The Band Insomnium didnt act in the Covid pandemy, because their guitarrist was working in the creation of vaccines.
Arts & STEM
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Zerush@lemmy.ml 19 hours ago
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
it’s fucked up the number of amazingly talented metal musicians who have to keep down day jobs… mostly in stem.
shoutout to the tech death guys specifically, who keep being in programming.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Have to? Many metalheads are dorks and want to do these gigs.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
Insomnium is one of my most favorite bands, but certainly its hard for an nordic Metalband in a country where are at least 5-6 good Metalbands in every little village.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I almost had that path, except I had almost abandoned playing the guitar one time due to a multitude of reasons, and haven’t fully recovered since. Now I work as a desk clerk so I can chase my gamedev ambitions, could not find a better one due to discrimination against me.
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
That’s why we have STEAM now :)
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
Throw marketing and HR majors in there with business majors as the triumvirate of just literally evil and useless people, and I’m on board.
I say this as a person with an Econ degree.
We are not all evil, in fact most of us fucking despise business majors, as business is what you switch your Econ major to if you’re too stupid to actually understand advanced math, modelling, statistical analysis, as well as actual long term business strategy, and usually at least some coding proficiency in something like R or at least Python libs geared toward data crunching.
But somehow these idiot assholes end up being our bosses and we usually end up being their subordinate data analysts of some kind, basically because they master the arcane power of corpospeak, aka, professional gaslighting.
Likewise, accountants, actuaries?
Those are actual real degrees, you have to memorize an utterly astounding amount of essentially arbitrary laws and regulations, and if you go full actuary, some of the most complex statistics on earth, in some cases literally more complex and mind bending than what many theoretical physicists have to learn.
Anyway, most data oriented nerds are at least mildly autistic and realize they are generally not so good with people skills, nor the visually artistic kind of creativity… but we are generally self-aware of this, and realize that other people with other kinds of intelligences are needed if we want our data and analysis to actually be listened to.
Finally: HR and Marketing majors are all narcissistic sociopaths who are also too stupid to complete their psychology degrees, which they really only ever pursued to become more skilled sociopaths.
… Uh there, oops, I may have just written at least part of OP’s essay.
untorquer@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Shocking that someone with a major that requires lots of writing would have similarities with model that simply copies the writing style with the largest sample size.
Your essay needs more Queen. “…most data oriented nerds are at least mildly autistic” might be a bit of a strong statement but they’re at the very least more compatible socially than the rest of the populace.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
Oh no, I failed a purity test by not being inclusive enough, but also it simultaneously was not edgy nor controversial enough at the same time!
I am autistic. I am speaking both from personal experience and also personally knowing a bunch of other autists I went to university with.
So uh, misfire on the inclusivity purity test there, unless you’re gonna call me a self hating autist, in which case, ok lol.
You’re really gonna tell the autistic guy that he sounds like a robot, you know kind of a massively rude thing to do to an autist, who gets to hear that dehumanizing shit their whole life… you’re gonna tell me that and then also critique me for not being inclusive enough.
Amazing.
This doesn’t ‘need’ Queen, it is meant to be my authentic personal opinion, I do not identify as or with Queen, or use Queen mannerisms or phrasings. Took me a long time to learn that anyone that demands I mask for them isn’t someone worth much of my time.
Jumping from doing … some incredibly vague, unspecified, but nonetheless structural writing critique… directly into a totally subjective, personal preferences critique of the content of the writing, seemingly without even realizing you’ve done this…
Pretty much means you either aren’t well versed in English, or you’re intentionally conflating the two in bad faith.
I dare you to find any ChatGPT or similar LLM that naturally outputs written content that simply has as many … as I arguably overuse, consistently writes compound sentences with as many clauses as I use routinely, not to mention suggests intonation the way I do with bold italics.
Uh, um, in conclusion, in this essay I have shown that you have no clue what you’re talking about.
odelik@lemmy.today 9 hours ago
There’s been a push in higher education and professional markets for a STEAM education paradigm over STEM. Especially when you consider that there’s a ton of crossover between tradition STEM education and arts in modern day professionals (User Experience relies on all 5 domains for delivering truly great UX for example).
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
In Canada we call it STEAM now. Because where the hell do you think design comes from?
GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 1 day ago
In Europe we have GOG instead
G - science technology engineering maths O - ond G - gumanitiesT156@lemmy.world 1 day ago
G - gumanities
Or as we like to call it, GNU/Gumanities.
ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
why is this so fucking funny
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
My subjective interpretation of STEM is “degrees you need to know calculus for”. They’re all math heavy, with precise answers. While the arts are certainly important, I just don’t see how they fit that motif. What is this supposed to accomplish?
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Art is about analyzing the questions, design is about analyzing the solutions. Many engineers I’ve met get wrapped up in the process and fail to address the actual issues.
This guy is the textbook example. His projects always go down deadends and lose scope. He would definitely be better off with some CAD (Cardboard Aided Design) before he runs off to his CNC mill with a $200 block of aluminum.
Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 22 hours ago
I don’t think I’ve had anything calculus related in my biology degree.
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 day ago
I agree.
The more wild version I saw of STEAM had Agriculture as the A. I also felt that was redundant since modern agriculture involves a lot of science (biology) and engineering (equipment).
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You need calculus for vibe coding?
BussyCat@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So I’d that just all college degrees besides business?
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Yea. All the real collegiate degrees and the bullshit degree.
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 day ago
GabeN I guess ?
MBM@lemmings.world 15 hours ago
Wasn’t STEAM supposed to be something specific, not a replacement of STEM? Idk, I just know the acronym because Angela Collier did a video.
niktemadur@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Damn, they got to him before he could get it out.
Curse you, lizard overlords!MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 4 hours ago
IDK, business people tend to make a LOT of money from successful artists, so if anything, they should encourage this.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I fully agree. But once those who should be business majors enter a field everything about it gets worse.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
A slightly nicer way to put this is profit incentives frequently cause negative externalities.
damdy@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
I went to a London university. Most the departments were essentially as diverse as the population, but business undergrads were 80% black British, and everyone knows they hate queen. Is this the conspiracy we’ve been warned about?
(This is very clearly a joke I hope and I have utter respect for everyone.)
elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
I’ve been waiting 12 years for this fuggin essay
CromulantCrow@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
A thousand apologies for bringing Chat GPT into this assignment, but, well, I couldn’t help myself.
In this essay I will explore how the artificial divide between Arts and STEM disciplines has been perpetuated, the consequences of this separation, and the immense potential that lies in their collaboration. Using the example of Queen—a band whose members’ diverse academic backgrounds fueled their creative genius—I will argue that the intersection of artistic imagination and scientific rigor is not only possible, but essential for innovation and progress. Furthermore, I will examine the role that societal structures, particularly those influenced by business interests, have played in maintaining this divide, and how overcoming it could empower individuals and communities alike.
First, let us consider the origins of this divide. Historically, the “Two Cultures” debate, popularized by C.P. Snow in the mid-20th century, framed the arts and sciences as fundamentally incompatible. This narrative has been reinforced by educational systems that require students to choose between creative and analytical paths early in their academic careers. As a result, students often internalize the belief that they must be either “artistic” or “scientific,” rarely both. This false dichotomy not only limits personal growth but also stifles the kind of interdisciplinary thinking that leads to groundbreaking achievements.
Queen’s story challenges this narrative. Brian May’s background in astrophysics, Roger Taylor’s training in dentistry, Freddie Mercury’s art school experience, and John Deacon’s expertise in electronics all contributed to the band’s unique sound and stage presence. Their music is a testament to the power of combining technical skill with artistic vision—an approach that has resonated with millions and stood the test of time.
But why does this divide persist? Here, I return to the business major, a metaphor for the systems and structures that benefit from keeping Arts and STEM apart. In a world where creativity and technical knowledge are siloed, those who control the means of production and distribution—often with business backgrounds—can more easily exploit both groups. By fostering competition rather than collaboration, they ensure that neither side realizes its full potential, maintaining the status quo and their own position of power.
The consequences of this separation are profound. When artists and scientists work in isolation, society misses out on innovations that require both creative insight and technical expertise. From medical breakthroughs inspired by artistic anatomy studies to technological advances driven by aesthetic design, history is full of examples where collaboration has led to extraordinary results.
In conclusion, the supposed rift between Arts and STEM is not a natural divide, but a constructed barrier that serves the interests of a select few. By recognizing our shared potential and fostering interdisciplinary collaboration, we can unlock new possibilities and create a more vibrant, innovative, and equitable society. Just as Queen’s members combined their diverse talents to create music that transcends genres, so too can we bridge the gap between art and science to achieve greatness together.
