Anon sees through the lies

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• bus_factor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s almost like the amount of salt matters.

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  • radix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Water: good

    Hyperhydration: exists

    The dose makes the poison.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      After all breathing pure oxygen is incredibly bad for your health.

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And the kind

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    • petersr@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And the fact that you might drink electrolyte beverages after sweating.

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  • DaddleDew@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yup, human kidneys suck at efficiently filtering out salt and can only do so at a relatively low maximum concentration in the urine. The moment you take salt water that is of higher salt concentration than that, your body uses more water than what you took to eliminate that salt.

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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If only he’d gone the next step and actually looked up how electrolytes work.

  This is how conspiracy theorists actually think, they do a single Google search, fail to understand the answer because typically they have the intelligence of a lump of cheese, and form a totally incoherent theory as a result. Once the theory is formed, any evidence to the contrary is disregarded.

  Flat earthers primary reason for believing the earth is flat is that otherwise water wouldn’t form puddles and lakes it would always be flowing downhill. This makes perfect sense provided you’ve failed to achieve a 12-year-old’s understanding of gravity. Which of course they have failed to achieve because of the aforementioned intellectual deficiency.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    they do a single Google search, fail to understand the answer because typically they have the intelligence of a lump of cheese, and form a totally incoherent theory as a result

    I mean, it’s more complicated than that on two levels.

    Firstly, sports drinks like Gatorade were formulated for a very specific kind of short term high intensity activity (specifically, playing football in Florida during the summer). But for lower intensity and longer term exercising (anything over two hours - long distance running / biking / swimming, most notably) its generally worse for you than water. So expressing a degree of skepticism is warranted. That’s doubly so in the face of endless marketing and native advertisement in sports media.

    Secondly, when you get into the dietary sciences and start running into contradictions between the more well-established benefits of drinking water relative to the dubious claims of marketing agencies, it can easily become difficult to determine what is and is not bullshit. Because Google itself has been marketed as a valuable tool for research and analysis, and because so much of our academic infrastructure has been privatized (Google being a prime example), even the most intellectually curious and level headed can become overwhelmed with the task of “Doing Your Own Research”.

    Flat earthers primary reason for believing the earth is flat is that otherwise water wouldn’t form puddles and lakes it would always be flowing downhill.

    The primary reason for believing the Earth is flat is that the ground is flat in much of the country. People don’t natively intuit that the earth is round, they have to be told or to engage in some fairly non-intuitive experimentation. To grapple with the idea of a round earth, you have to start taking second and third hand accounts at face value or get reasonably good at geometry and have a certain bedrock faith in the accuracy of your calculations.

    I’d argue that flat earthers are more curious and often more intelligent than their “I believe the earth is round cause that’s what they told me” set. And its often this curiosity - combined with some error in logic or bad initial data - that leads them to try and prove the unproveable so doggedly.

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  • Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Whoa now, lets not give flat earthers so much credit. That doesnt even make sense within their own theories. Logic is not the point

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well it does. Here’s the logic, with proof by negation:

      1. Earth is round (assertion to disprove)
      2. Water flows around round objects
      3. Water doesn’t flow on the earth, it stays put, therefore the earth is not round

      That’s as far as it goes.

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  • GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s also how conspiracy theories spread.

    People sharing it thinking it’s a joke.

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  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the other factor is the ego-trip they go on because they are ‘special’ and ‘not sheep’.

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  • canofcam@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “This is how conspiracy theorists actually think”

    I’m not sure why this generalisation was required? Many ‘conspiracy theories’ have been proven to be true, and not ALL theorists believe ALL of the theories. It’s easy to discredit somebody when you label them something and then say that those that are labelled are idiots.

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I also thought it was a bit of a weird tangent, but it makes sense. Maybe they have something fresh in mind that connected those dots for them.

