It’s almost like the amount of salt matters.
Anon sees through the lies
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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bus_factor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
radix@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Water: good
Hyperhydration: exists
The dose makes the poison.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
After all breathing pure oxygen is incredibly bad for your health.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
And the kind
petersr@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And the fact that you might drink electrolyte beverages after sweating.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yup, human kidneys suck at efficiently filtering out salt and can only do so at a relatively low maximum concentration in the urine. The moment you take salt water that is of higher salt concentration than that, your body uses more water than what you took to eliminate that salt.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
If only he’d gone the next step and actually looked up how electrolytes work.
This is how conspiracy theorists actually think, they do a single Google search, fail to understand the answer because typically they have the intelligence of a lump of cheese, and form a totally incoherent theory as a result. Once the theory is formed, any evidence to the contrary is disregarded.
Flat earthers primary reason for believing the earth is flat is that otherwise water wouldn’t form puddles and lakes it would always be flowing downhill. This makes perfect sense provided you’ve failed to achieve a 12-year-old’s understanding of gravity. Which of course they have failed to achieve because of the aforementioned intellectual deficiency.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
they do a single Google search, fail to understand the answer because typically they have the intelligence of a lump of cheese, and form a totally incoherent theory as a result
I mean, it’s more complicated than that on two levels.
Firstly, sports drinks like Gatorade were formulated for a very specific kind of short term high intensity activity (specifically, playing football in Florida during the summer). But for lower intensity and longer term exercising (anything over two hours - long distance running / biking / swimming, most notably) its generally worse for you than water. So expressing a degree of skepticism is warranted. That’s doubly so in the face of endless marketing and native advertisement in sports media.
Secondly, when you get into the dietary sciences and start running into contradictions between the more well-established benefits of drinking water relative to the dubious claims of marketing agencies, it can easily become difficult to determine what is and is not bullshit. Because Google itself has been marketed as a valuable tool for research and analysis, and because so much of our academic infrastructure has been privatized (Google being a prime example), even the most intellectually curious and level headed can become overwhelmed with the task of “Doing Your Own Research”.
Flat earthers primary reason for believing the earth is flat is that otherwise water wouldn’t form puddles and lakes it would always be flowing downhill.
The primary reason for believing the Earth is flat is that the ground is flat in much of the country. People don’t natively intuit that the earth is round, they have to be told or to engage in some fairly non-intuitive experimentation. To grapple with the idea of a round earth, you have to start taking second and third hand accounts at face value or get reasonably good at geometry and have a certain bedrock faith in the accuracy of your calculations.
I’d argue that flat earthers are more curious and often more intelligent than their “I believe the earth is round cause that’s what they told me” set. And its often this curiosity - combined with some error in logic or bad initial data - that leads them to try and prove the unproveable so doggedly.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
its often this curiosity - combined with some error in logic or bad initial data - that leads them to try and prove the unproveable so doggedly.
You know what we call people who perform experimental tests on a given hypothesis?
Scientists
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s also how conspiracy theories spread.
People sharing it thinking it’s a joke.
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Yup, for that reason I don’t share cracked views, even as a joke.
canofcam@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“This is how conspiracy theorists actually think”
I’m not sure why this generalisation was required? Many ‘conspiracy theories’ have been proven to be true, and not ALL theorists believe ALL of the theories. It’s easy to discredit somebody when you label them something and then say that those that are labelled are idiots.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I also thought it was a bit of a weird tangent, but it makes sense. Maybe they have something fresh in mind that connected those dots for them.
I’d only make the distinction between what kind of conspiracy theories people believe in because some people fly straight into fantasy. If it’s about aliens and Flat Earth, there’s no reason to give the benefit of the doubt. These people have left reality and are in it for themselves for whatever personal reason, actively ignoring and denying contrary evidence. It wouldn’t surprise me if they knew they were being idiots.
That said, I’m only partial to some conspiracy theories that seem plausible, like COVID conspiracies that stem from ignorance of science and fear of technology. In that case, I will give the benefit of the doubt.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the other factor is the ego-trip they go on because they are ‘special’ and ‘not sheep’.
