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- Comment on Sooo, where did the blatant Nazism suddenly come from? 1 hour ago:
On one hand, yes, these people are pathetic and have little idea what the symbols they’re playing with truly mean beyond white supremacy. And yes, it is useful (and fun) to mock farcists.
On the other hand, some of these people are (literally) astronomically rich, in bed with leaders of one of the most powerful military forces ever to exist, and the others are those supported by these rich haute-booj oligarchs (just like the original Blackshirts and Brownsharts were supported by landowners and maginates). A Nazi salute, understood with respect to history and the powerplay of today, is personal to many people. If it’s a teenage edgelord fucking around to get a reaction, sure, dismiss them or let them ‘find out’, but Musk and Bannon are people with huge influence over politicians and mass media. Elon Musk, for example, literally owns a pervasive media platform. They can start sizable rallies gathering both the batshit unhinged and the ideologically driven, armed and hungry.
So if you’re someone who the Nazis would have sent to the extermination camps (and there are many, many groups that were, basically most of humanity), then that salute is someone with state power declaring they want you dead. I wouldn’t call it insulting as much as a credible death threat.
- Comment on For No Reason in Particular Here's a Bunch of Games Where You Kill Nazis 2 weeks ago:
are actually very well defined
Eh, I can’t quite agree with “very well defined”. Even Nazism isn’t really internally coherent, it’s surprisingly nonsensical, let alone all the variants of fascism straying so far from classical fascism.
But that’s me nitpicking academically. Fascist organizations are crystal clear about their association, beliefs and what they want. When they heil or wear neo-Nazi symbols in a political context, there’s no longer any need to doubt.
It is a concerted effort to redefine or undefine them so there is no longer a word to describe them.
Absolutely. Nazis have been made very aware that most communities reject them on sight and so wolf-whistling and pathetic attempts of plausible deniability are used to pretend they’re just ‘regular’ patriotic nationalists (see: Musk salute, and this related salute overseas a few weeks earlier). But even then, these are paper thin attempts. “You’re the real nazis!” “Oh everyone’s a nazi these days!” “Actually they were a specific party at a specific place at a specific time!”, you just gotta laugh.
- Comment on For No Reason in Particular Here's a Bunch of Games Where You Kill Nazis 2 weeks ago:
Nazism refers to a school of political beliefs. It’s not some vague unknowable thing, a Nazi is perfectly capable of advocating for Nazism using speech and symbolism. So don’t pretend they have no clue what a Nazi advocates.
No, killing a Nazi does not make someone “the Nazi”. It would be nice if you didn’t trivialize atrocities like the Holocaust.
- Comment on For No Reason in Particular Here's a Bunch of Games Where You Kill Nazis 2 weeks ago:
People who self-identify as Nazis, as well as those knowingly in neo-Nazi organizations, are therefore perfectly valid targets of assassination. Historically, such people are seen as national heroes, so don’t give me that ‘winning people over to your side of history’ junk.
When it is strategically effective to shoot a Nazi, and it often is, then I advocate you do so without hesitation. Where it is not strategically effective, I advocate the myriad of nonviolent techniques put in use by antifascists. These are preferred, not because of some silly claims that Nazis should not be harmed, but because they’re safer and more sustainable than individual actions.
Listen closely to what a Nazi wants, yes even the ‘cosplay Nazis’, and think about whether their life is more important than stopping their goal of mass extermination.
- Comment on Anon experiences German humor 4 weeks ago:
haha that one’s rough! That said, you can put a lot in a junk car.
- Comment on Anon experiences German humor 4 weeks ago:
o hohohohohoho!
- Comment on Anon experiences German humor 4 weeks ago:
It’s neat that the ant joke’s pun translates into English, good pick.
- Comment on Anon experiences German humor 4 weeks ago:
The Wikipedia page on East German jokes has a few Trabant jokes.
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What’s the best feature of a Trabant? – There’s a heater at the back to keep your hands warm when you’re pushing it.
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A new Trabi has been launched with two exhaust pipes – so you can use it as a wheelbarrow.
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How do you double the value of a Trabant? – Fill it with gas.
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The back page of the Trabant manual contains the local bus schedule.
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Four men were seen carrying a Trabant. Somebody asks them why? Was it broken? They reply: “No, nothing wrong with it, we’re just in a hurry.”
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How do you catch a Trabi? – Place a piece of chewing gum on the road. (Allusion to weak engine.)
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- Comment on Anon gets rid of crackheads 4 weeks ago:
I half-expected the German radical left-wing to keep rents low by shooting into the landlords with firearms.
- Comment on Anon is triggered by RedNote 4 weeks ago:
Correct, that screenshot is from /leftypol/
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- Comment on Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted? 2 months ago:
I can’t remember anyone justifying out of personal dislike or popularity. Their justification is that this person’s actions are mass social murder, suggesting that such anti-social people deserve to be killed if the legal system refuses to punish and deter them. The fact that people generally hate a mass killer is incidental, it’s not the reason they deserve a punishment.