      I’d only make the distinction between what kind of conspiracy theories people believe in because some people fly straight into fantasy. If it’s about aliens and Flat Earth, there’s no reason to give the benefit of the doubt. These people have left reality and are in it for themselves for whatever personal reason, actively ignoring and denying contrary evidence. It wouldn’t surprise me if they knew they were being idiots.

      That said, I’m only partial to some conspiracy theories that seem plausible, like COVID conspiracies that stem from ignorance of science and fear of technology. In that case, I will give the benefit of the doubt.

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• theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You can drink a little amount of salt water and probably come out ahead… Drink too much and you get into a death spiral though

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  • SendMePhotos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Why

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    • 11111one11111@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s your body doin homeostasis, hombre!

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Your body needs some salt, and it sweats out salt. So it needs to be replaced.

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• licheas@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s what plants crave!

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• hopesdead@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Isn’t this the plot of Idiocracy?

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  • MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s a major plot point. Brawndo, the Thirst Mutilator, has been put into almost everything in place of water ("water, like from the toiler?") And consequently kills the crops.

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    • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How the fuck would it even do that? It’s got what plans crave.

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• raman_klogius@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Fun fact: the further into the Baltic Sea you go (ie the farther it is from Copenhagen), the less salty it is. Around Stockholm iirc you can just drink the water straight up and rehydrate instead of dehydrating.

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  • zloubida@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, but drinking the Baltic sea’s water, one of the most if not the most polluted sea of the world, will cause you other problems 😅

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    • raman_klogius@ani.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      rehydrating and give you cancer :v

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    • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Isn’t American water usually more polluted near large industries?

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    • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      what?

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  • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The Danish people must be salty about that.

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    • hOrni@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe that’s why they like, the discussing thing that is, black licorice.

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Thanks, I’m going to do just that!

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I mean it does make me wonder why electrolyte water is good but seawater is bad. The types of salts? The ratio?

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  • Seasm0ke@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Too much of a good thing is a bad thing.

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  • FatVegan@leminal.space ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The amount of salt. In an emergency you can stretch your drinking water with sea water. But it could obviously fire backwards.

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• RedSnt@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Apparently there’s on average 3.5% salt in seawater, so you could probably drink 1 liter daily and be fine assuming you supplement it with something “else”. ~you~ ~know~ ~what…~

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  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You won’t die immediately, but there’s no way that consuming 35g salt/day won’t lead to severe health issues down the line …

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    • RedSnt@feddit.dk ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, you’re right, it was some really shotty early morning math, I was thinking 100 ml not a whole liter.

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    • stray@pawb.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      35g of salt can be a lethal dose for a human of about 70kg, so no one’s going to last too long on this diet.

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  • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You can’t supplement it with your urine, because your urine will be containing the salts you’re trying to get rid of.

    If you had an ample supply of urine from someone who was extremely well hydrated, maybe.

    But yeah no you shouldn’t be drinking seawater at all, it’s just too salty. You’re expending more water of get rid of the salt. Coffee or tea would be fine despite slight diuretic effects, but ocean water is just too salty.

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  • reev@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is it pee

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    • MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not your own. Definitely not from anyone who has taken-up drinking seawater either.

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  • Digit@lemmy.wtf ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Depends on rest of diet and starting conditions and duration.

    Like if in a highly glycolytic diet/state… severely not advisable to do large doses of salt. But if in ketosis, you’ve a far higher ceiling. 3.5g’s normal. 35g’s likely going too far even when in ketosis.

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  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    H2O?

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• dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How stupid do they think we are?

  That’s not the question to ask. Anon should be asking: How stupid is everyone, as a group?

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  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the thing a lot of people leave out is that… people will act stupidier than they are because it’s how they get social acceptance.

    I’m sure most of us have been in situations where people agreed with the stupid people because it was more socially expedient. This is how stupid people and stupid ideas tend to take precedence.

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• Alexstarfire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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• falseWhite@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Just eat plain salt dude. Max electrolytes and hydration!

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• Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Ketchup is an energy drink.

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ketchup is basically just Extra Pulp V8.

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