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Rin@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• superkret@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  People are disgusted by the idea that one random person could track their every move and read everything they write.
  Unless that person is employed at a large corporation.

  I used to date a Google employee. They had a Signal chat where they shared screenshots of funny or interesting shit they saw on the user accounts.

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  • tourist@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    oh fuck

    That’s horrific. I hope your relationship ended amicably?

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    • superkret@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Not really, she caught me Binging someone else.

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      • tourist@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I forgot which community this was lmao

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Gottum.

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  • sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Its actually worse than that.

    I’ve recently met an increasing number of Gen Alpha / Zoomers that all have each other in some kind of family location tracking app, so they all know each other’s locations at all times, and actually you’re a rude asshole if you think that’s weird

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    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      They also think you’re rude if you don’t have an iPhone. What a weird generation.

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      • sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Man, I’m so used to that it didn’t even occur to me.

        Now, I realize the following is extreme, but I did actually experience this a year ago:

        The last Gen A that made fun of me for not using an iPhone actually just began literally screeching when I attemped to explain why I use an android.

        Just stared me down and eeeeEEEEeEEE! for 20 seconds until my ears were ringing.

        In the previous sentence, she was talking about how she doesn’t conform to standard societal gender norms and is a rebel against capitalism… then questioned why I don’t use an iPhone.

        When she was done literally screeching, she then started bragging about their Temu fast fashion addiction, and then said I don’t use an iPhone because I’m broke.

        So… thats a whole lot of hypocrisy in 60 seconds.

        And then later that evening, she proceeded to get into a physical punching and scratching match with her on again off again girlfriend, which I had to break up when one of them grabbed a fucking knife.

        … Physically abusive lesbian relationship, how very rebellious, non stereotypical and progressive.

        Oh, did I mention she had made me promise, multiple times, to cover for her and lie to her boyfriend and convince him that she had left her girlfriend and wasn’t cheating on him?

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• LucidNightmare@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m pretty sure most people who are doing this are trying, in their own way, to make a point.

  It wasn’t about “national security”. It was about a large digital meeting place where ideas could be shared, or feelings and frustrations at their government could be seen and felt by others who felt the same. Big Brother doesn’t like that, unless it is on US Corporate Approved Social Media, where they can promptly shut you down, or get their algorithm to put post with specific keywords out of the eyes of as many as possible.

  So, instead of creating actual data privacy laws, as they should have, they decided to attack TikTok, because Mark Zuckerburg got in front of congress during whatever case it was that brought his lizard ass in the room (maybe the Cambridge Analytica scandal?) and said that TikTok was more dangerous than his own platform.

  There you go. It was never about “national security”, as there were much better ways to handle that than banning one single app.

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  • Tabooki@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    China was caught logging every keystroke through this. It’s why some revamped it’s permissions a while ago.

    In China it shows people how to be good, science, technology., education, nature.

    Here it show kids to eat tide pods.

    It’s a propaganda method for China.

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    • frostysauce@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yes, surely no other apps log keystrokes. Certainly not Gboard!

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      • j_overgrens@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s irrelevant whether other apps do it – it’s still wrong.

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      • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Of course not, Google does no evil. Everyone knows that.

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    • holo@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I could not care less if China has every single thing I’ve ever typed. They’re literally half a world away, and have never tried to launch a war on vague concepts.

      The US government nor any corporate owner of the US government should have a single idea of my existence except for tax purposes.

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      • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        have never tried to launch a war on vague concepts.

        Hahahahahahahahahahaha

        Are you serious?

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      • Saryn@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Oh you sweet summer child!

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  • TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Doing the the thing in direct opposition to what an authority is demanding is like a trauma response or something.

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    • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      it’s also a good idea when the authority is being a piece of shit and grew too comfortable in their position.

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      • yamper@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        moving your data from your domestic authoritarian to a foreign authoritarian isn’t the gotcha you think it is

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      • TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah absolutely. Grassroots organising is good but so is being angsty on the internet. Like how a few people were talking about voting as a tool for harm prevention on an individual rather than systemic level before the election. Whatever works to make you feel less powerless is a good thing

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  • SoJB@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The shit liberals just go along with because it fits their propaganda is genuinely fucking hilarious.

