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All things have a right to grow. The blossom is brother to the weed.

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Those spiders you find inside may be of a type completely adapted to living indoors with humans. Putting one outside means death.

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    • i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I made this mistake with a stink bug when it was winter. It was ok with being on the piece of paper I had it on. When I opened the door and the cold air hit it, it backed away towards me. I set it down and it stopped moving. Oops. :(

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      • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Aren’t most bugs cold blooded?

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    • zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Big this.

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    • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They’re cave-dwelling spiders. They still need a way to find new caves to inhabit. If they’re already settled in your house then they may not survive because you’ve interrupted their lifecycle. But new spiders are wandering in all the time. Those ones may have better luck finding a new house to move into (or coming right back into your house) because they haven’t been established yet.

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  • latenightnoir@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Even though I still have arachnophobia, I’ve intentionally lived with spiders for over a decade and I’ve not had issues with mosquitoes even if I left all of my windows open. And my roommates are thriving!

    They’re very chill roommates, too! After about 1-2 months of adjusting to living together in my old apartment, they stopped spinning webs in the areas which I used frequently and focused on the zones which I left out for them - ceiling corners, gaps between walls and furniture, etc. I did occasionally clean up their old webs every now and again (while taking great care not to bother the spiders themselves) because they also gathered a lot of dust. But they’d replace the old webbing in a matter of days.

    And they never developed overpopulation issues, even though I did see them producing egg sacks regularly. I was expecting to droqn in spiders by the end of the first year of trying this arrangement, but I never counted more than 15-20 spiders apartment-wide.

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    • Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah I’ve always had similar arrangements with spiders. I don’t bother them if they don’t bother me. Wolf spiders chilling in my bathtub do get expropriated through the nearest window though.

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      • latenightnoir@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh, wow! I’d probably just die if I ever saw a wolf spider in my tub! Like, complete simultaneous organ failure, the energy which is me would just eject from my body.

        Lucky for me, I live in Temperate-Continental, so my biggest threat is seeing a Long-Legs dangling down to check up on me while I’m showering!

        And I’m serious about this. Maybe it was just me imagining things, but I swear they started inspecting me every now and again. Like, I’d be at my desk playing, and I’d see one rapelling from the ceiling, like 20-30 cm away from me. Seldom has any descended onto the actual desk, though, they’d just hang for a bit, then climb back up.

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    • visc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      ❤️

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    • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      15-20? Do you tend to have open windows or doors?

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      • latenightnoir@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Generally, yes, even during winter for the most part.

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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Spiders are comrades in mi ongoing extermination war against against mosquitoes.

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  • ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I have so many spiders on the lower floor of the place I’m in now I’ve given up on even bringing them outside. I identify what they are to keep track if we have an uptick in dangerous ones. If it a particularly gross one it goes in the garage to war it out with the cellar spiders otherwise I just shoot them under furniture so I don’t have to think about it. Damnit I’m turning into my dad…

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    • fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They keep the bad stuff out, I figure. I try to put them in my plant pots if I find them around.

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  • rbos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Spider bro is my ally against the wool moths, at the moment. If I catch one I’m putting it in the closet.

    They earn their keep.

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  • rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Spiders deserve to live, Mosquitos deserve to die

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    • Klear@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Are mosquitoes angels?

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      • rooster_butt@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I cry.

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    • Slovene@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Even vegans agree.

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  • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I agree that we shouldn’t disturb nature, but let’s not forget that animals kill each other all the time. There’s no such thing as ethics in nature.

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    • lowleveldata@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What if we are the ethics in nature

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      • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What if the real ethics in nature were the friends we made along the way?

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  • Nikko882@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sylvari spotted.

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have no idea what you are talking about. ;)

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      • MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Can’t say I’ve seen any…

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  • RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    i love spiders, they are such helpful creatures.

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  • Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Spiders are good, they eat the other bugs that cause trouble. The spiders we have are tiny though.

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  • Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My rule has always been simple. It I’m in it’s house (outside), it’s not my business. If it’s in my house, I have to make a choice. That choice was always smash (I’m arachnophobic), but my daughter has led me down the paragon path and I now save more than half of all spiders inside of my house.

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    • wondrous_strange@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Your rules are so fucking stupid it hurts.

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    • Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      *not that many that you see

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  • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Immediately came to mind

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  • niktemadur@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My preferred method is using a piece of paper, slide it gently under them and lift.

