if you need to unscrew a torx screw and you don’t have any torx bits, you can try using a flathead. it won’t work and you’ll probably get hurt doing it, but you can try it.
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problematicPanther@lemmy.world 1 year ago
wjrii@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sometimes an allen wrench can be found which will fit. Still a shitty option, but better than flathead usually.
Abucketofpuppies@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thanks, I think I’ll try this next time.
Zetta@mander.xyz 1 year ago
Op has never done any serious screw work it seems
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Yeah hex or torx it is. Everything else can burn in hell
WhimsicalSofa@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
All IKEA furniture uses Pozidriv (no “e”, it’s a trademark). Not going to say if that’s good or bad, but operating a Pozidriv with. Phillips is always going to be terrible.
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Pozidriv is basically Philips++.
Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m a slotted screw HATER
Everything electrical uses them and it’s a nightmare keeping the screwdriver aligned properly to try and take them out at a good speed
My favorite would be square drive but they always seem to make those out of recycled ham sandwiches or something
dankm@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Come to Canada, most of our existing stuff is robertson, and only the really cheap new stuff isn’t.
DaBabyAteMaDingo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Holy hell the entirety of Lemmy just exposed themselves as retarded jobless people.
Six lobe, or torx, is fucking awesome when screwing in serious screws. It’s the reason why it replaced all philips and most hex heads.
Slotted screws are the fucking worst. You guys have never worked a blue collar job in your lives 🤣😂😭
JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My first thought was, “this post brought to you by not mechanics.” Otherwise they’d recognize the superiority of hex and torx over Philips and especially flat. But then I realized this is, in fact, a very shit post.
DaBabyAteMaDingo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You know, I made the comment and seconds later I noticed my blunder. But I refused to edit or delete it because I’m standing on bidness.
negativeyoda@lemmy.world 1 year ago
yuriy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I got a dinky electronics repair kit that included a wide range of those bits and god DAMN. It feels like they outperform phillips heads on phillips fasteners.
johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Does that mean that I’m using a Phillips driver on things that are actually JIS? A lot of electronics are Japanese.
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Probably. I find a JIS driver is, for the most part, slightly better for a lot of what I do.
The main thing I’ve found is you dont want too much of a point on the bit end. Too pointy and the driver will just wobble on the point and strip everything out.
negativeyoda@lemmy.world 1 year ago
JIS is more common on Japanese machines, ie Japanese cars and motorcycles. When I was a bike mechanic you used JIS for Shimano derailleur adjustment screws. Even tho a Phillips “fit” it would destroy the screw.
I actually can’t tell them apart from sight truth be told, but I’m also not wrenching anymore (not to mention the cycling industry largely moved on to hex and torx)
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Factually incorrect.
Torx and Square/Robertson are superior, Hex/Allen and Phillips are allowed a seat on this council but not granted the rank of master, Posidriv is theoretically Phillips++ but only to the six people in the world that know what it is and own a Posidriv screwdriver, to everyone else it’s that goddamn Phillips that keeps camming out. JIS is parallel universe Phillips, it’s exactly as reasonably okay as Phillips is for identical reasons, the biggest problem is that they exist alongside and closely resemble Phillips screws. Everything else except slotted is a mental disorder, and slotted was dropped on its head as a child.
ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Posidrive is very common in the UK. Especially in trades. They are so common screwdriver sets will include posi and slotted with no Philips. Philips is still common in electronics.
Posidrive is much better than Phillips, but just as easy to quickly screw lots of things. Torx and hex take longer to align and have many more sized drive ends. Posidrive has three sizes and 90% of them are number 2. But if you need more torque then they are no good. But at that point you need to switch to a different tool like an impact or wrench.
A washing machine I recently had to repair had three different sizes of torx and it isn’t obvious which one till you test fit. Posidrive is easy to identify the size by eye and many different screw diameters share the same posi head. Coupled with self alignment they are just more convenient. I have Robertson bits from multipacks but never needed them.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Phillips has been such a standard for so long in the United States I don’t think it’s going anywhere, and Pozidriv has made basically no inroads; in fact the only Posidriv screws I own are part of an E3D 3D printer extruder.
I encounter a LOT of Phillips heads, quite a lot of Torx, at least here in America a lot of carpentry screws are starting to standardize on T25 Torx drive. A lot of them include a T25 driver bit in the package, and they are SO much better than Phillips. Drywall screws are still commonly #2 Phillips. Pocket screws (washer headed wood screws) tend to be square drive for whatever reason. Machine screws are either Phillips or Allen. I find a lot of appliances held together with small external hex sheet metal screws, if not Phillips.
I bought a 50 piece bit kit and it came with no less than 8 #2 Phillips drivers.
