Who needs it?

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• Sneptaur@pawb.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  China doesn’t need TikTok to get your data. They can just buy it from data brokers, lol.

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  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or sell you ads AND not have to pay for it, while also influencing us algorithmically directly. If that’s even the case, that is, which, who even fucking knows anymore. And I’m not even sure we needed tiktok to be pissed at wrongdoings everywhere, including Chinese government wrongdoings. Honestly, tiktok’s algorithm is better than basically any other algorithmic app right now, save for the fact that it obviously is getting very up to date information through my phone somehow.

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• modifier@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Can I just brag for a moment? I feel like I am among my people, and there is a little lesson at the end.

  to calibrate: White dude in my 40s, nerdy by nature but non-technical in my education/employment

  Twitter - signed up in the early 2000s when it first came out, pretty much stopped using by 2011

  Facebook - signed up in the early 2000s when it first got big, pretty much stopped using by 2011, deleted my abandoned account last year

  Google +, I’m sure I never signed up, but I had an account that I never used. Google being google negated me ever having to contemplate whether or not I would ever use it

  Snapchat - never used

  TikTok - never used

  Instagram - never used

  Are there others? I don’t know.

  Reddit was the only “social media” I ever used for a sustained period of time and the only one where I felt part of any sort of community. I left reddit in June of 2023 when I made this account and I’ve never been back.

  So, in many ways, I am successfully resisting/avoiding “the algorithm” and I am a good example of high media literacy with good resistance to manipulation by social media.

  But, just to emphasize why community itself is so valuable and worthy of exploitation by techbros, here are life changes I’ve made since joining Lemmy, even without any algorithms or dark patterns. Not that Lemmy is strictly causal in all of these, but the relationship is there:

  • I am now making my way through TNG, and am generally more Trek-literate

  • Linux, natch

  • Cancelled all streaming services (honestly most ‘subscription services’) in favor of a NAS running Plex (for now, will probably move to Jellyfin), Calibre, AudioBookshelf, Immich, Joplin, NextCloud, etc, etc, etc

  • Now using Steam Deck as my daily driver for gaming

  In other words, though I prize my independent thinking and avoidance of Big Cloud, and though I think all of these are positive changes representing a positive influence, I am clearly impressionable. And so are you.

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  • Justdaveisfine@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It seems like you got your taste of social media, decided you were essentially done with it and moved on.

    I am just about in the same boat, I feel social media doesn’t offer me much that I value, and so I have been looking elsewhere.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I never even signed up for Twitter.

    The modern internet makes me want to live in a cave and grow moss.

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    • modifier@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That isn’t an accident.

      There is this insight that I remember reading about internet scams, that they are poor quality with lots of misspelling by design. According to what I’ve read, this acts as a useful filter: If you’re smart enough to pick up on things like misspellings, we don’t want to waste our time scamming you.

      That is now essentially the entire ethos of the modern internet.

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  • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Got you beat. I’ve never used any social media except for reddit (if that counts). I also have never used a smart phone.

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  • vodka@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    twitter early 2000s

    2006 counts as early 2000s and not mid 2000s?

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    • modifier@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There is a lot of heated debate about this. They’re saying due to COVID, that “early” can mean anything from 0-8 now, which obviously I don’t understand but what can you do? They are saying it.

      I must assume from your helpful correction that 2006 is the actual year twitter came out but even then I literally cannot be arsed to look that up on purpose because, I cannot stress this enough, I very much do not care about social media, as per my comment. So if you say 2006, that is what we’re going with.

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• alekwithak@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  More like Buys the same data from Meta but okay.

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• NONE_dc@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I have a Xiaomi phone. They already know everything about me.

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  • TachyonTele@lemm.ee ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My gf had xiaomi once. Had the visit the doctors a lot before it cleared up.

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Haha this joke is funny because foreigners have funny words and sound stupid

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• FourWaveforms@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I already get the same thing from the YouTube app which won’t shut the fuck up about Shorts

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  • teamevil@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Uninstalling that app was a game changer…so much better on browser with unblock origin running.

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    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fr if something works in browser I will never use the app.

      Some exceptions for things which require better encryption.

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    • HollowNaught@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Uuuuuse a foss youtube frontend wooooooo like freetube woooooooooo…

      (Insert other ghostly noises)

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  • FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    YouTube shorts are fantastic. You have to be into misogyny though.

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    • rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My shorts are just cats and dogs acting silly and the rare REPO clip…

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    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I sign out to view shorts, clear site data, then manually search a couple of “seed” videos I like to get the algorithm picking out new stuff.

      It won’t even show you anything unless you have some viewing history. It’s just straight up broken for people who have had accounts for many years.

