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Submitted ⁨⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    My high school US history class spent like two weeks on the revolutionary war, half a class on everything that happened up to the civil war, two or three weeks on the civil war, half a class on the rest of the 19th century, like a week on WWII, the roaring 20’s and dusbowl 30’s got a week, and the rest of the class was World War 2, the 4 years that made up 60% of our 250 year history.

    I have two hypotheses for why it was like that and they’re not mutually exclusive:

    1. WWII ends on a very boastful note for the USA. The defeat of not one but two objectively evil empires through both military and industrial might, that and having basically none of the fighting on our soil meant we came out of the war powerful and rich, eclipsing Great Britain as the superpower in the west. Almost immediately after that, history gets a lot less flattering.

    2. The boomers were in charge of setting the school curriculum circa 2002, and by their logic “Then World War 2 happened, and then I was born, and then stuff I personally remember happened, and because I personally remember it, it isn’t “history” therefore we don’t have to teach it. You learn about Upton Sinclair in history class, you learn about the Cuban Missile Crisis by watching the news, that’s just how it is.”

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  • aldhissla@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Bold assumption that our descendants will have the kind of general education that would result in “extra homework” for “history students”. I imagine a future scholar to be like Kenneth from 30 Rock

    spoiler

    (in his mortal form)

    Kenneth saying: "Science was my favourite subject. Especially the old testament."

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    • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      To quote Christopher Homer in his epic of Gilgamesh:

                    PENELOPE
      Why will the stories only be sung?
      
                    ODYSSEUS
      Because songs will be all they have to
      remember those of us who could write.
      
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  • Gork@sopuli.xyz ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Students learning about the Trump era gonna think we dumb as fuck

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    • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Know we are dumb as fuck, you mean

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      • Montagge@lemmy.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        We are dumb as fuck

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    • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      If history is taught correctly, they will know that Americans of today are propagandized to hell by the capitalist oligarchs who are fighting tooth and nail to maintain the hierarchy. That the coercive structure of the capitalist system left people alienated and disenfranchised and largely unable to overcome the sea of misinformation designed to isolate and divide communities.

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    • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s going to be Germany 1933-1945 all over again, except the leader is considered even more of a clown than the first time.

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      • Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, the way the history books painted Hitler was like he was a supervillain with the power of convincing people to do what he wants. Now I know that’s probably not true and that the Germans were probably just dumb as fuck pieces of shit that would’ve hammered their own faces if they were told to.

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    • nieceandtows@programming.dev ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Depends on who writes the history books

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    • cdf12345@lemmy.zip ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Unless the republicans are able to control all the books and curriculum in schools

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  • MehBlah@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    All you young ones just wait until you get corrected in twenty years by someone like you because they didn’t live it and think they know more about it than you.

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  • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So… the US president was part of a child eating cult-like sex trafficking net that was actually managed by moSS*d. Countries around the world that stump into that information used it to blackmail him.

    At one point, the info got partially leaked, but he was kept in power for some reason.

    First: that wont ever make it to a history book

    Second: i wonder how many times things like this happened… this cabt be the first one

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    • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      First: that wont ever make it to a history book

      It probably will, it’s too relevant to be left out. It will just not be explained in that plain language, because people care about protecting children from the raw character of historical figures.

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  • Johanno@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As if.

    They will water it down, shorten it up and place it at most on lesson on the side.

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  • tigermountain@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Students today don’t seem to know or understand any history that’s more than 10 years old anyway so I don’t see why it would be any different in the future.

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  • nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    bold of you to assume there will still be students, history, or future

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  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We’ll see how many primary sources even survive the following decades.

    Though I don’t envy anyone who has to do history science when a large amount of primary sources are available. Imagine having to analyse Trump tweets for a paper.

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    • tynansdtm@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We’re in the age of AI now. Are future historians going to be able to trust primary sources?

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      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Historians aren’t supposed to trust primary sources from any time period.

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    • Xerxos@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I can see future students simply denying that anyone would have really voted for DJT.

      “I refuse to believe that anyone was that dumb!”

      Can’t really blame them, I can hardly believe it now.

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      • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Many Germans did vote for Hitler (never the absolute majority of voters, though), even though he was clearly hateful and evil and obviously making lots of false claims, and on top of that looked completely ridiculous when he was shouting and screaming in his speeches. Can’t remember seeing any German say that they don’t believe that anyone voted for the guy.

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  • Kanda@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He thinks there will be a future

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  • justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You think history students have it bad.

    Imagine lawyers post-Trump. Well, according to established case law minus 2025-2029...

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  • owl@infosec.pub ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Wasn’t history supposed to end mid 20th century?

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    • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It did, this is History 2: The Return of History

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  • Boozilla@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Guessing it will be called The Stupid Ages, or maybe The Antichrist Years, depending on who is in charge.

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    • normanwall@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The Disinformation Age

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      • Drusas@fedia.io ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The Age of Grift and Disinformation

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  • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Optimistic of you to be so sure they’ll be studying history at all in the future.

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  • cmbabul@slrpnk.net ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s an outrageously optimistic hope of mine that there will be any students around to study history

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  • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My face when my kids will have to do a report on Doge Coin.

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  • FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Trump is trying to make it easier for history students by deleting all mention of racism and other forms of discrimination

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  • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They’re already gonna have a hard time recovering all the history deliberately destroyed by the administration.

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  • Drusas@fedia.io ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Realistically, for anything earlier than university level, classes don't have more time to cover additional material every few years, so new material being covered in class pushes out something that had previously been covered. Or it further abbreviates how much is taught about therm.

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    • Lupus108@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Hitler - bad. Moving on.”

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  • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    History students will continue to learn about some random battle of Jamestown in 1023 BC

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  • affenlehrer@feddit.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Looks a lot like Elon

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  • Spinoza@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    People about to have dissertation topics for the next 2 centuries.

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