CromulantCrow@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Replying to my own comment, I think the best tell that this is AI generated is the — character. There’s not even a key on the keyboard for that. Alt-0151 (on the keypad) is the only way I know how to get it.
lime@feddit.nu 1 day ago
i think macos inserts those automatically if you do three dashes.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
The emdash is a dead giveaway, but its mostly the high school level writing style.
It is astonishingly uncreative and simplistic with sentence structure, it just directly regurgitates the points from its prompt it was specifically directed to address, there’s no clever or compelling phrasing or larger metaphor, there’s no personality ir expressiveness, willingness to say something maybe a bit edgy or controversial, very neutered and bland writing style… and there’s no consecutive introduction of, then expanding on nor synthesis of concepts, all the references are just mentioned, explained, addressed, discarded, onto the next one, like so many bullet points that need to be fluffed up to hit a word count.
Finally… did you intentionally prompt it to emulate the ‘in this essay i will…’ ‘self contained, non referential body paragraphs’ ‘in conclusion, here’s a few sentences that could have been the entire essay’ … did you intetionally tell it to mimic this extremely basic writing style?
Or did it just… do all of that on its own, like the mean average of five million highschool sophomore book reports?
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
There is a key for — on my phone. Just hold down the - key and it pops up as an option. I use it all the time.
ToastedCoconuts@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
My organic chemistry professor spent a solid 30 minutes explaining the difference between an em dash and an en dash so we could use them correctly in our lab reports. Then ended his little lecture with saying "They're in the special character menu of your word processor. Unless you're on Mac, then I suggest googling them."
I don't think any of us used either dash, but I'm just sad no one called him on his BS lol
ThoGot@feddit.org 23 hours ago
My laptop can do the — when I press AltGr and -
darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I think the best tell that this is AI generated is the — character. There’s not even a key on the keyboard for that.
Then you must have a really crappy keyboard.
MBM@lemmings.world 15 hours ago
Somehow it feels like this whole essay could be summarized in a single paragraph of, say, 3 proper sentences
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Yes, that is correct, this is the basic 5 paragraph small essay structure:
Intro paragraph - I am going to say blah blah.
Body paragraphs (ususlly 3, can be more) - each particular point of blah blah, explained in a self contained manner, that doesn’t reference or build upon anything other body paragraphs.
Conclusion paragraph - I said blah blah.
This is a writing style typically taught to middle schoolers, 20 years ago, before we spent 20 years passing every failing student onto the next grade becauase otherwise the school will shut down.
It is meant to be an introduction to the concept of writing in a longer form than just answering a single question with basically one paragraph.
It is not meant to be good, compelling, moving or engaging writing… it is meant to be the bridge between basic and intermediate levels of literacy.
Writing in this manner almost always can be boiled down to maybe a couple of sentences, basically you could just rewrite the conclusion with a bit more detail, and there ya go.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Apology unaccepted. Have my dislike.
Klear@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
This may have been a remotely funny comment if OP wasn’t downvoted to oblivion.
elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
Tl;dr
blindsight@beehaw.org 1 day ago
ngl, that’s a pretty good persuasive essay. Since the OP gave the prompt, it also took creative risks with an essay topic that is original, and doesn’t just parrot the consensus opinion on a well-trodden topic.
I’d give this a really good grade up to grade 11.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Dear god I hope you aren’t a teacher, I was writing better than this in middle school.
Taleya@aussie.zone 18 hours ago
Splash in finance and you get Offspring
plyth@feddit.org 23 hours ago
So, how can society overcome the rift?
qarbone@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Destroy business. Cast it back into the hellfires from which it came.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
in this essay I
TW
halvar@lemy.lol 1 day ago
I find fault in the reasoning, it’s probably the bussiness majors that profited the most from any band ever by pocketing half of whatever money they made.
zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
They make more profit from monetizing water
MrShankles@reddthat.com 1 day ago
The “fault in reasoning” you describe is saying the same thing: there’s no reward from art and science for business majors, so they must instead gain from (Art/STEM) by weakening them. Capitalize on profit and extract reward from (Art/STEM), because business majors themselves, can’t extract reward from the original process
*** This is not an endorsement of my own opinion. I’m talking out my ass and have no relevant sources to back my statement, nor stake in any claim. Just typing words off the dome and trying to sound coherent for possible discussive-hypotheticals
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 day ago
So they are the root cause of all evil