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    • fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Tried and true! I also add a jar because they make me jump, I can’t help it lol. I have had big orb spiders crawl on me in the woods while climbing in the US and we have large spiders here incl. the giant English house spider here. They are both the size of hands. Freak me the fuck out haha.

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  • khannie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My wife and all my kids are deathly afraid of spiders. I put them all outside and I’m happy that’s the example I’m setting.

    Spider bro, spider bro, keeping that fly population low.

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  • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I saw a couple recluse spiders in my apartment several months ago and maybe I’m an idiot, but I left them alone. They were truly more scared of me than I was of them. They don’t want to bother me and only will if I threaten them. So I left them alone and they just chilled in their “recluse” hiding spots.

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    • Alteon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Uhhhh…I would not fuck around with recluses. One bite will melt a golf ball size hole in your flesh. If you really want, you can catch and release but you for sure don’t want them in your house. If they breed, you’re looking at a serious problem.

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    • EtherWhack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Widows are more common in my area and I do the same.

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    • frozenpopsicle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have a door spider. It lives in a crack in my entry door. I’m not sure of it is the same spider as last year, but it makes trap web near my door frame. I think of it as bug protection, it’s eating something I don’t want in my house.

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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    One thing to notice Most animals that are inside your house, are inside your house for a reason. And if you put them outside to “live” they will just die if they cannot return to a suitable environment with a reliable source of food and proper cover from the weather and predators.

    So, sorry for taking away the guilt free feeling of putting an animal outside thinking it will live a long happy life in the wilderness.

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    • wabasso@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I often think about this too, though a quick search about house spiders did suggest to me they have a decent chance of survival through winter. I don’t think human structures have been around long enough for species to have adapted to be dependent on them.

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  • Ilixtze@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I have severe arachnophobia, i can’t kill spiders i am too afraid of them. But my cat is a ruthless killer and never fails to make them dissappear.

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    • user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe I can’t get close enough to kill it, but the spider spray can.

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  • mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I like spiders until they bite me when I sleep. Then peace is over.

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    • blind3rdeye@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      yeah, me too. Fortunately that has never ever happened.

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    • zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well then stop sleeping with spiders. Geez. /s

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      • frozenpopsicle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Prude. /s

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  • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    …outside. They deserve to live outside. I unapologetically squish insects and arachnids alike inside my home.

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  • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I only wish spiders wanted to be hugged and kissed as much I want to hug and kiss them. Actually, this applies to a lot of things.

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  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    perhaps if they wanted to live inside my house they should have considered not going out of their way to make my instincts scream for death?

    Do what orb weavers do: set up a web and stay there, and if you have to move do so slowly.
    Respect me and i’ll respect you, run at me with your too many legs and i will send you back to god for adjustments.

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  • black_mouflon@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think they die outside or come back in.

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  • androidul@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    to continue the story: so, he was released in the wilderness and the other 2 spiders saw him all clean and posh that decided to beat him up and mug him.

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  • nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Unless the spider in question is a likely danger/hazard, leaving them be is generally my policy. They don’t usually bother me. That said, the time a calisoga spider got in the house, it caused a visceral fear reaction. I didn’t kill it though, just got safety glasses and trapped it before releasing it outside (I didn’t know that it was not a tarantula at the time).

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  • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My cat says

    👀🍽😼

    (eats it then spits it out, then try to eat it again, repeat until dead)

    Sorry spiders, I’m team Cat.

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    • 0ops@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Cats are actually psychotic. Multiple times I’ve seen my parents cats catch a live mouse on the front lawn, break it’s legs, and play with it for awhile just releasing and catching it over and over again until they get bored and just eat it. I’m only on team cat out of self-preservation.

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    • hmonkey@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I swear there are spiders downvoting in this thread… Who wouldn’t be team cat lol

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  • hmonkey@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well there is no absolute morality and spiders are scary so…

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    • EtherWhack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Aww you’re no fun…

      Here, have a video of one of my bros showing what he thinks of that comment. Image

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    • Azteh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If they don’t violate my personal space, they get to live, but if it crawls on my monitor or something similar, I’m getting the slipper

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  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be fair, the spider will likely be responsible for the deaths of many other insects, but honestly, I’m ok with that. They can live in my house rent free if they keep the other bugs from making my home their home… And they don’t crawl on me. That’s just begging to be killed…

    Spiders are bros.

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  • MintyAnt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Asian Lady beetles on the other hand…

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  • Damaskox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cute!

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