Submitted 3 weeks ago by cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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To keep Reddit safe, accounts are required to access old Reddit. Log in, or continue without an account on reddit.com."]
Don’t log into an account.
Browse the Internet like normal.
If x.com or reddit.com won’t let you view without privacy, they’re dead and useless.
Have some spine; lead, and stop following and being led by evil people and companies.
This is true for YouTube as well.
You can view YouTube logged put
Lol Tumblr and instgran with its nonstop log in
Tumblr and Pinterest are on life support.
Insta and reddit still have enough inertia.
If they don’t make you log in, they lose sigint.
IF they do make you log in, they burn activity and users
Reddit will eventually fizzle out, Just another in a long chain of bad ideas trading short gains over long life.
Platforms with followers where it makes sense to have them, friends and followers on reddit always seemed odd to me
XCancel and redlib will let you browse both without an account.
They don’t even try to lie effectively. Why in Hell’s name would you need to log in to “keep reddit safe” just to lurk?
My only guess is because they want to force AI scrapers to pay for access. And most scrapers probably work best on old.reddit because they keep changing new Reddit’s layout. As a programmer, if you’re going to code something to access a site, (and you don’t want to constantly have to rework it every time they make a small UI update) you’re going to use the version that never changes. So by forcing them to log in, it makes tracking the individual users (and thus, identifying potential unauthorized scraper accounts) easier.
But can’t you use very simple agentic AI to constantly update the code for web scrapers on new reddit? From what I understand that is the kind of coding LLM can do well and you can just unit test for errors and feed it back to the LLM until it works. Even requiring accounts, creation can be automated using LLMs too.
This sounds like it a loosing proposition and will only piss off hardcore users. Not that this would stop them. But I don’t think protection from web scrapers is a good explanation. Probably it’s just enshittification, forcing users to use their new interface to optimize business metrics. Someone is going to get a bonus because they improved the short sighted metrics.
CPMs are better if traffic is not bots. Same at my company we have to use cloudflare. They essentially don’t know who is human and who is OpenClaw anymore or scraper.
It’s up to you on whether you believe it or not. But the reasons they’re giving are that they’ve got protections going on when you access new Reddit that they aren’t able to implement on Old Reddit. Again, this is coming from the announcement from the Reddit admins. It sounds plausible to me and I really don’t care to argue this. I’m just passing along what they actually said.
Protections from… users reading text?
I second some_kind_of_guy’s comment. What exactly do you need protection from while just lurking?
Stop using platforms that are actively locking you out.
Don’t you understand? Reddit is in DANGER from users NOT BEING LOGGED IN!
It wants you inside of it
Think of all the horrible CSAM posts I can flood reddit with while NOT LOGGED IN! They must be in shambles!
To be fair, the likely reason in this case is AI companies mass-downloading Reddit posts for their training runs. You can’t really cache the internet, so from what I understand, every training run they scrape this stuff anew.
For many smaller sites, it’s effectively a denial-of-service attack, which is why lots of them have put up this thing:
Anubis bot protection screen
For Reddit, it might just be additional traffic that they have to pay for and which doesn’t give them any profit. Although, if Reddit is still as unstable as it was years ago, I also wouldn’t be surprised, if they got DoSed by that a few times as well.
You cannot, and never could, post without logging in.
That’s not really what that means, they don’t want people scraping reddit, which is much easier on old reddit.
Yeah I know I just thought it was funny that the first line is, we need to keep Reddit safe.
if you just want to browse, redlib is amazing, and even more with the libredirect extension on desktop.
or, you know, don’t use reddit
Porque no los dos? Of course don’t feed reddit with content for them to sell, or aimlessly browse the frontpage. If you need information on a niche subject, or refer to something that happened in 2011, don’t burden yourself to avoid reddit. Just set yourself to be in read only mode with ad blockers to the max so you get more from them then they get from you.
It is still unfortunately the go-to landing spot for basically any “I’m having an obscure tech issue and only one person posted about this specific error code six years ago” type of search.
But so many searches i do these days have the answer on reddit
I use both redlib and piefed on a daily basis.
I haven’t logged in to reddit for years, but there’s loads more content there for niche topics.
redlib is amazing
two weeks goes by and it breaks
Not worth the effort. Been down that road. Redlib fixes, Reddit breaks again, over and over and over.
It’s clear that Redlibs maintainer is burnt out, as were the LibReddit folks who developed and maintained it initially before it was forked. Software like this is an endless cat and mouse chase, Reddit break something, the community works around it, rinse and repeat.
It’s why we don’t see Bibliogram around anymore, Instagram made their APi unbearable to work with.
At the end of the day though, I wouldn’t say it’s a difficult task to switch docker images to a fork that is now maintained.
Huh? My redlib instance broke maybe once this year because I didn’t update it for months. And once I did, it immediately worked again.
I think it has always worked for me. The instances break regularly, but I just redirect to another one with libredirect.
hyper-tls fork(pr#509) has been pretty stable for a few months now. But yes, it is unfortunate that it will succumb to cat and mouse game eventually
I went one step further. uBlacklist works wonders from removing reddit from search results. No point in seeing results from a site that won’t let me in.
If you host a SearXNG instance you can replace Reddit links with Redlib links, just add this to your settings.yaml.
hostnames: replace: '(.*\.)?reddit\.com$': 'lib.your.domain' '(.*\.)?redd\.it$': 'lib. your.domain'
Does it work again?
So what? Fuck reddit.
