Youtube can detect VPNs now... the fuck?
Submitted 1 day ago by DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
Pipepipe has been more reliable for me, lately.
But who knows how long these alternative front-ends will last? It’s a constant cat and mouse game between volunteers and Google.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
How does this app survive economically?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 hours ago
Apps don’t need finances to survive. The creator of the app could be working on it entirely because they want to, and not because they get paid.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Labor of love, I suspect
DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
Most open source projects are not financially driven. The bigger projects, such as this, usually function like non-profit organizations.
Xenny@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I’ve been getting a “You must sign on to see this content” from YouTube (refusing to play the video if I don’t) for ages when I’m behind a VPN, but if I disconnect the VPN and try again I don’t get it.
Curiously, sometimes it doesn’t happen.
I guess YouTube has a list of IP addresses of VPN exit points and will do that if it detects a connection coming from one of those, but at least for my VPN provider some exit points are not in the list.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 19 hours ago
With TOR i don’t have oroblems on youtube, somehow
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
Isn’t TOR a bit too slow to watch videos in YouTube?
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“This will allow YouTube to locate the best content”
They mean slop? Another reason why I still use Newpipe on mobile.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I needed to fiddle around with YouTube a lot, so it won’t try to shove mediocre Pewdiepie clones but Hungarian (or more recently, Hungarian chud slop) down my throat.
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 day ago
Just install Revanced
BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 1 day ago
How on iOS?
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Really, if you’ve kept using apple all the way up until now, it’s kinda on you.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 19 hours ago
Revanced ftw.
Lenny@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Lately while on VPN I’m able to watch videos and sometime have to solve a captcha to prove I’m not a bot, but if I’m using nothing (at home on WiFi) it’ll ask me to sign in to make sure I’m not a bot 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️… Like wtf
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 19 hours ago
Because there is a lor of traffic from the same IP and they get suspicious
Lenny@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
Yeah, so I understand why I have to solve a captcha when using VPN, but I literally (at times) cannot use YT ‘anonymously’ from my residential IP without signing in to an account.
FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 1 day ago
Oh no! I guess I'll just have to keep not using YouTube.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Not worth it
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 23 hours ago
Why do people still use YouTube if they hate it so much?
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 23 hours ago
There aren’t really any alternatives.
I’m ok with YouTube due to using strong ad-blockers, browser extensions, and I don’t log in. Seems that these 3 things cut most of the bullshit.
Psythik@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Cause there’s nothing else to watch.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 23 hours ago
I generally don’t use throngs that I hate, regardless.
skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 22 hours ago
Rabbit ears are cheap and don’t need internet. PlutoTV, Samsung TV, Roku TV all exist. So many free choices.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 19 hours ago
There are literally 0 good alternatives now, my only hope is fairplay (which is now in development)
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
A lack of alternatives is not an excuse to continue using something you don’t like. I honestly don’t get the culture around all the YouTube hate.
I don’t use shit that I don’t like. I don’t support things that I don’t agree with the practices of. YouTube treats its users and creators like shit. Know what?
They’ll continue to do so as long as people keep using their platform. That’s how it goes. It’s not going to change. And every workaround that is created, will get squashed.
People that are always complaining about it, and then continuing to use it just blows my mind. I’ll never understand it- even when people try and justify it. And that there are no alternatives basically just says that you’re willing to eat whatever shit they serve you, so long as you get your fix.
It’s an addiction at this point. You’re willfully enduring shit you hate so you can have moments of shit you enjoy.
gigachad@piefed.social 1 day ago
NewPipe
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Honestly, Newpipe gets blocked more often than just using browser. Probably because of they detected API calls or something.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 day ago
I don’t think NewPipe uses yt’s API. yt-dlp certainly doesn’t. It’s kinda the whole point of these alternative frontends.
Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Try pipepipe, haven’t had it blocked ever for the couple yeara I’ve used it
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
The Newpipe community is pretty big so even if it is blocked it is temporary
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Try Tubular, which is NewPipe plus SponsorBlock which makes the video watching experience even better. :)
RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Websites have been able to detect VPN usage for a long time.
mwalimu@baraza.africa 1 day ago
Me: Leave that to me. I know what I want.
Toneswirly@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Lol, I guess I wont be watching the latest mr beast mukbang
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 23 hours ago
I’m just going to say it: YouTube really started going to shit when professional, monetized YouTubers started becoming a big thing.
sraars@iamaghast.com 15 hours ago
I'd like to see folks do more PeerTube instances in the future or something similar grow but there is cost involved that people don't have with YouTube.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
just gotta get a good vpn that knows how to play the dance.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Which one do you suggest?
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
i personally use mullvad (for something quick because i love their ethos) and windscribe (paid) for port forwarding
chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
They’ve been able to detect commercial VPNs for a long time. They’re just starting to care enough to take some action now.
shalafi@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I rolled my own VPN, no issues. Won’t say how because I got my ass beat for recommending it last time.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 23 hours ago
Why do people still use YouTube if they hate it so much?
MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
TOR?
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Brb, gonna change the circuit 20 times to find that one exit IP that didn’t get blocked.
Also waiting 10 minutes for the video to load, xD
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 19 hours ago
I think you can change some config thing to have the exit node be in a certain country so it may help? (Thought i am not sure if there is, the last time i configurated anything was for using HTTP), also, i have had a good expirience with the speed on TOR, i am in europe, where are you?
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 22 hours ago
good. fuck VPNs
incompetent@programming.dev 21 hours ago
What’s wrong with VPNs for personal use? Serious question; I’ve never seen someone opposed to them.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
people use them to mask their identity and attack others online
discosnails@lemmy.wtf 21 hours ago
SystemL@literature.cafe 1 day ago
Welp.
At least nord has some protcol thing that should be able to avoid it
DrDystopia@lemy.lol 1 day ago
No, NordWhisper is for people to connect to the VPN, not for the VPN to connect to youtube. It’s all about what IP’s Google knows are VPN’s. If you’re blocked, switch server or country and try your luck.
SystemL@literature.cafe 22 hours ago
Normally if a website asks me to stop using my VPN I just switch to NordWhisper and it’s fixed.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 day ago
People don’t realize how much shit youtube/google ignores over time, for whatever reasons (but mostly because it’s cheaper to ignoer I’d guess). With most major consumer VPN providers, this is very easy to detect. Adblockers are easy to detect. Tampering with the website structure? Believe it or not, quite easy to detect when someone hide a component or change a title or a button.
If they decided to seriously get after people that circumvent geofencing, people that block ads, people that change the interface to their liking, or people that plainly use alternative websites, they could easily. And it would require far less effort on their end to keep things complicated than it would require on our end to keep things working at an acceptable level.
survirtual@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Only kind of true.
If they did implement all those measures, all you do is launch a puppet browser rendered off screen and scrape the content you want. This could work for any site and it is impossible for anyone to detect.
For ads, as a nuclear option, you can detect when they occur and black the stream out.
I would personally do this if left with no other option.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Cue detection of “realistic” human activity on the UI and preventing streaming if the server determine this activity does not match a human enough pattern.
I’m exaggerating on that one, but… that’s not even that implausible these days.
My point was, dancing this dance with “big website”, whoever it is, will always be an endless uphill battle.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 23 hours ago
Sometimes I do get YouTube telling me that I need to disable my adblocker to access a video, so they do try to block that stuff (though I suspect that the infrequency with which this happens combined with the fact that not everyone does experience it when some people do report this happening suggests that they’re just testing methods of detection and blocking)
Usually when it happens, I just go into my Ublock settings and update stuff. I can’t remember that ever not working. It feels like a low-key arms race, in a cold-war kind of way
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 hours ago
i use vorapis v3 cause they fucked with the video player.