    It’s not that deep. AIPAC fucking hated how the truth about Israel’s genocide was spreading, and told their puppets to ban it.

    The DNC chose to lose 3 branches of government rather than disobey Israel.

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    • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Mark Suckerburg tells congress TikTok is a threat

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  • TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah. Lemmy users should spend a bit of time deconstructing why tik tok makes them so angry. There’s a bit to unpack there. Not that it isn’t trash.

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    • CharmOffensive@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It reminds them of the popular kids in school who pushed them into lockers. That’s basically it.

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I don’t understand why the people here who like TikTok aren’t on a Reddit instead. They don’t mind closed-source software on a corporate server manipulating us. There’s people who want just TikTok gone, and people who want all centralized social media gone.

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      • Katrisia@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t understand why the people here who like TikTok aren’t on a Reddit instead.

        Reddit is not as leftist as I’d like it to be. Reddit app is garbage while Sync is awesome. I left in solidarity the day they banned third party apps.

        I like the idea of decentralized social media and I trust you tech savvy lemmings about its importance, but I also have a weakness for nice communities and TikTok has/had one.

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      • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’m… pretty sure people can like both open source and closed source things… “manipulating” yes. I’ve been so manipulated. I’ve been so manipulated that I think there should be actual data privacy laws. They got me.

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  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They did write data privacy laws when they banned TikTok. Read HR 815 Division H and Division I of 118th Congress, which is just HR 7520 and 7521 bundled into a larger bill.

    The original text of HR 7520 is:

    (a) Prohibition.—It shall be unlawful for a data broker to sell, license, rent, trade, transfer, release, disclose, provide access to, or otherwise make available personally identifiable sensitive data of a United States individual to—

    (1) any foreign adversary country; or

    (2) any entity that is controlled by a foreign adversary.

    (b) Enforcement by Federal Trade Commission.—

    (1) UNFAIR OR DECEPTIVE ACTS OR PRACTICES.—A violation of this section shall be treated as a violation of a rule defining an unfair or a deceptive act or practice under section 18(a)(1)(B) of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 U.S.C. 57a(a)(1)(B)).

    (2) POWERS OF COMMISSION.—

    (A) IN GENERAL.—The Commission shall enforce this section in the same manner, by the same means, and with the same jurisdiction, powers, and duties as though all applicable terms and provisions of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 U.S.C. 41 et seq.) were incorporated into and made a part of this section.

    (B) PRIVILEGES AND IMMUNITIES.—Any person who violates this section shall be subject to the penalties and entitled to the privileges and immunities provided in the Federal Trade Commission Act.

    (3) AUTHORITY PRESERVED.—Nothing in this section may be construed to limit the authority of the Commission under any other provision of law.

    Definition of Foreign Adversary:

    “(4) FOREIGN ADVERSARY COUNTRY.—The term “foreign adversary country” means a country specified in section 4872(d)(2) of title 10, United States Code.”

    Which states:

    “(2) Covered nation .— The term “covered nation” means— (A) the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea; (B) the People’s Republic of China; © the Russian Federation; and (D) the Islamic Republic of Iran.”

    But I think it also includes a few other countries, idk if this text is up to date.

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    • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I… don’t really care about a foreign government having my data. Like, Id rather no one does, but the US government is the only one with direct impact on my life personally. Who gives a fuck about China

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      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t care if you don’t mind having harm done to you, the entirety of the USA would suffer from continued data collection by the CCP. The entirety of the USA would suffer from more “pig butchering” scams, more industry hacks and subterfuge, more US Military installations being mapped out. That’s all ignoring their impact on politics.

        So stop bothering us here and go screw around on RedNote if thats what you think.

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  • bestagon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    IT professionals clutching their pearls is just this year’s “won’t somebody think of the bank windows!” Our data is fucked already. Security and privacy had been made worthless now and only seems to have a compensative value to tech companies. So why not cast it to the wind and watch them scramble after it?

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    • Ledivin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Post your phone number.

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Post your home address

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      • farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        but you already know where me and your mom live

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    • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Multiple data leaks have came about because of Facebook yet you don’t see anyone here saying anything about being happy to ban it. It’s so weird to see the disconnect. The true answer is for ALL of us to have actual data privacy laws enacted by our dinosaurs in government.