WinGirl99@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
fail to understand the answer because typically they have the intelligence of a lump of cheese,
LMFAOOOO
Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Whoa now, lets not give flat earthers so much credit. That doesnt even make sense within their own theories. Logic is not the point
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Well it does. Here’s the logic, with proof by negation:
- Earth is round (assertion to disprove)
- Water flows around round objects
- Water doesn’t flow on the earth, it stays put, therefore the earth is not round
That’s as far as it goes.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
theneverfox@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
You can drink a little amount of salt water and probably come out ahead… Drink too much and you get into a death spiral though
SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why
11111one11111@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s your body doin homeostasis, hombre!
Bluewing@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
That is a good question for a nephrologist.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Your body needs some salt, and it sweats out salt. So it needs to be replaced.
licheas@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It’s what plants crave!
hopesdead@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
Isn’t this the plot of Idiocracy?
MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
It’s a major plot point. Brawndo, the Thirst Mutilator, has been put into almost everything in place of water ("water, like from the toiler?") And consequently kills the crops.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
How the fuck would it even do that? It’s got what plans crave.
raman_klogius@ani.social 3 weeks ago
Fun fact: the further into the Baltic Sea you go (ie the farther it is from Copenhagen), the less salty it is. Around Stockholm iirc you can just drink the water straight up and rehydrate instead of dehydrating.
zloubida@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yeah, but drinking the Baltic sea’s water, one of the most if not the most polluted sea of the world, will cause you other problems 😅
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Isn’t American water usually more polluted near large industries?
raman_klogius@ani.social 3 weeks ago
rehydrating and give you cancer :v
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
what?
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The Danish people must be salty about that.
hOrni@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Maybe that’s why they like, the discussing thing that is, black licorice.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thanks, I’m going to do just that!
RedSnt@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
Apparently there’s on average 3.5% salt in seawater, so you could probably drink 1 liter daily and be fine assuming you supplement it with something “else”. ~you~ ~know~ ~what…~
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
You won’t die immediately, but there’s no way that consuming 35g salt/day won’t lead to severe health issues down the line …
RedSnt@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
Yeah, you’re right, it was some really shotty early morning math, I was thinking 100 ml not a whole liter.
stray@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
35g of salt can be a lethal dose for a human of about 70kg, so no one’s going to last too long on this diet.
Dasus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You can’t supplement it with your urine, because your urine will be containing the salts you’re trying to get rid of.
If you had an ample supply of urine from someone who was extremely well hydrated, maybe.
But yeah no you shouldn’t be drinking seawater at all, it’s just too salty. You’re expending more water of get rid of the salt. Coffee or tea would be fine despite slight diuretic effects, but ocean water is just too salty.
reev@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Is it pee
MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Not your own. Definitely not from anyone who has taken-up drinking seawater either.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 weeks ago
Depends on rest of diet and starting conditions and duration.
Like if in a highly glycolytic diet/state… severely not advisable to do large doses of salt. But if in ketosis, you’ve a far higher ceiling. 3.5g’s normal. 35g’s likely going too far even when in ketosis.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
H2O?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I mean it does make me wonder why electrolyte water is good but seawater is bad. The types of salts? The ratio?
Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Too much of a good thing is a bad thing.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I refute this by raising you fluffy doggos. You can NEVER have enough fluffy doggos. Check mate atheists.
FatVegan@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
The amount of salt. In an emergency you can stretch your drinking water with sea water. But it could obviously fire backwards.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
It’s got what plants crave!
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How stupid do they think we are?
That’s not the question to ask. Anon should be asking: How stupid is everyone, as a group?
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the thing a lot of people leave out is that… people will act stupidier than they are because it’s how they get social acceptance.
I’m sure most of us have been in situations where people agreed with the stupid people because it was more socially expedient. This is how stupid people and stupid ideas tend to take precedence.
falseWhite@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just eat plain salt dude. Max electrolytes and hydration!
Agent641@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ketchup is an energy drink.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ketchup is basically just Extra Pulp V8.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 hours ago
The WHO has approved a recipe for an oral rehydration solution (ORS) with electrolytes (salt of course). It’s given out in first aid and medic teams have it ready at parties.