Real Struggle 😔

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• ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I recently had a hard time explaining to a coworker that the “Increase number of decimals” button in Excel doesn’t work if you already exported to a CSV with only a decimal of precision. It worked on their end because they had the excel file, but I had the CSV. I managed to come up with a clever and innovative solution to the problem though; I gave up and worked on something else.

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  • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I managed to come up with a clever and innovative solution to the problem though; I gave up and worked on something else.

    There ya go.

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    • diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah sucks when he’s the only guy giving you tasks and what else are you going to do?

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  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Excel is pretty awful software. 

    10-15 years ago it was good, but it just isn’t anymore. 

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    • Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Considering it is being saved in another format, I’d hardly consider this an excel problem.

      CSV has existed since before personal computers, much less Microsoft office.

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  • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s actually pretty terrible. Can you load the csv and then save it again as an xls? Once it’s loaded, why does it care what the source format was?

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    • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think you misunderstood the problem.

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    • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As soon as you convert from an .XLS file to a .CSV file, the data and sig figs used to display that data are saved while the math formulas used to calculate that data are erased.

      This means that when you try to go from .CSV to .XLS, Excel doesn’t know the original formula that created the data to then be able to display more decimal points. The formula is absolutely necessary to change sig figs of displayed data.

      The only other way I can think of that would allow one to change sig figs in .CSV data is if the .XLS file was converted with like the maximum number of sig figs displayed, or let’s say 10-20. Then in a .CSV, you can modify the sig figs to something less, like 0-20.

      But I want to say that if you save that file, where you original converted it with 10-20 sig figs but then changed them to 0-20, the .CSV overwrites the data and you lose the sig figs that you concatenated.

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• ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I have a colleague making close to twice my salary struggling with IT…but he’s extremely skilled at his actual job.

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  • borth@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But like… saving a PDF should not be considered IT lol

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    • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah my bet is that the meme is facetious

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The fuck else is it? Did you come out your momma’s vajayjay being able to save a pdf?

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  • theparadox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I overheard someone considerably high up in my organization struggling to understand the concept of an email BCC (Blind Carbon Copy).

    He was trying to figure out how to notify a large number of people via email without letting them know who else was receiving the email.

    Some things may fall under IT but they should really fall under the category of things every professional should understand.

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    • TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      BCC is turning 50 years old next year.

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  • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yup. The key is are they paid to save pdfs? Or are they paid to do other things?

    I can save the shit out of some PDFs, but I’ve only ever made one sale in my entire life.

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    • WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are they paid to use the toilet to go to the bathroom or are they paid for other things? If they’re paid for other things, they should shit on the floor wherever they happen to be and let the janitors handle that since they’re the ones paid to clean things up.

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  • GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I liken it to a professional basketball player with a low free throw percentage. If they’re still on the team and in the league despite missing 3 free throws a game, they must be really good at the other stuff.

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• Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Followed by listening to them complain about how they are struggling with money because of how much their cars are costing them. Meanwhile I can’t even afford to learn to drive.

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  • sunflower@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Listening to the personal financial issues of people much wealthier than you is just the worst. I hate how this can distance me from some of my friends even.

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• LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We just got a new employee at work. She is in her 60s and 100% computer illiterate. I had to give her training on how to use a mouse and how to click on bookmarks to open our shared sheets. She somehow deleted everything on one sheet the first day, but shes getting better. She doesn’t own any computers and her phone is some no name model from 12 years ago. Im kinda impressed shes made it this far.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fucking up over and over really is the best way to learn how to use computers… I was lucky enough to go through that as a kid/teen so the consequences were pretty meaningless.

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    • Camille_Jamal@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I had such a double take reading your username

      I assume 1984 reference or is this a word used elsewhere I happened to learn from the book?

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  • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I need to start faking computer illiteracy or at least downplaying my level of literacy. Employers notice how quickly I get computer-related tasks done, but then they expect that as my norm while my coworkers are struggling to use any device without a touch screen.

