Reminds me of one of the worst academic papers I’ve ever seen www.tandfonline.com/doi/…/14616742.2015.1075317
The woke liberals are making our wars gay
Submitted 2 months ago by MacNCheezus@lemmy.today to [deleted]
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RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 months ago
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lemmy has got to be the only place where people use reaction academic papers rather than reaction gifs. But i love that. Thanks for sharing
hyphen0175@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
There’s a lot of interesting idea in this paper, presented in a very strange way. The main idea is that drone warfare takes a lot of the masculinity (for example, courage in the face of death) out of warfare, and masculinity can be seen as one of the main concepts that drive war. The act of killing is no longer masculine in this context (like the meme shows) and this poses a big problem for the military. The paper takes a strange direction and implies that because it can’t be masculine, it might be queer (gay), and further that this queerness could be a positive opportunity for changing the discourse about war. It’s a cool idea that talking about drone warfare’s emasculation could change people’s minds about war, but the way that they used queerness as a concept to get there reads so bizarrely.
Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ve had conversations with people who think that Medieval warfare was more honorable and better because of the hand to hand nature of it, and that guns ruined how badass it was.
It also draws to mind the inventor of the machine gun Hiram Maxim’s idea that the machine gun would be so terrible that people would stop having wars.
The reality is that war has always been the worst thing that can happen, and most people die of disease and indiscriminate weapons like artillery.
It seems the strategy of making hell more hellish to stop the hell is a poor one.
Flatfire@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I was so taken out of it, I thought they may have just been using queer in the context of irregularity but then they hit me with “drones could give people gender anxiety” and I didn’t know where I was anymore lol
It’s almost an interesting train of thought, but war isn’t inherently masculine, and I think it’s a pretty undeserving concept once you consider external factors that drive people to conflict. This feels like it views masculinity solely through the lens of what is more accurately described as toxic masculinity, where the image of maleness is based in some combatitive quantity.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 months ago
“The Forever War” by Joe Haldeman.
The author was a Vietnam vet and physics professor. The novel was written in the 1970s. One of the ideas is that in the future all soldiers will be gay/lesbian and heterosexuals in the ranks will be looked down on.
Fun book
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 months ago
i’ve actually been thinking whether there could maybe be some kind of machine-wrestling. i.e. fights for show or competition or sth, similar to the olympic games, but purely involving machines. drones and such
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 months ago
wtf did i just read. lmao. this gotta be some ragebait papers.
lagg_mine@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Omg, PLEASE tell me this is satire!?
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 months ago
I do think its funny that people think the drone war future is one in which humans aren’t getting killed instead of where where humans can’t even fight back.
Go watch ANY footage of the war in Ukraine and think about swarms of those drones working their way down your street, because that is what it looks like.
Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 2 months ago
Soldiers are not getting killed. Innocent people don’t count.
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
who? everyone that joins Russias army to be cannon fodder does it willingly, there isn’t a draft (as of yet anyways)
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 months ago
“Primary weapon: python script” got me lmao
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 2 months ago
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Nerds ruined war.
Hubi@feddit.org 2 months ago
The commercialization is what took out all the fun. You used to go to war over physical things like land or treasure, then it was ideology and now it’s just so the green line goes up. Lame af.
teslekova@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
War as a service. WAAS.
wdx@feddit.org 2 months ago
I get the feeling someone had a frustrating day at work due to Kubernetes
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 months ago
Didn’t some country try to develop a chemical agent that would turn the enemy gay? 🤔
stoy@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
The US did:
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This can easily be neglected with a squadron of gay soldiers, just saying. You can even code-name the squad “spartans.”
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t like them putting a bunch of chemicals into the water that turn the freaking frogs gay. Do you understand that?
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I hope so 😂
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They’d probably fight even harder and become even more dangerous if they all turned gay. Ever heard of the Sacred Band of Thebes?
4am@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Ah yes, notorious woke libtards “Lockheed Martin”
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 2 months ago
IDK how to tell you this…
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I remember a post from way back was a picture of someone’s legs on their desk, wearing Lockheed Martin branded trans flag thigh socls
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 months ago
lmao
kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Lockheed is “extremely woke” according to the right-wing culture warriors:
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I’ve heard of rainbow capitalism but I haven’t heard of rainbow warfare 😆
w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The ‘Fortunate Sons’ are the rich ones with connections who didn’t have to go to war. They got it backwards.