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• ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I am still angry at Facebook for normalizing using your real name. That eroded a lot of basic security practices.

  Now little 7yos share mommy’s credit card in YouTube comments.

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• BlueLineBae@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I used to be disgusted that people didn’t seem to care that they were risking their own privacy and national security to boot. But then I remembered that our own government won’t do anything to keep our individual privacy in check from corporations. So as long as that’s the case, I don’t see why anyone should give a fuck. The government did this to themselves.

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• MooseTheDog@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  We underestimated how little people trust the government compared to how much they hate china

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• Paddzr@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  And hence EU and UK regulations are so fucking needed. GDPR and legal requirements for companies to follow is a god sent.

  Got a cold email? &hit them with that sweet chat gbt copy pasta!

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  • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Got a cold email? &hit them with that sweet chat gbt copy pasta!

    Wait what? Can you give me more details?

    Sorry I’m too American because I bend over and accept corporate penetration.

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    • Paddzr@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So, company cannot buy your data. A company also needs a valid reason to hold your data. Also, company needs to have your consent to have this data, ie, you need to interact with them.

      So if someone messages you out of the blue, someone you never dealt with… How did they get your info? How do they have a valid reason to contact you if you never dealt with them before? And why would they have your permission to contact you if you never gave it to them?

      Answer is, they’re using your info illegally. The copy pasta is basically giving them notice to remote all your records and if they don’t comply you’ll be reporting them.

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    • Klear@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Fun fact - GDPR applies to EU citizens wherever they are, so as an American you can ask to get your data removed based on GDPR and even though it doesn’t apply to you, they will often not bother to check and do it.

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• Sabata11792@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Makes sense as the only difference is jurisdiction, who steals your data, and what flavor the propaganda is. You got 2 bad options:

  The fully automated malware “advertisement” system that steals every loose bit of information on device and sends it to the highest bidder and the US government(if they pay) while telling you how you feel and what to buy.

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  The fully automated malware “for your safety” system that steals every loose bit of information on device and sends it to the Chinese government while telling you how you feel and that you love the government or else. As a bonus it will piss off a boomer in congress.

  They clearly don’t know or understand any alternatives otherwise they would go there.

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  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Easy choice. The US gov has massive power over me. The Chinese gov has near zero.

    If I had to choose I’m definitely going for the Chinese.

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    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Except to, y’know, influence elections and culture and shit.

      That said, Facebook and Google are worse.

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• ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Let’s be real the only reason tiktok is getting banned is because the US govt isn’t getting any tax money from all the data being harvested.

  At least with other social media that openly sells your data to foreign countries the govt can collect that sweet sweet tax money to line the pockets of people with too much money as it is.

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  • frostysauce@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s nothing to do with tax revenue and everything to do with controlling the narrative through social media. More specifically the fact they couldn’t use TikTok to convince people there was no genocide in Gaza was what kicked all of this off.

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    • ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Image

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  • leadore@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The real reason is that it’s competition for the broligarchs. They want it gone, thinking that all that traffic will come to their platforms.

    That’s why there’s no chance that the govt will do what many in this thread are saying would be logical–ban the data collection and manipulation itself, not just one foreign competitor–be consistent, Meta, X, etc. should also be banned.

    So regardless of how stupid people are for signing up on the Chinese alternatives, at least it’s good that they’re refusing to move to Meta, YT, X, etc. They’re deliberately not rewarding the broligarchs.

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• recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  These idiots are seething st the mouth to have their privacy buttfucked.

  Go get it, kings and queens. Surely trading your own security for checks notes…wow dopamine hits from shitposts.

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• drdiddlybadger@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Wasn’t just the corpos it was a joint project between the corps and the government. And in rebellion people are giving a rival nation full access to everything. If China had an obligation competitor you would be smart betting that they would’ve seen millions of holes before dawn just form people trying to spit in the face if tbe US.

  Its a sensible protest, wtf is China going to do with that data that the US government and attached corporations wouldn’t do, right?

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• werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The US gov hereby declares China butt fucking Americans banned!

  Americans… Oh African butt fucking is awesome!

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• spujb@lemmy.cafe ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  amazing how much you missed the joke lmao

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• SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  People worship corps.

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• SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s just learned habit.

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