Yeah, fuck Reddit, but there’s a lot of good information up there, even if it’s currently run by paedophiles. People who were on Twitter before Elon Musk bought it still enjoy their communities even though the site is owned by an AI company that generates CSAM.
There’s so many niche communities I used to rely on Reddit for. Bike commuting, DIY, sous vide recipes. I like this place but it’s just not the same. And I feel like once it starts getting to the same size it will get enshittified like everything else. Ugh
Well luckily (for now) you can still read any posts there without logging in if you follow the link from a search engine.
if you are looking for a specific post copying the address into google and clicking on it from there for instance will get you the reddit post without logging in.
Why does every discussion, especially on Lemmy, eventually turn into “it’s run by a pedophile” or “it’s owned by billionaires”?
Reddit is a publicly traded company. Steve Huffman is still the CEO. From what I can tell, the largest shareholders include Tencent and Advance Publications, along with various institutional investors.
Could there be pedophiles working at those companies or individuals who own Reddit stock? Maybe. That’s true of practically any large corporation. It doesn’t mean Reddit is “run by pedophiles.”
And for the love of God, can we stop bringing up Elon Musk every five minutes? I’m exhausted by people forcing him into conversations that have nothing to do with him. Whether you love him or hate him, not every discussion needs to revolve around the same handful of public figures.
My problem isn’t with criticizing Reddit. Criticize the company all you want when it’s deserved. My problem is replacing factual criticism with lazy slogans and guilt-by-association. If you’re going to criticize a company, criticize what it actually does, not some cartoon version of who you imagine owns or controls it.
Where do you think most of the content on here comes from?
STOP
GOING
TO
THE
BAD
SITE
Just quit going there.
That’s difficult when searching for discussion relating to technical issues. Even without adding “site:reddit.com” it comes up with higher quality information in comments from like 7 years ago.
Ask around on Lemmy. You might be surprised how well the Lemmy algorithm brings the right eyes to your post.
And the garbage finished taking itself out. Wonderful.
Thanks for forcing me reddit. Hello lemmy
Hi friend!
Same.
we knew this day would come
Nice. That is just enough of a barrier to stop be using reddit entirely. Not posted in years but sometimes read when bored enough.
Same, I’m 100% here now.
I still lurked since the api bs and after close to 20 yrs on reddit they pull this crap. They can get fucked.
Exactly why I’m here. I used RIF exclusively for a decade, then they killed it. I suffered with their browser version, but now they killed r/all and I ditched for good.
Logging in makes reddit safe?
Trying to figure out how read only access while not logged in makes anything unsafe my brain hurt.
The argument given is that it’s a barrier to AI scrapers. So it keeps them safer. From competition.
Except it's bullshit lol
NOBODY was expecting logic. That’s for AI use only.
Thanks for the content you createdfor us, now log in to see it.
lmao why are you clicking on the worst lemmy clone
It still has tons of information that’s hard to find anywhere else.
if a really good book fell into a garbage disposal i wouldn’t stick my hand in to fish it out
i still like it for klei/oxygen not included blueprints and guides :/
Its dead, Jim.
Can’t even access reddit at all with my VPN turned on now.
Change your server.
But why. It’s too much bullshit from reddit, just intolerable at this point.
Change your social media.
Why should I change when it’s Reddit that sucks?
The Firefox extension Old Reddit Redirect works great. However, fuck Reddit.
at least it did because that’s the one i had and it still blocked it; agree reddit is garbage but half the links in search lead to it so when you’re trying to find something, it kinda sucks not being able to access it.
Oh, strange. It’s still working for me on mobile.
Reddit is such a disgusting shit heap these days. There are still some subreddits worth lurking in but the majority is flooded with AI posts.
It used to be so nice.
much like everything private equity ruined.
I can’t believe how bad it is now. There is no real news. It used to be interesting but it’s so watered down that it’s basically pointless. Couple that with the quality of major news outlets, and we’re basically experiencing a media blackout.
and the AI rage bait posts that are honey pots for pissed off venting that leads to Bans.
I’d add the ubiquity of paywalls these days contributes a lot as well. We used to have it so good.
Welp there goes my only way to access Reddit.
Fuck reddit
Red reader on android works great.
Lol! Keep Reddit safe. They just want that sweet sweet marking info!
Yeah the level of bullshit on reddit is more than what I’m willing to tolerate so I’m permanently lemmy now.
I can change my mac, get a new IP, get a private VPN but it just doesn’t seem worth it anymore
If I have a question - AI now resolves 99% of it. Everything else and discussions - Lemmy is fine and I can use a normal app with no ads
We don’t talk about that site here.
Is this some kind of slow roll out or did you attempt to POST something?
Just deleted a Reddit account that was created in 2009 - I could no longer justify generating revenue of any kind for that shitty company
Looks like they still support RSS.
The app and new reddit are absolute garbage. I’d even call it hostile design. Always has been. Ugh.
Soulphite@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Cant even read posts on the browser without being interrupted about a minute in saying to use their stupid fucking app. Reddit is trash.
the_xboxkiller@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
If you use old.reddit.com, at least on chrome mobile, it doesn’t do this. That’s how I’ve gotten around that pop up. It’s more than mildly infuriating tbh.
matron1049@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
They’ve recently started blocking access to old.reddit.com without logging in.
laurenceOfSuburbia@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Add " switch to Lemmy" to your reddit profile to drive more migrations.
GroundedGator@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hopefully I stay on the unblocked side of old. Though I keep adding things like ?utm=fuckspez to the urls
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
I use uBlock origin to block the pop up, works great