There are good arguments against vigilantism in general, and while I don’t fully agree in this specific case, I respect them as valid reasons. But to say this assassin is being given a free pass just because people don’t like them is absurd.
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- Comment on You don't need to answer this 2 months ago:
haha rabid in what way?
- Comment on Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted? 2 months ago:
He didn’t get murdered for being unpopular.
- Comment on Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted? 2 months ago:
Morality is subjective, no real system can truly decide what is evil. But in this case we’re talking about, it’s pretty clear cut that the CEO was a willful threat to the health of millions. This isn’t some abstract slippery slope of dubious vigilantism, might as well be claiming that the assassination attempts on Hitler were a gateway to Mad Max dystopia.
- Comment on Words reportedly written onto ammunition found at scene of health insurance CEO's killing [USA] 2 months ago:
Why?
- Comment on Words reportedly written onto ammunition found at scene of health insurance CEO's killing [USA] 2 months ago:
“N00B”? Maybe as banter to dunk on the scrub, but that CEO had years of experience killing. It was a boss fight.
- Comment on Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted? 2 months ago:
We’ve collectively agreed to put the law above
I don’t remember agreeing to these laws. I break the dumbest ones constantly. Laws are made by politicians who are controlled by the owning class. They are enforced on us, not developed by us. That’s why corporations and their board of directors can rape the earth and kill thousands and millions while you and me can get jailed for petty little things.
- Comment on Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted? 2 months ago:
Who’s he going to pick next?
This was not a random or petty attack. Their message on the bullet casings makes it clear they were attacking this person because they’ve knowingly helped enable incomprehensible amounts of human suffering on a scale of millions.
I understand that vigilantism, speaking generally, has its own serious dangers. But speaking specifically, this person is clearly not a threat to people who aren’t legalized mass murderers. Who’s he going to pick next? Probably the CEO of the second most abusive healthcare insurer.
That said, obviously with limited resources the police have to pick what cases take priority over others.
The police follow the law. The law is defined by politicians, who are effectively purchased by the owner class. The police were never going to arrest that CEO for their crimes against humanity, it would be illegal for them to do it out of the public interest. Direct vigilantism was the only realistic chance at deterrence in this situation.
because they’re too busy chasing down all those people who hurt others’ fee-fees by misgendering them
Weird fantasy but ok.
- Comment on Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted? 2 months ago:
Interesting take, but on the other hand I suspect that nothing new would be learned. afaik their main forensics techniques aren’t really a mystery, there are thousands of cases to learn from.
- Comment on Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted? 2 months ago:
From whom?
- Comment on Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted? 2 months ago:
That’s not true.
- Comment on Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted? 2 months ago:
The repeated mention of “jury nullification” here is a cop-out.
Jury nullification is essentially an admission that the law itself is unjust and the popular belief is that it should be ignored, nullified. So why pretend the legal system is valid in the first place? I do not see the legal system as fair or representative of the people; if it was, this assassination wouldn’t have ever happened. The laws are made by politicians and the politicians represent the owner class, those with enough money to purchase politics.
If you don’t want to see the assassin prosecuted, if you too “didn’t see anything”, then why insist “murder is murder” when you clearly think this one doesn’t deserve equal treatment? It’s utopian idealism, the kind of rule that holds true in an ignorant vacuum experiment but not in this unfair rigged game of a world.
The appropriate sentence for this crime is: “Keep up the important work.”
- Comment on Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted? 2 months ago:
True, the mass murderer wasn’t caught. They were assassinated on video. You can watch it if you want proof.
- Comment on Do you want the murderer of the UnitHealthcare CEO prosecuted? 2 months ago:
Given the perspective you described, I would consider the actions of the company to be systematic mass murder who the legal system fails to stop, and the actions of the shooter to be community defense against a mass murderer. They’re certainly not equivalent, and I don’t see what the benefit is of treating that defense equally to even one callous for-profit murder.
The problem isn’t that exceptions are made and therefore all crimes should be treated in an ignorant vacuum. The problem is that the idealist legal system doesn’t even consider indirect suffering as the violence it is, because the legal system is ultimately beholden to the power of capital (money buys politicians and the media power to make them win, politicians write laws).
- Comment on You don't need to answer this 2 months ago:
- Comment on You don't need to answer this 2 months ago:
Aaaand ima get banned aren’t I?
What is this, reddit.com? There’s no bourgeois advertisers or venture capitalists to appease here.
- Comment on You don't need to answer this 2 months ago:
I deleted it myself because I felt a couple of the targets were a bit too pointlessly edgy for the room. But some of them are spot on. (Eulogy Song from The Chaser’s War on Everything for those curious)
- Comment on You don't need to answer this 2 months ago:
