Roaches infest your home and spread diseases. Butterflies live outside and spread pollen.
Wild Ones
Submitted 3 weeks ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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pjwestin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Benign@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
I hate pollen
prti@szmer.info 3 weeks ago
Dlaczego wszyscy nienawidzą pyłki, pytam się do kurwy nędzy?
witheyeandclaw@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You hate pollen from plants that evolved to spread it without the help of butterflies and other insects. These plants’ pollen doesn’t float around causing allergies.
tio_bira@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
well, sounds like a personal problem
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
More like you are ingesting their house
pjwestin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t think i could eat a whole house.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
the pests will destroy homes, and spread diseases. butteflys are much more benign.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
A lot of butterflies eat shit. Like literally, I’m not just hurling baseless insults.
FluorideMind@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Cool. I’d rather they do that over eating and contaminating my pantry.
morto@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Recently, my sister wanted to kill a caterpillar and I said that when she sees a butterfly, she looks in awe, but when she sees a caterpillar, she wants to kill it, and that it explains a lot about our world. It was enough to save the poor hungry caterpillar
Grass@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I will 100% toss the green ones to the neighbour’s chickens. They fuck up my cabbages leaving just the veins and little poop dots then fly away as detestable white moths to fuck up everyone else’s shit. Sometimes I borrow a couple chickens and just let them go find all the yummy buggies themselves. They are so silly and make a fun show out of decimating my enemies.
morto@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Don’t the borrowed chickens eat your plants as well? Along with everything in their path, and even you, if they were big enough?
Silic0n_Alph4@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Diocletian, is that you? The Empire needs you!
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Idk man, all them spider bros prove this wrong.
Sure ascetics are nice but it’s all about utility at the end of the day
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean sure ascetics are nice, but with the whole straight-edge thing, they’re just not that fun to hang out with.
Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
just because somethings take precidence over others sometimes doesnt prove this wrong. there is some form of aesthetic reasonings behind some moral choices made by human beings.
utility can overcome aesthetics handedly in many cases though.
rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
There are a lot of things that we as an animal like or don’t like due to evolutionary benefits.
For example we don’t like the smell of excrement because those that didn’t, stayed further away from it and caught less diseases.
Another good example is snake and spider phobias, those innately scared of venomous creatures survived more often than those that enjoyed their company.I’m 100% that roaches (and relatives) fall into this categories as well. We find them slightly disgusting because those that did, killed them and lived with less diseases than those that thought that they were cute.
Butterflies on the other hand posed no threat to us and remind us of flowers that were evolutionarily important to us (interest in agriculture).
Killing cockroaches is self defence. Killing butterflies is murder.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I avoid killing insects and other small critters but you’re right, I only kill insects that carry diseases like cockroaches and mosquitoes because they carry diseases.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I only do if they are inside. If they are outside they are just part of the food chain.
Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I try to not kill any without asking my scientist friend if they’re invasive.
She said I’m allowed to scrunch all the spotted lantern flies, and I think they’re very neat looking?
janus2@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
lanternflies definitely defy this particular philosophical postulate
for those of us who like the way they look anyway
i stomped one nearby my toddler niece once and she looked a little too enthused by that, so I reminded her it’s important to be a little sad when a living thing dies, even you killed it to help protect the environment :(
harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
One spreads diseases, the other destroys my garden. Both are getting the boot.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Cockroaches tend to be food pests, butterflies are often pollinators. They’re not on the same level.
Dicska@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
… From the human perspective.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes. And probably have been on different levels for hundreds of thousands of years for humans. I would imagine disgust for cockroaches and fascination with butterflies has a degree evolutionary bake in… for humans.
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Call me a gated, but I consider anyone who kills any bug, arachnid, insect, whatever, a hero. Absolutely HATE them all, no matter how vital they are!
hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
you’re a gated
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
What is that even supposed to mean? Did they make a typo?
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
One day you will accidentally step outside this dimension, and find a god, that God will see you the way you see wee critters and act accordingly.
want to be gently pick up by a giant interdimensional paper and cup or want to ve mercilessly squashed?
chunes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Accidentally?
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Squash me harder interdimensional daddy.