    The last new hire I trained was in his mid-twenties and lacked basic tech literacy outside of the iPhone. I asked him to write up a quick protocol using a template I sent him. He typed the text of the Outlook file preview into notepad and went from there. I was baffled.

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Disgusting. At least use vim!

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right? Any sane e-mail client allows you to open edits in your favorite text editor.

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  • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s the youngest I’ve heard of someone like that. My grandpa was like that and in his 90s and I still thought he should get a computer for at least banking and stuff.

    She must have been in her mid 40’s when the iPhone came out, that’s young enough to be interested and learn about the tech. She must have just actively ignored it or refused out of principle or something.

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In her 40s? Just how old do you think the iPhone is?

      Oh wait, oh no,

      Image

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  • ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    She actually sounds like a treasure. Guide her well, and learn from her what you can.

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• imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Been under a team leader long time ago. She double clicked all web page links. It was the first time I have been silent while witnessing something so outrageous.

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• eatCasserole@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Me watching someone who makes three times my salary use Excel for graphic design.

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• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  my dude, try having to do a job for someone who makes more that year than you will your entire life, and see them struggle with any simple task.

  it doesn’t matter the task. you will shit your gasket at the fact they will make more that year than you will your entire life, and you will not get a tip regardless. it will piss your nugget twice the flip fuck off.

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  • PineRune@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They don’t make that kind of money by being smart. They make it by screwing over everyone else for profit.

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  • DancingBear@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No… I’d rather go chill at the ymca

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• BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Dean at my college makes 4x my salary, he thinks I personally invented “VPN” to confuse him and make his life difficult

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  • varyingExpertise@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It must be frustrating to think of oneself as king of the knowledge hill, only to be reminded by life all the time that, well, no. Of course they lash out.

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    • Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well, running with the analogy of a knowledge hill…not everyone can be at the top of the hill, and nobody can remain at the top of the hill indefinitely, and there is likely another hill that is higher.

      Try to find enjoyment at the top of your current hill, help others up, and look to the horizon for your next summit. Being angry about a job you chose, or performing it poorly, seems like you are only injuring yourself.

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• Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Stupid brain surgeons, don’t know how to save to pdf, I should make more money than them!

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  • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t think I could trust a brain surgeon who can’t save to pdf in this day and age.

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    • Tinidril@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ben Carson comes to mind. Right wing anti-vax freak who was formerly the director of neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins.

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    • DevilsJaundice@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, I mean, it’s not exactly brain surgery…

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  • Sunsofold@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you are a surgeon but, in the year 2026, haven’t learned ‘File>Save As…’ or ‘click the little disk icon’ I doubt your competence to have learned anything else. Saving a file requires far less education and adaptability. I mean, it’s not exactly brain surgery.

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Exhibit A

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    • Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “What’s a disk?” – Recently graduated surgeon

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• Ash@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No word of a lie, I worked in a place where HR would print the company credit card statements, load the printed sheets back into the printer scanner, and email them to each employee individually from the copier.

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  • LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lamo. That sounds so much more difficult than just…… emailing the statements off the bat. I’m impressed!

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  • WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve heard of something like that happening because they weren’t allowed to download pdfs from emails, but they were allow to directly send them to the printer.

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• derry@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not to mention that damn AC vent blowing right on ya

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• DemBoSain@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I had a user come to me with a PDF issue my app was generating. They kept getting the document in landscape, and wanted it on portrait. They were the only user with this issue, and it stumped me. I checked the underlying code, and everything was set to portrait mode, except the last page, which contained a sketch and was set to landscape mode.

  I asked him to show me exactly what he did when he made the PDF. Instead of just downloading the provided PDF, he had his system set to open it on Adobe Reader. He would then use a PDF printer (Microsoft, or cutePDF) to save the doc. His printer was set to landscape.

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• RepleteLocum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Everyone here is bashing in op, but when you have to help the 50eth person who clearly doesn’t even understand the fundamentals of their job, with editing a word file even tho you already sent them the tutorial, it just gets to you. But I guess I did sign up for first level support.

