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Submitted 11 months ago by misterdoctor@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 11 months ago
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You are the kind of person that makes a no men rule necessary.
misterdoctor@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A lot of them found this thread which is fun because that’s exactly who I made it for
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
We must treat oppressors and oppressed the same all the time in order to be fair. I’m a very smart person.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 11 months ago
We must treat all members of a majority group as oppressors. I am very intelligent.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 months ago
so can we get a community for whites only?
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What a horribly stupid question to ask.
Women and minority only spaces exist because white men as a group have historically discriminated against them, including by having men only and even whites only spaces. That kind of history never goes away really, because bigotry is frequently handed down from generation to generation even if some people are able to break the trend.
Source: am white man who can acknowledge reality without feeling guilty for being part of the group that does those things
loudwhisper@infosec.pub 11 months ago
~white~ men as a group
Unless you are suggesting women have not being discriminated in non-white communities?
Taleya@aussie.zone 11 months ago
Being a man can be anything you want and you chose…this.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 months ago
not sure if you noticed. this is a shitpost. so I chose to be a piece of shit.
enjoy that little kernel from my nugget.
SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 11 months ago
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 months ago
here comes the welcome wagon!
Impassionata@lemmy.world 11 months ago
are the last of the woke derangement syndrome sufferers on Lemmy??
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 months ago
no, they perforate the bowels of the internet like colorectal cancer and feed off the shitposts that you have found yourself in.
brown567@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Oh crap!
I checked, and I’ve made one comment there (deleted by mods). Sorry XD
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Easy to miss when it pops up in the all feed every so often. If you’re not paying attention you might just do it.
pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Not a big deal, it’s more meant towards preventing the "As a man … " comments that pile on to tell women why they’re wrong
Fredselfish@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Me too. Didn’t know the rule. Also that sexist. But hell as man Askwomen on Reddit would delete a post if made by a man.
PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Clearly the solution here is a publicly seen WomenStuff with whitelisted posters, and an ancillary public community called PeanitsGallery where all talk about the WomenStuff.
hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Spell it with a double e for max effect. PeenitsGallery
BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
Peanits gallery is a great name actually
MBM@lemmings.world 11 months ago
If not commenting is too hard… maybe a setting where you can only comment if you’ve subscribed would be cool
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Any space that is publicly available is a public space.
That goes for the internet, too.
Segregation does not lead to good things.
If it is bad for incels to form men only spaces that inevitably will lead to their bigoted rhetoric being unchecked and validated, then it is bad for any other group to do that based on sex, gender, or race.
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 11 months ago
It is public, youre right. That’s why anyone can post to it. The rule is if you admit to not being a woman, you get banned.
gigachad@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
REDACTED@infosec.pub 11 months ago
From my own experience, women-only spaces tend to revolve around men, ironically. I can almost bet my left ball on the fact that top post on that sub is about men, not women.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
anything that excludes you is a “echo chamber circlejerk”? that’s a pretty harmful way to think. You should do some introspection and double-check if this is a mentality you want to live your life by.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 11 months ago
anything that excludes you is a “echo chamber circlejerk”?
This is such a shallow and stupid way of thinking. Was this your best strawman argument?
You should do some introspection and double-check if this is a mentality you want to live your life by.
I do. I generally look at groups who disregard or make fun of others purely based on race or gender as not mentally healthy places to be in, like incel subreddits.
The formula tends to also be quite simple - take something a man/woman says, then find a funny counter-argument in the thread, screenshot the two together and you got a post. Does not matter which gender we’re talking about, it’s pretty much always the same. Some reddit subreddits were borderline extremist in this approach, showing signs of aggression or calls for violence towards women.
UpperBroccoli@feddit.org 11 months ago
Tisk tisk tisk. Bottom surgery for free, huh? Clever scheme.
ToxicWaste@lemmy.cafe 11 months ago
easy self-check for these things:
is it OK for group A to do X? is it OK for group B to do X? …
if the answer is not the same for all the groups you can reasonably think of, something about your morals is off.
not everyone will agree whether X is OK to do. but at least you can detect, whether you are biased yourself.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
A bit of nuance would go a long way to not generalize things here…
Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s okay for toddlers to attend daycare. It is not okay for race jockeys to attend daycare.
Guess I need to check my biases.
MintyAnt@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Easy self-check on these comments:
Does the poster have a name like “TOXIC WASTE”?
If so, seek advice elsewhere
AlDente@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I personally shy away from the idea of binary labels. Whenever you have two opposing extremes, I find hard to believe that someone can be the 100% embodiment of one and 0% of the other. Whether it’s ‘authoritarian/libertarian’, ‘left/right’, ‘straight/gay’, ‘neurotypical/neurodivergent’, or dare I say, ‘male/female’, I see all of these as a spectrum. Whenever binary opposites exist, I believe we all fall somewhere in the middle.
To say that someone is 0% man or 0% woman seems to reinforce the idea that these labels are based on physical characteristics, concrete, and/or absolute. If you believe that personal identity is fluid, and that change is constant, then how can you reckon with the idea of someone being 100% either? It won’t be possible to swing upward passed 100%, so the only other option is down; into the gray area and constantly wavering over time.
