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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Do butterflies infest homes and destroy property?

    I feel like it’s less what they look like, and more how they impact us. It’s still very human-centric, but ya know, not so much a beauty thing as one might think at first.

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    • crapwittyname@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yep. Spiders are top 10 ugliest creatures in history, but I would never kill one unless it was a lethally toxic variety. Because they keep the population of disease-carrying, filthy-egg-laying proboscidean-vomiting flying vermin down. Spiders are bros.

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      • PapaStevesy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah, same thing with house centipedes, but I’d argue they’re even uglier than spiders.

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      • socsa@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Spiders and centipedes won’t actually meaningfully decrease the population of other insects in your house. Both populations will simply grow together if the conditions are correct.

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    • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Textile moths do. Good thing that they’re drab looking.

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      • Velypso@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Moths are not butterflies.

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    • a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      For real. I don’t like mosquitos, either. Has nothing to do with the fact that they are ugly.

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      • drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Mosquitos are actually quite beautiful www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58398905

        Just lookup mosquito macro photography - they’re all colorful and fluffy and everything

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        really? Because the Prince of Proboscis was talking smack about you, and he has a schnoz like a bent candy cane. i know you two used to mash face puckers. And then there’s billy buzzbutt? the homeless blood addict who invented molotov cocktails? that motherfucker gave you leprosy. And menopause. and i don’t even know how that is supposed to be contagious. He was ugly as sin. Then there was Virginialetta. I should call her.

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I suggest reading this book.

      www.goodreads.com/en/book/…/16158510-wild-ones

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      nope, its all moths, clothes moths, pantry moths are very hard to eradicate. notable mentions are drain moths, and pantry beetles. butterflies are specializes to mostly flowers, or sometimes carrion.

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  • pjwestin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Roaches infest your home and spread diseases. Butterflies live outside and spread pollen.

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    • Benign@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I hate pollen

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      • prti@szmer.info ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Dlaczego wszyscy nienawidzą pyłki, pytam się do kurwy nędzy?

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      • witheyeandclaw@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You hate pollen from plants that evolved to spread it without the help of butterflies and other insects. These plants’ pollen doesn’t float around causing allergies.

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      • tio_bira@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        well, sounds like a personal problem

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      More like you are ingesting their house

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      • pjwestin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t think i could eat a whole house.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    the pests will destroy homes, and spread diseases. butteflys are much more benign.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      A lot of butterflies eat shit. Like literally, I’m not just hurling baseless insults.

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      • FluorideMind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Cool. I’d rather they do that over eating and contaminating my pantry.

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  • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Cockroaches tend to be food pests, butterflies are often pollinators. They’re not on the same level.

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  • rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There are a lot of things that we as an animal like or don’t like due to evolutionary benefits.
    For example we don’t like the smell of excrement because those that didn’t, stayed further away from it and caught less diseases.
    Another good example is snake and spider phobias, those innately scared of venomous creatures survived more often than those that enjoyed their company.

    I’m 100% that roaches (and relatives) fall into this categories as well. We find them slightly disgusting because those that did, killed them and lived with less diseases than those that thought that they were cute.

    Butterflies on the other hand posed no threat to us and remind us of flowers that were evolutionarily important to us (interest in agriculture).

    Killing cockroaches is self defence. Killing butterflies is murder.

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    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I avoid killing insects and other small critters but you’re right, I only kill insects that carry diseases like cockroaches and mosquitoes because they carry diseases.

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      • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I only do if they are inside. If they are outside they are just part of the food chain.

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    • Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Butterflies on the other hand posed no threat to us and remind us of flowers that were evolutionarily important to us (interest in agriculture).

      Butterflies are more associated with death, than pretty things in the east.

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  • morto@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Recently, my sister wanted to kill a caterpillar and I said that when she sees a butterfly, she looks in awe, but when she sees a caterpillar, she wants to kill it, and that it explains a lot about our world. It was enough to save the poor hungry caterpillar

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    • Grass@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I will 100% toss the green ones to the neighbour’s chickens. They fuck up my cabbages leaving just the veins and little poop dots then fly away as detestable white moths to fuck up everyone else’s shit. Sometimes I borrow a couple chickens and just let them go find all the yummy buggies themselves. They are so silly and make a fun show out of decimating my enemies.

