Submitted 3 weeks ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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Just going to point out that the sun in the elder scrolls universe isn’t a ball of plasma and is infact a big ass hole in the fabric of reality from when Magnus pussies out of creation. So it is entirely possible that plants could grow without sunlight in the elder scrolls.
Also for any more specialized lore junkies are vampires hurt by the raw Magicka from the sun or is it more of a raw lumens thing?
Also also the Empire had a space program, do with that what you will.
Who art thou who are so wise in the ways of the elder scrolls
Do you get to the Cloud District very often? Oh, what am I saying, of course you don’t.
It is definitely the Magicka harming them, or it could be pedantry behind the curse because they seem fine in brightly lit rooms, you just rarely see them in one.
Also it could just be Molag Bal being a dick, daedric curses tend to have symbolism behind them. For example if memory serves right the reason werebeasts transform at night is because Hircine is honoring Lorkhan/Shor/Shezar who’s corpse is the moons, but not the necromancers moon that’s manimarco the god of necromancy.
I always assumed they prefer dark spaces because they have permanent night eye.
Like Riddick
also the Empire had a space program
Easily one of the best unintentional “easter eggs” I’ve seen in a video game.
No like legit they had a space program, pretty sure it’s Kirkbride lore but I’m pretty sure it’s still canon.
This is just a metaphor for capitalism. Capitalism will literally kill the earth and suck the population dry just so a few can enjoy their lives.
You give Bethesda slop too much credit
Friend did you play Skyrim?
I don’t mean to be all “Bethesda slop good” but the story they’re telling (outside the main quest) is pretty spot on regarding rampant racism and nationalism tearing apart a country already at the behest of a small cabal of criminals. Vampires living on a private island want to extinct the earth so they can hunt free for a couple years.
FR.
The only game of theirs that truly was allegorical and not simply cool for cool, edgy, or trying to squeeze in some hot topic buzz words and themes, was Morrowind.
And what it was allegorical to was basically a horned-up teenager’s demented fantsies.
I mean a billionaire would literally attempt this if you told him that he would be the number one billionaire if he blocks the sun out.
I’m sure there was a Simpsons episode on this.
Not just a random episode, too - it’s one of the plot points in Who Shot Mr Burns
Fortunately our most handsome politicians came up with a cheap last minute solution!
Check your vibes! Haha good one 😆
The writers had to justify calling it Skyrim
Let’s assume this is correct about surface plants needing the raw Magicka from the sun to live.
Blackreach is full of plants, many of which are edible, and receives no sunlight. Humanoids could just start farming the plants from Blackreach along with fungi. That should be enough to sustain a large enough population for Harkon and his court to feed on in their vampire paradise.
I’m surprised Harkon didn’t try to take Blackreach for himself. They’re immune to Falmer poison, they can use their full power without sunlight, they’re smarter and have access to invisibility, illusions, and charms.
In return he could have a country sized cavern, with at least two points of contact to Skyrim one either end, all the dwemer tech to hoard and use with their ancient knowledge. He could subjugate the falmer to be blood livestock, they’re already crafted to be good slaves by the dwemer.
He could slowly build up a vampire/thrall/dwemer machine army right under Skyrim then wage war overnight. Could even use dwemer machines by day to maintain territory until you complet this master prophecy you have.
Don’t even need the invisibility and illusion underground, just get good at ventriliquism.
Fungi, for the large part, feed on vegetable matter
I mean, if you’re going to force people into an underground cavern, why even have the extra step of blotting out the sun?
No, I’m saying cultivate the plant life from Blackreach on the surface after blotting out the sun
LOUD BLACKREACH NOISES
I’ve heard this one before…
I want to play a game one day where it has a character AI good enough to be able to point out something like that and have it affect the flow of that character’s story.
“Oh hum… you… make a good point. Ok, pivoting: let’s block out the sun but only on Tuesdays and Thursdays!”
As an example of a human written story: You can avoid the final boss fight in fallout 1 by calling out a similar flaw in the master’s plan. He will commit suicide.
Beautiful
DnD
We’ve had that in 1997 with Fallout.
You want to play a game called Fallout: New Vegas
Nah
It’s a very good game but it doesn’t have that kind of AI
seems unrelated but yeah play it anyway
Is it the light or the UV rays that kill them, because if it's just the UV rays, we have technology that can block them now.
It’s neither, It’s the gaze of the god auriel.
We stopped hearing credible stories of vampires around the same time we invented sunscreen.
Coincidence?
the ozone layer?
Nah, that's got a massive hole in it.
If you can prove skyrim’s plants and animals need sun to survive then his plan is stupid. Otherwise, its magic and theres no sound logic to anything so it wasnt worth mentioning in a fantasy setting.
The falmore adapted to live without sun, humans would do the same.
Also magic might be able to produce UV rays to allow mages and farmers to still grow crops.
Weren’t there plants that grew in caves?
Yeah, there were. but you could still argue that the cave plants still require a small amount of sun similar to real world moss, and if not it was probably a fungus or bacteria that can survive with no light.
This is what i assume the falmer would be mainly eating since they live in said enviorments. Meaning humans could potentially adapt to eat the same diet. Not even needing to use magic to farm as previously stated.
Yeah, I always found his plan stupid
Meanwhile, in Legacy of Kain:
Vampires: Uh, boss? You corrupted the pillars of Nosgoth - which is great and all - but now the sun kinda/sorta doesn’t work anymore. It’s always dusk.
Kain: So what you’re saying is that we vampires can move around freely. All the time.
Vampires: Won’t that eventually kill all the humans? Yanno, with no food and all?
Kain: ::shrugs:: Fuck 'em.
Did they need to eat humans in this lore?
IIRC, there were human survivors and hold-outs, but not many. Consequently, the vampire’s numbers were also rather small in turn. It was all a slow-moving apocalypse.
Really, it’s only just good enough of a backdrop for some really solid gameplay, set-pieces, and great voice-acting (well, for Soul Reaver anyway).
Same plothole as in the Matrix movies
What irks me most about this is that originally the idea was to use humans for their computing powers. But they changed it because they thought audiences wouldn’t be able to understand it.
Falmer do just fine without sunlight
And they taste terrible themselves I bet
Spoiler! I still haven’t plaxyd through Skyrim.
A lesson in sorting out that backlog before buying any more games also Darth Vader is Luke’s dad get wrecked
New quest: uncover the mystery of the crimson nirnroot
18107@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Sounds about as forward thinking as most politicians I know.
kautau@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That and “quarterly growth above all else” capitalism
jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yeah the vampire would have the start of one very fucking awesome quarter before the planet froze and became inhospitable to life.