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
It’d be hypocritical for me to say gently picked up given my track record with bugs, but my brain is wired to hate them because of my primal fear of them taking charge.
I wouldn’t mind changing that but I don’t have the time and money to get over that fear.
hamid@crazypeople.online 3 weeks ago
Crushing cockroaches is a great way to spread its eggs and have more cockroaches in the future
josephc@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
This is a myth. Squashing a cockroach won’t release the eggs. They’ll die with the rest of it. The rumor likely emerges from the fact that seeing one means they’ve reached a dense enough population that you’re going to see lots. However, there are plenty of reasons not to, mostly around the fact that it’s largely intellectual. Better to clean, remove sources of water, block points of ingress, and call an exterminator.
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Remjnds me of…
Dennis Leary: My fluffy little dog… He’s so cute- There’s the problem. We only want to save the cute animals, don’t we? Yeah. Why don’t we just have animal auditions. Line 'em up one by one and interview them individually.
Dennis: What are you?
Otter: I’m an otter.
Dennis: And what do you do?
Otter: I swim around on my back and do cute little human things with my hands.
Dennis: You’re free to go. And what are you?
Cow: I’m a cow.
Denis: Get in the fucking truck, ok pal!
Cow: But I’m an animal.
Dennis: You’re a baseball glove! Get on that truck!
Cow: I’m an animal, I have rights!
Dennis: (pointing at leather jacket) Yeah, here’s yer fucking cousin, get on the fucking truck, pal!
Dennis Leary, Dennis Leary: No Cure for Cancer
GhostFace@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
This is so true.
Animals need to be treated equally. If you wouldn’t eat your dog or your cat then why would you eat a cow or a chicken? They’re just as intelligent. Just as capable of feeling, of loving.
Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ unironically would eat a dog or cat.
Grew up where, if we wanted meat, grandpa would go in the back yard and grab a duck or hen… Meat was scarce and came directly from the animal.
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I agree. But I don’t see dogs or cats as special. Though arguably cats (which I dislike) are smarter than a cow. Whales and dolphins are also pretty smart. And apes of course. Most of the animals being breed for eating are particularly dumb. It makes them easier to manage. But they are still just animals.
Lowleekun@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
There are no cockroaches where I live so I don’t have to kill any bugs. The few spiders get put outside in a jar.
yesman@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
In both instances, you’re the moral agent who gets to decide. And it’s not our advantage in intelligence or wisdom, it’s our advantage in mass.
Morals have power dynamics, CMM.
diegantobass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
you’re not supposed to use your molars, bonesy
obinice@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Do butterflies infest homes and destroy property?
I feel like it’s less what they look like, and more how they impact us. It’s still very human-centric, but ya know, not so much a beauty thing as one might think at first.
crapwittyname@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Yep. Spiders are top 10 ugliest creatures in history, but I would never kill one unless it was a lethally toxic variety. Because they keep the population of disease-carrying, filthy-egg-laying proboscidean-vomiting flying vermin down. Spiders are bros.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, same thing with house centipedes, but I’d argue they’re even uglier than spiders.
socsa@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Spiders and centipedes won’t actually meaningfully decrease the population of other insects in your house. Both populations will simply grow together if the conditions are correct.
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 3 weeks ago
Textile moths do. Good thing that they’re drab looking.
Velypso@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Moths are not butterflies.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
For real. I don’t like mosquitos, either. Has nothing to do with the fact that they are ugly.
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Mosquitos are actually quite beautiful www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58398905
Just lookup mosquito macro photography - they’re all colorful and fluffy and everything
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
really? Because the Prince of Proboscis was talking smack about you, and he has a schnoz like a bent candy cane. i know you two used to mash face puckers. And then there’s billy buzzbutt? the homeless blood addict who invented molotov cocktails? that motherfucker gave you leprosy. And menopause. and i don’t even know how that is supposed to be contagious. He was ugly as sin. Then there was Virginialetta. I should call her.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
I suggest reading this book.
www.goodreads.com/en/book/…/16158510-wild-ones
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
nope, its all moths, clothes moths, pantry moths are very hard to eradicate. notable mentions are drain moths, and pantry beetles. butterflies are specializes to mostly flowers, or sometimes carrion.