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      • morto@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Don’t the borrowed chickens eat your plants as well? Along with everything in their path, and even you, if they were big enough?

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      • Silic0n_Alph4@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Diocletian, is that you? The Empire needs you!

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  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Idk man, all them spider bros prove this wrong.

    Sure ascetics are nice but it’s all about utility at the end of the day

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    • PapaStevesy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I mean sure ascetics are nice, but with the whole straight-edge thing, they’re just not that fun to hang out with.

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    • Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      just because somethings take precidence over others sometimes doesnt prove this wrong. there is some form of aesthetic reasonings behind some moral choices made by human beings.

      utility can overcome aesthetics handedly in many cases though.

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  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Remjnds me of…

    Dennis Leary: My fluffy little dog… He’s so cute- There’s the problem. We only want to save the cute animals, don’t we? Yeah. Why don’t we just have animal auditions. Line 'em up one by one and interview them individually.

    Dennis: What are you?

    Otter: I’m an otter.

    Dennis: And what do you do?

    Otter: I swim around on my back and do cute little human things with my hands.

    Dennis: You’re free to go. And what are you?

    Cow: I’m a cow.

    Denis: Get in the fucking truck, ok pal!

    Cow: But I’m an animal.

    Dennis: You’re a baseball glove! Get on that truck!

    Cow: I’m an animal, I have rights!

    Dennis: (pointing at leather jacket) Yeah, here’s yer fucking cousin, get on the fucking truck, pal!

    Dennis Leary, Dennis Leary: No Cure for Cancer

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    • GhostFace@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This is so true.

      Animals need to be treated equally. If you wouldn’t eat your dog or your cat then why would you eat a cow or a chicken? They’re just as intelligent. Just as capable of feeling, of loving.

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      • Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ unironically would eat a dog or cat.

        Grew up where, if we wanted meat, grandpa would go in the back yard and grab a duck or hen… Meat was scarce and came directly from the animal.

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      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I agree. But I don’t see dogs or cats as special. Though arguably cats (which I dislike) are smarter than a cow. Whales and dolphins are also pretty smart. And apes of course. Most of the animals being breed for eating are particularly dumb. It makes them easier to manage. But they are still just animals.

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  • RebekahWSD@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I try to not kill any without asking my scientist friend if they’re invasive.

    She said I’m allowed to scrunch all the spotted lantern flies, and I think they’re very neat looking?

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    • janus2@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      lanternflies definitely defy this particular philosophical postulate

      for those of us who like the way they look anyway

      i stomped one nearby my toddler niece once and she looked a little too enthused by that, so I reminded her it’s important to be a little sad when a living thing dies, even you killed it to help protect the environment :(

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  • hamid@crazypeople.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Crushing cockroaches is a great way to spread its eggs and have more cockroaches in the future

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  • harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    One spreads diseases, the other destroys my garden. Both are getting the boot.

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  • AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Call me a gated, but I consider anyone who kills any bug, arachnid, insect, whatever, a hero. Absolutely HATE them all, no matter how vital they are!

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    • hypnicjerk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      you’re a gated

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      • Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        What is that even supposed to mean? Did they make a typo?

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      One day you will accidentally step outside this dimension, and find a god, that God will see you the way you see wee critters and act accordingly.

      want to be gently pick up by a giant interdimensional paper and cup or want to ve mercilessly squashed?

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      • PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Squash me harder interdimensional daddy.

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      • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Accidentally?

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      • AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’d be hypocritical for me to say gently picked up given my track record with bugs, but my brain is wired to hate them because of my primal fear of them taking charge.

        I wouldn’t mind changing that but I don’t have the time and money to get over that fear.

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  • Lowleekun@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There are no cockroaches where I live so I don’t have to kill any bugs. The few spiders get put outside in a jar.

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  • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    In both instances, you’re the moral agent who gets to decide. And it’s not our advantage in intelligence or wisdom, it’s our advantage in mass.

    Morals have power dynamics, CMM.

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  • diegantobass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Wait, isn’t it all esthetics at the end of the day?

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    you’re not supposed to use your molars, bonesy

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