printing money and that’s all that matters this and any other CEO in today’s world.