5318008@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
They included the Spotify logo. It’s just <insert song here> rather than labelling the picture as “Fortunate Sons”.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah but the song is about someone who is NOT a fortunate son. Or a senator’s son.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Anyone who thinks America were the good guys in Vietnam is full on fucking stupid.
America who faked an attack on themselves (Gulf of Tonkin incident) to get into a war, start loosing and so used chemical weapons and random attacks on women and children. Then continuing to lose Richard Nixon decided to extend the war crimes and deaths several years in order to run an illegal and undeclared war against Laos and Cambodia - allowing Pol Pot and the Kymer Rouge to get into power off the millitarism and anti-American sentiment the wars created.
Eventually when the American media and students got angry enough and the war dead and massive extent of war crimes, and illegal actions of Nixon got too much, America finally decided to accept their losses and just leave. Leaving Pol Pot to commit his own extremist crimes against humanity.
Ultimately Vietnam had to then go to war with their neighbors in order to stop Pol Pot’s war cimes and genocides.
All because America was afraid of Socialism in a small Pacific Island nation.
The fucking “good guys”.
666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Okay but guns = cool and drones = gay
Tja@programming.dev 2 months ago
Welcome to shitposting, I guess…
Limonene@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This post is satire. Take a look at the
PTSD: Hell yeah [++++++++++]Nobody likes PTSD. This is a parody of being pro-war.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yes, I’m taking the opportunity to spread the truth about Vietnam regardless.
Badabinski@kbin.earth 2 months ago
kubectl delete enemy --allmade me fucking snort.alexquiniou@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Yeah, like “war was fun before” Sure kido.
blackberry28@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I think u overlooked what community this was posted in lol
alexquiniou@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Yeah, you are right. 😋 That still boil my blood. I hear this type of viewpoint everyday.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 2 months ago
Do you want “Warhammer 40000: in the grim darkness of the future there is only war”?
Because that is how you get “Warhammer 40000: in the grim darkness of the future there is only war”.
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
yes
theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
The war version of Zizek’s “my chatbot fucks your chatbot, we get sex out of the way and we can discuss philosophy”.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 months ago
[off topic?]
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/74098/74098-h/74098-h.htm
War No. 81-Q by Cordwainer Smith
The USA and Tibet go to war in the 22nd Century…
programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Really cool cyberpunk story of war. Next up is to fight for the oil in Iran with a car race, winner takes all.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 months ago
Did you notice that it was written in 1928?
tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ew new wars are so ugly 🤮 Give us the ol’ good trench war!
nullspace@lemmy.world 2 months ago
*sips sugar free monster*
Look alive, zoomies. It’s time for another trench charge.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There is nothing funny about war, it’s actually really fucked up you’d even try to joke about it. This is really offensive and I’m upset about it. I can’t believe Lemmy would allow such evil content.
BigDiction@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nothing gets the murder juices flowing like be forced into a hot, humid environment you never thought about until getting drafted.
wieson@feddit.org 2 months ago
Nah, cosacks riding in with their war falcons, raining down birds of fire onto a nuclear power is way cooler than lukewarm and wet amithumbs getting stuck in the jungle.
Folstar@lemmus.org 2 months ago
Which just makes the “warrior ethos” talk that much hilarious while also concerning.
Leviathan@fedinsfw.app 2 months ago
Since 2020
Oh, sweet summer child.
dan69@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I watched this video of non-secular figures addressing this very topic - probably 10+ years old. How even the advent of the modern day guns or even just the hand guns are just cruel. It was an interesting none the less.
terranoid@lemmy.cafe 2 months ago
lol holy fuck I hope no one takes this seriously, because Vietnam was fucking hell for the soldiers. No one thought it was awesome except some conservative Nixon supporting fucks who didn’t care because they didn’t have their 16 year old get drafted.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Neither do I, that’s why I posted it here
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
noncredibledefense would eat this up
tyranny@crazypeople.online 2 months ago
i think it’s worth pointing out that, as nasty as war was for the poor downtrodden US military, it was nightmarish for the vietnamese