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  • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t get Shorts. I can’t watch them on my PlayStation, if I click on one on the phone app it’ll disconnect the PlayStation and force me to watch it on my phone.

    If you try to upload a video that is less than a minute long, it forces you to do Shorts.

    I also don’t get why opening up a community thread or something pauses the video I’m watching on the PlayStation.

    I’ve also noticed lately that when I connect the phone app with the PlayStation, about 30% of the time, the video will play extremely slow without sound. I have to close and reboot the YouTube app on the PlayStation to watch anything afterwards.

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• TachyonTele@lemm.ee ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  China a perfect communist motherland that doesn’t need anyones secrets!

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  • abbadon420@lemm.ee ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yes, I also live China and their all-seeing government.

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• thal3s@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Unpopular Opinion: You folks are missing out.

  TikTok is home to some of the most hardcore leftists you’ve ever seen and has content about how to fix our current fascism problem that’ll get you banned on Meta instantly.

  It’s also a great to see what real people are taking about since they’re walking down the street or in their cars speaking as a genuine human.

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  • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No thanks. Lemmy isn’t great by any means but social media is poison and a direct cause of the current state of affairs

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  • mriormro@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Lol, yeah no thanks. Tiktok isn’t reality.

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  • xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I already have Mastodon for that which is almost entirely made up of transfem devs

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• cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I mean, I have it installed, but I have it installed in a “sandbox” (Co-opting androids work profile feature) I use Insular

  But looking now, it seems it hasn’t been updated in a year so I might have to look for an alternative soon if it has issues when I upgrade to Android 16 lol

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  • forgetful_fox@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Look into Shelter, it works on latest Android though it’s been several months since the last update.

    gitea.angry.im/PeterCxy/Shelter

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• MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Better to get your data spied on by China than by the USA who might share it with your home country 👀

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  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    See this implies that your home country is more likely to rob and kill you than China, which simply isn’t true in 9/10 cases.

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    • MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What? How is china likely to rob or kill me, or you?

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    • Nelots@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I believe you are far more likely to be killed by your home country than china in most cases, simply by the fact that china isn’t near most of us. By no means is it a great place, but china is not exactly out there sending hit men to take out some random Joe because of the videos they were watching.

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    • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Except in this timeline

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• culprit@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  TikTok

  TeleMessage

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• dephyre@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Big brain move, let’s make them buy our data from someone else. 🙌

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• Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  US tiktok data has been hosted by Oracle on their own servers on US soil for several years now, China doesn’t have access to it. Also they can and do just buy your user data from US companies. If you don’t like Tiktok then you don’t have to use it, but fear of Chinese surveillance is a stupid reason to avoid the app.

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  • mdd@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    China most likely has access.

    mashable.com/…/tiktok-china-access-data-in-us

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    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nothing in this article or anywhere else presents any actual evidence that the Chinese government ever had direct access to US user data, and the claims presented here all predate the transition to Oracle servers, which were conducted in cooperation with the US government specifically to ensure that US user data wouldn’t be available to the Chinese government. The easiest route to our data has been and continues to be buying it from US companies, which is still completely legal.

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• NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I wonder what the proportional value is of all the actionable data that’s ever been extracted from date lakes versus the cost of gathering it all. Probably not even as good as people think given the difficulty of evaluating that as a metric.

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  • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨42⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Value enough for billions and billions of dollars industries to develope apparently

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• finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They still know your name, phone number, relationships, and every piece of info ever supplied to or from you in a text message going back as far as it is recorded on every phone which has ever downloaded the app. Your mother, your brother, your sister, your ex.

  It’s a cruel and terrible world for those who aren’t ignorant.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They still know your name, phone number, relationships, and every piece of info ever supplied to or from you in a text message going back as far as it is recorded on every phone which has ever downloaded the app.

    Only because they bought the info off Microsoft, Facebook, and Google.

    It’s a cruel and terrible world for those who aren’t ignorant.

    At some point, being terminally anxious over the idea that a Chinese bureaucrat has access to a stack of high school yearbooks does nothing of benefit. There’s a long term material benefit to simply staying off social media (particularly the bigger instances) in a few rare but critical circumstances. But for virtually everyone else, none of this shit matters.

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• mo_lave@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Teleporno: Tell me where is Godric? For I much desire to know his secrets.

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• straightjorkin@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  More like “keep your nazis”. The place is fucking infested and every report comes back with “no violation” for literal double lightning bolts and posting that one anti-semetic wojak.

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• PillowTalk420@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I like some of the content, but will not download the app either. I mostly just want to talk to other people anyway. The funny pictures and videos are just a bonus.

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