As for myself, I might have been born with a penis, but have plenty of characteristics that I would not consider “manly.” I strongly prefer to sit on a toilet to rather than use a urinal, I’ve worn a skirt around my home and fantasized about having breasts and beautiful hair, and my Spotify wrapped from last year classified me as a “pink Pilates princess”. I’m absolutely not presenting these to declare myself a woman, but I suspect each of these admissions would diminish my standing as “man”, especially in a non-anonymous environment.
If anyone was ever unsure about their gender identity, experimenting, or just non-committal to a binary gender assignment, I can see how a having another individual assign this black/white classification on them (and banning them as a consequence) would be incredibly stressful and harmful to their wellbeing. With how gray gender identity can be, it is no surprise if someone in this mindset doesn’t push back with a claim of the opposite binary choice; the sex on their birth certificate. I believe this kind of moderation serves to reinforce conservative societal norms and discourage empathy across the gender spectrum.
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
🫡
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I pulled a ban commenting before I knew they were in full echo chamber mode. Nothing of value has been lost. The whole thing though begs the question are there men only places on lemmy? So I can block them as well.
misterdoctor@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Nothing of value has been lost.
This is true but probably not how you meant.
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No, I’m pretty sure its how I meant it. I responded to some post about how they as woman were under no obligation to be polite if a man made them nervous. I’m under no obligation to make them comfortable if they are rude and hostile for me just existing in the same space as them. I have never harmed a woman and for the most part ignore them. I have no physical desire for anyone and haven’t had any for nearly twenty years. They can hate me for existing but I don’t have to respect them for it. I don’t have to make them feel safe.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Honestly, excluding any gender from commenting on the public internet is fucking braindead stupid. Also - how do they define “woman”?
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
you can read the rules and sidebar on !WomensStuff@lazysoci.al
Bubbey@lemmy.world 11 months ago
[deleted]lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
Anyone who claims to be?
fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Which is… ?
Emotional@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
what makes it “braindead stupid”?
Gustephan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I just block that community. Not like out of malice or anything but it prevents me from commenting on a post without looking at the comm name. I try to make a habit of not spending time in places where I am not welcome
absolutejank@lemmy.world 11 months ago
fuck that bullshit. while they do have the right to exclude who they want, i have the right to be harshly critical. and i will say that any community where one is compelled to disclose any part of their identity as a requirement to participate is a toxic one. i suspect any account is subject to being pressured into proving they aren’t a man if the mods want to harass someone that way. this is why i am not and will never be a feminist in a million years.
BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You had a point, than you killed it with the unrelated last sentence lol.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
this is why i am not and will never be a feminist in a million years.
while i get your sentiment, there’s a lot of difference between feminism as it’s practiced today and feminism as it should be.
i do think that females are superior creatures and deserve all the admiration and respect
but the way it’s currently implemented is horseshit bullshit. it revolves too much around mocking men and creating an artificial and unnecessary schism in society instead of making sure that everybody can lead a good life, including strong social safety nets (economically) and advocating for things that benefit everyone.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Stupid expectation to have. If they want women posts/comments only, lemmy needs a feature for communities not to be advertised on the main page unless subscribed, to keep people from accidentally replying. Or does that feature exist and they are intentionally not using it?
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Im not gonna adjust my behavior you should adjust your expectations
least entitled male
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
that would make discovery of the sub by women way harder
ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oh ffs, I thought that rule only applied to posts and comments going “as a man…”. God damn it, I was just trying to make sure my perspective isn’t echo-chambered and my one or two comments there were appropriate and being supportive to the women who participate there.
Mia culpa I guess, mods of that sub feel free to go and delete my comments in that sub if they violated the rule because I’ll leave it up to your judgement to decide.
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
What do you mean “if” lol, clean up after yourself. Also what do you think “womenonly” meant??
Pacattack57@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What if I identify as both?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
It says in the sidebar that anyone who doesn’t exclusively identify as male can decide if they think a women’s community is a good fit for them.
Darth_Lemmy@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
then you need to seek help
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I hope you realize “help”/therapy so many people have told me to get as a trans women literally accept me and got me on HRT.
the ““help”” you want is torture
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Hello this is the TVA. Your opinion has been displaced from time and must be returned to 1942.
thatradomguy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I did this accidentally the other day.
glitchdx@lemmy.world 11 months ago
gonna be honest, I don’t read the sidebar for 99% of subs that pop up in the all feed. Hell, I didn’t even check what sub I’m in now until halfway through typing this comment.
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Im a dude who posts on femcels a lot because i like the memes. but I kinda like dick so iono i think i get a pass?
MintyAnt@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oh no :(
DimFisher@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I just came here to say it’s a men’s world they live in it and many times they hate us for it, but it’s the truth.
Gonzako@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah, they can be real mean in their locker talk
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
The way i see it, the right to free speech is a two-sided thing. If there’s a right to free speech for one side, there’s also a right not to listen for the other side. It’s ok to block a community to not have to see their content if you’re not allowed to talk back at them.
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Damn, lotta moid seething itt
Maeve@kbin.earth 11 months ago
I think I remember that post and said you're correct.
bawdy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I am pretty disappointed eh. For obvious reasons.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
what’s obvious to one might not be obvious to another
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
[deleted]UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
Deleted my comment in solidarity with said rule.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 11 months ago
I pardon you for respecting the rule o7 (wish some other people would do that too, it happens way to often that people post their kinda shitty opinions in the comments)