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  • untorquer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Look, careers aren’t about doing your job well, they’re about being likeable whether or not you’re competent. If people like you you’ll get paid more even if you can’t figure out how to export a word document.

    I agree wholeheartedly, OP doesn’t deserve the bashing, meme is dead on. My daily experience.

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• starik@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And you probably don’t know how long chicken nuggets need to be in the fryer.

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  • Boppel@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    tell it to me at the first day and i will. the thing is if you work with pdf you better know how to use pdf format. your competence should be part of the reason why you earn more. if your boss works with a computer for more than a year and still struggles it’s not a sign of “i don’t need to know that”, but idgaf. these people never needed to climb a ladder hence they don’t know shit about the environment in which they work and slow everybody else down.

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    • starik@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If someone needs to save pdfs on a regular basis, they remember how to do it. If not, they don’t.

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  • ieatpwns@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m willing to bet the teach that day one and even have a single function button just for nuggets

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    • starik@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are you saying you don’t know for sure? How much do you make? It better not be more than minimum wage

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You would be right, I can’t afford ultra processed foods. Root veg and grains for me with legumes if I am feeling fancy. Although I do have rosemary now because I pirated the plant.

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    • Camille_Jamal@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ah, have you seeded it yet?

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• mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  depends

  are they trying to export a PDF from Microsoft Word? because Microsoft makes that difficult nowadays

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can’t you just print and choose “print to pdf” as your “printer”?

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    • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yup, super difficult. Its not the default, so no one can find it.

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      you can still do that

      it’s buggier than it used to be, though

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    • RamenDame@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Apparently then it is bad for formatting and reading apps for the visual impaired can not pick up sections when they have been pre assigned (but I didn’t test just saw a real, need confirmation)

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  • Jyek@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s really not… There are several pretty straightforward ways to do it and they’re all pretty old standards. Save as > select PDF as the file type. Or if you have Adobe Reader/Acrobat installed, word has a button right under save as that says Save As Adobe PDF. Or you can print to PDF using the Adobe print function in the printers. Lastly windows has a built in PDF printer by default. All of these work pretty damn reliably. If you can’t save a PDF from a word doc, it’s either your computer or you.

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re showing your privilege lol

      When you save an office file to PDF and you are in a OneDrive environment, it doesn’t save it locally - it saves it to the cloud, and then downloads it locally. it’s fucked up

      I’m not going to fault people for having trouble when the “save this file as PDF” option doesnt result in a PDF immediately in the save directory

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  • WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Isn’t it just alt+fea?

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    • Camille_Jamal@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Control-s save as>pdf is how I do but I’m not professional I’m teen

      Still seeing classmates open chrome, search “google” in the search bar, click the link, just to end where they started is infuriating as fuck

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• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Now combine this ordeal with getting them to properly sign the damn thing.

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• swelter_spark@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I used to work at an office where all of our documents were kept electronically. A few of my coworkers couldn’t figure out how to open any file type except pdf, so whenever I added documents to the system, I’d convert anything else and add a pdf copy for them.

  Another group of coworkers was infuriated by this, because they believed I was spending hours every day scanning a ton of paper documents unnecessarily, because I guess they didn’t know any other way to create a pdf?

  I ended up being called into a meeting with my manager to justify why I was wasting so much time scanning documents. I explained that I wasn’t scanning anything, I was just opening files that we received in an electronic format and clicking “export to pdf”.

  He was blamed me for none of the people who complained knowing how to do this. We were all administrative staff.

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• titanicx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hate techs that think like this. Shit i can’t do a doctor’s job, I can’t do an architects job. I don’t expect them to do mine. In fact I want then to pay me all to do my job because they can’t do it. 

  Fuck you. Do you job better then them and be worthy of your money 

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  • Echolynx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Uh… the whole point of the meme is that you are being paid less than someone who knows less and does less than you.

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    • diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Exactly!

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  • DevilsJaundice@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If saving a PDF is part of your job, then it’s not IT’s job. 

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