Aeri@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Personally I wish we could eliminate flathead screw.
greedytacothief@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think it has its place in things that need to be fixed in the field where you may not have access to a screwdriver. Other than that they kinda suck
bhamlin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I came here to show love for Robertson, but it looks like I didn’t need to. You guys are the best. 😁
jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
I don’t think I’ve ever encountered one, but I can see their value. Where are they used?
bhamlin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Mostly in construction. Robertson was a Canadian, and you see them a lot in Canada. In the US largely they use Phillips or something that looks like Phillips and a six-lobed star shape.
I like Robertson because the bits are much less fragile, and very inexpensive. They’re also much less likely to strip out a screw with a square hole than something that needs little pieces of metal sticking into the bit hole.
emhl@feddit.de 1 year ago
We’re screwed
crusty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
The worst one I ever came across was five lobe tamperproof on a Seagate external hdd. Couldn’t find any bits for it that didn’t have to be imported. Ended with a rather destructive disassembly
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Pentalobe screws are used by Apple, was surprised not to see them listed. They also use a strange tri on some old batteries.
Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Best is to mold one directly from the screwhead using molten iron issued from your local weaponsmith.
recapitated@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They y-type screw is obnoxious.
I’ve only encountered those on Nintendo products, they are the worst.
bstix@feddit.dk 1 year ago
Torx and PZ ftw.
Also, I’d like to apologise to the future owner of my house for making several constructions using both in no particular order.
brap@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There’s a distinct lack of love for pozidrive here. It’s like Phillips but without being shit.
WormFood@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I worked for an engineering company that used them almost exclusively and now I won’t shut the fuck up about pozidriv l. everyone thinks I’m insane
evergreen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I agree. The vast majority of people don’t know the difference, and have never used a pozidrive driver with a pozidrive screw. It is a vast improvement imo.
KuraiWolfGaming@pawb.social 1 year ago
Don’t think I’ve ever seen one before.
brap@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Might be regional? It’s the go-to in the UK for a lot of screws.
Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Fuck Phillips screws
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If they aren’t made of material that is so easy to strip, they give you a lot more purchase than flat-heads.
Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
They are specifically designed to cam out at high torque.
Robertson screws are where it’s at
Gigan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I will also allow hex. Anything else can get fucked
SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Hex stripped even when using the correct size likely due to a seized part.
evergreen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, I’ve had hex strip before as well. It’s always been on the smaller sizes for me though at least. Like sub M3 or 1/8" ish. And of course, cheap hex keys are just asking for it at those sizes. On the other hand, I’ve definitely never had a torx head strip out on me.
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Robertson is fine, much much better than Philips, and cheaper to manufacture than torx.
FryHyde@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Cue all the Canadians pretending anyone gives a shit about their goofy chamfered square deck screws.
Taniwha420@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t know what you’re talking about. They’re naturally superior.
adamantris@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Apparently I don’t know shit about handywork since everyone here is swooning about Torx and I don’t even have an idea what they are
Ginger666@lemmy.world 1 year ago
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The best goddamn type of screw you will ever screw. No slipping, no stripping - you torque, it goes in.
Foofighter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Probably the best shitpost I’ve seen in a while.
LordCrom@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Clutch screw aka the green lantern corp screw
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ahh, Lemmy shit post, makes sense now
OsaErisXero@kbin.run 1 year ago
They 100% got me until I saw your post, I was just about ready to start proselytizing for our lord and saivor the Torx bit.
mortrek@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
Oh… I thought this was satirical about gender or something. Not literally saying that those are the two best screws, because NOBODY IN THE WORLD THINKS THAT.
SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
I remember the original image did pick on genders considering cis male and female as the only “acceptable” ones
This version is better
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 year ago
One day some event is going to happen that ends civilization. The last sentence spoken before the event will be “oh shot does anyone have a hex set?”.
zerocool42@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 year ago
ASSY (from WÜRTH) is my go to for wood screws, and Torx for mechanical, the rest can go to hell.
Skkorm@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Translated into Albertan:
Slotted = Flathead Square = Robinson 6 lobe = Torq
Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 year ago
what's wrong with philips + slot
kamen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Joke aside, curious about what the percentage distribution is on those. I won’t be surprised if the first two together have like 90% or more.
Hagdos@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Depends on where you live. Here in Europe Pozidrive is slowly being replaced by six-lobe. Flatheads and Phillips are only on ancient stuff
0x2d@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
i like the torx screws (philips strips easier)
Zink@programming.dev 1 year ago
I submit that every screw in the world should be the six lobe slotted. For the stuff that’s not tamper-resistant, anyway.
You have the six lobe for actually building things, because fuck Phillips head screws, and the slot for convenience where you could use anything from a coin to a knife.
Here in the US, certain brands of deck screws for outdoor use are six lobe and they come with the driver bit in the box because everybody has the damn Phillips and flat head screwdrivers! But to be fair, if you have a bunch of tools you probably also have a set of torx drivers.