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Honestly wtf?

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I was going to research this myself, but then I got high.

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    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I was gonna right my final report, but then I got high…

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      • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        And now I’m shitposting on Lemmy and I know why, yeah-heah…

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  • mech@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The seeds are carried by birds and can survive in a dormant state for years.
    Lots of stuff like trees washed away by rivers end up floating in the ocean.
    But it’s also perfectly feasible that a limited trade happened far in the past.
    Polynesians show that you can reliably cross even the pacific on boats made using stone tools and fire.

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    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Humans before the Ice Age were fishing for tuna in the deep sea and were coastal hopping everywhere there are coasts to hop.

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      • baldingpudenda@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Most of human history:

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Limited trade… There were full on global trade networks through most of human history. Ironically, not as much across the Atlantic, because civilization in the Americas was centered on the West coast

      But you find all sorts of stuff turning up everywhere. Not much of it, and most of it is lost to history, but enough to establish that global trade networks were the norm and not the exception

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    • MoonMelon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Same as Rhipsalis_baccifera.

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      • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Oh wow, didn’t know that! :O

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  • becausechemistry@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Graduate students famously never make mistakes (like including their own hair in samples) and also never smoke weed. So that couldn’t be it.

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They especially don’t smoke weed. No sir!

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      • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        And especially not mushrooms, no way.

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    • ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Datura Stramonium isn’t weed and is almost never used by anyone… also it’s not from south America

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      • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Its likely origin was in Central America,[2][4] and it has been introduced in many world regions.[5][6][7]

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura_stramonium

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The swallow may fly south with the sun, or the house-martin or the plumber may seek warmer climes in winter; yet these are not strangers to our land.

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    • weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT COCONUTS MIGRATE?

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      • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Depends on if it’s being carried by an African or European swallow.

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    • PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Plumber?

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      • deHaga@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Failed mechanics

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      • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yes that puzzled me too, I checked like 5 different transcripts and they all said the same thing.

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  • Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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    I walk past this plant all the time and I’m super tempted.

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    • BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Don’t, every trip report is horrifying, there are better ways to get high, that are also safer.

      On top of being a bad experience datura doses are very hard to get right, you are very likely to overdose and die. And like I said, If you don’t die, you will get a traumatic experience that can possibly fuck your mental health for decades.

      Alternative drugs exist if you want to get high. Please check trip reports and harm reduction sources before trying anything.

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      • redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Like salvia but worse. And every salvia story is awful.

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    • Kaput@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      isn’t that like the nightmare drug, that you can rather easily die from?

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      • Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yeh, I just want to make a weak tea and slowly try it out.

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    • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I also did salvia but I wouldn’t touch datura with a 10 ft pole.

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      • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Oh god, I wouldn’t touch salvia divinorum either unless you want an intense, mind-melting trip that lasts 5 minutes and a sweaty itch all over your body that lasts for 8. That’s not a recreational trip, that’s for people who want to feel uncomfortable as a new life experience.

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    • quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I tried stramonium a couple times by smoking some seeds, I would describe it as unpleasant enough to not bother again, in the just not worth it category.

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      • Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        How was it unpleasant? You don’t have to answer. Im curious.

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    • chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      i’ve not done datura myself but by all accounts it’s much more like benadryl than salvia, to the point that benedryl is described as being “like datura junior”. you should check out some of these trip reports and think long and hard about if that experience is worth the risks to you.

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    • tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Hi, drug nerd here. Especially psychedelic plants and fungi.

      Don’t.

      And not just because I tried it in my twenties and had a really horrible time. But also because I’ve learned a lot in the last two decades about the plant, and that potency of the alkaloids and it can vary significantly.

      A dose someone took in a trip report where they had mild effects could cause temporary or permanent blindness for you. Because the plant that you are consuming may be a lot more potent than theirs was.

      But yes, the trip is horrible. If you want to know what it’s like it’s a form of delirium. So if you’ve ever been up for long periods of time in your mind has started playing tricks on you it’s like that. On top of this you also experience urinary retention, which means I spent the night getting up to use the bathroom while delirious and being unable to pee.

      And remember I mentioned temporary blindness, I had what you could call the opposite of tunnel vision. I wasn’t able to focus and could really only see using my peripheral vision. This effect lasted well into the next day.

      And while I was actually high, I was mostly experiencing audio hallucinations and I just wanted it to be over so I tried to sleep through it.

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  • Eq0@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Wouldn’t there be other possible plants that would provide the same alkaloid compounds?

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    • quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That was what I thought until I reached this citation.

      Charred capsules of Datura stramonium were recovered in a Middle Bronze Age ritual pit at Prats, Andorra, ca. 1600 BCE103

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      • Eq0@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Ohhh daaaaam!!

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      • Hoimo@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        But if it was growing in Europe at that time, wouldn’t it be all over the place and be in books in the Middle Ages? Unless the Bronze Agers somehow smoked all of it.

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  • thejoker954@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Birds?

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    • forrgott@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      But birds aren’t real, haven’t you heard?

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      • Slovene@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Heard what?

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    • Rhaedas@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Have to be migratory, of course.

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    • DaedalousIlios@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Damn Central American Swallows!

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      • discocactus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        They have a higher velocity, you know.

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    • negativenull@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios!

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  • SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Some things get around because they’re so pretty, don’t worry about it

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  • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Uh, that’s… Shit! I was going to sleep soon too!

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  • MoonMelon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I live in the middle of nowhere in Eastern North America. Saw some growing all by itself in the middle of the lane. It never came back in that spot and I’ve never seen any other plants. The seed pods are really spiky and light, they must hitch a ride on stuff.

    I decided not to try it after reading a few “trip reports”.

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So, you’re telling me that this plant…
    puts sunglasses
    Went on a high trip.

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  • cypherpunks@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    not the first time OP is raising questions like this 🤔

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