Based and Red Pilled Gigachad, many such cases 😔

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• EarthshipTechIntern01@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  TBH, Rupert Murdock HELPED Putin refine/put RT on steroids. He was marketing his propaganda (division) here in the USA since Reagan let him through the door. Russian extras are just a bump up in the last 10-15 years.

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• Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  THE LARGEST MOST COMMONLY WATCHED BEST FUNDED MEDIA OUTLET ISNT MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!1!

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• CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  To be fair, everyone’s views are shaped by propaganda of some kind, it’s quite literally unavoidable if you exist within any society. Lots of people like to think that their ideas are just the product of their own independent thinking, but that isn’t really how people work.

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  • DicJacobus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The current state American society has been in for the last 10 to 15 years is heavily a consequence of Russian info ops. Many countries run info ops. But no country has done as much damage as Russia

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    • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      We need a national online forum

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    • ProvableGecko@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, no. American Oligarchs did social media. Youtube, Twitter, facebook, instagram all American. First they did it for money now they are doing it openly for power. Cambridge Analytica, anti-vax, anti-trans, anti-abortion, anti-immigrant all of these are made by Americans to poison the world. And they are going to do much worse with AI. Americans destroyed the world.

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    • AppleTea@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No other country has done as much? We’re gonna just ignore how much support Israel has thrown behind Trump? Netanyahu was meeting and communicating with him during the 2024 election cycle, all while ignoring the Biden administration! Snubbing a sitting president for a prospective candidate!

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  • AreaKode@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The key is to be constantly aware of it. Never follow someone blindly.

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    • pressanykeynow@lemmy.world ⁨57⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      That’s true, but you still follow some propaganda. You are aware of it, great, but what’s the difference between someone following the propaganda being aware of it and someone following it blindly?

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  • sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You’re not wrong. I like to think I’m immune to proponganda because I’m anarchist but it’s pretty obvious that I can be fooled just as easily as anyone by the pretense of speaking truth to power

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    • safesyrup@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My then history teacher said everyone is affected by propaganda, even trained and studied individuals like him. To think you are immune to influence from other people is very naive.

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  • Photonic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    While that is true, some propaganda is definitely more harmful while some are relatively harmless.

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  • nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I am not going to believe your propaganda! My pristine, untainted thoughts won’t take this slander. /s

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yes, but most propaganda is not specifically fascist in nature.

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    • pressanykeynow@lemmy.world ⁨51⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Is there propaganda that is fascist in nature? It’s bad propaganda then. Can you give an example? Propaganda should always be for all good and everyone’s happiness. Specifics don’t matter, you can bring the followers wherever you want later.

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• SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  ML is basically the same too.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    whipping out my Horseshoe Theory graph

    So, as you can see, the tips of the horseshoe are where the Russian Propaganda lives.

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    • rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I prefer the Pac-Man interpretation

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    • joyjoy@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hey horseshoe theory, wanna… touch tips?

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  • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    [lemmy.world/post/29072279](Documentation Megathread )

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  • sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So I’ve seen.

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• surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨53⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Uh huh. The ol’ ‘anyone who criticizes NATO proxy wars is a Russian stooge.’

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  • SapientLasagna@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    As opposed to the old “only the Great Powers have agency” gambit, which is actual Russian propaganda. Heaven forbid countries other than the US, Russian and China be even conceived of being able to take actions on their own.

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• doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is true. Also there are zero mainstream media outlets that are not propaganda of some kind or another at this point. When you intentionally read all kinds of biased news it becomes more and more obvious.

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• M1ch431@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah, let’s just ignore the right-wing think tanks, conservative/MAGA influencers who aren’t on Russia’s payroll, and right-wing “news” organizations. It’s totally just the Russia and not right-wingers trying to destroy the country to grab all the power for themselves…

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  • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world ⁨53⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    The majority ARE on Russia’s payroll, it’s literally how they got famous. They were blackmailable, due to crimes including visiting illegal porn sites and snuff sites, which has content literally made by Putin of his prisoners and people he dislikes to warn others to stay in line and to get blackmail.

    So Russia picks someone they can blackmail FIRST, and THEN has them make content that they advertise and have bot armies (slaves, human slaves) talk about in comments etc. They do this EXACT strategy wirh crypto tickers and with fundraisers like for Gaza. If the bots (HUMAN SLAVES) do not perform well, they get tortured, starved, etc. It is literally thousands of people in these networks, and they are working in concert with BRICS, not just Russia.

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    • M1ch431@slrpnk.net ⁨46⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      You can source your claims. I’ll wait. There is too much here that is hyperbole and not based in reality.

      If a majority of right-wing influencers are literally and currently traitors, that is a serious accusation and requires serious proof.

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  • Denjin@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What’s so insidious about russia’s psiop over the last few decades is that all they’ve done is gently nudge the dial. They’ve sown distrust of traditional media and of democratic institutions, they’ve polarised discourse to that communities that mostly rubbed alongside one another reasonably well now are so idealogically opposed to each other that the middle ground has evaporated.

    And if you think “haha stupid MAGAs” falling for propaganda, I got news for you buddy, you’ve fallen for it too.

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    • M1ch431@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’ve fallen for propaganda that convinces you that there is an external enemy to worry about instead of actually looking at the situation critically. Right-wing organizations drive right-wing talking points.

      They’ve sown distrust of traditional media and of democratic institutions

      Pretty sure they did that to themselves. I didn’t need Russia feeding me propaganda to see through the bullshit, and many others reached that conclusion on their own. The Fairness Doctrine being repealed is one big reason why traditional media failed. Russia didn’t do that.

      they’ve polarised discourse to that communities that mostly rubbed alongside one another reasonably well now are so idealogically opposed to each other that the middle ground has evaporated.

      Right-wingers and liberals alike have polarized discourse. Leftists aren’t innocent either, especially MLs (many whom seem to be biased towards Russia), but there are plenty that I have interacted with that or witnessed that were exceedingly fair and human.

      Liberals blame anybody to the left of them for not falling in line, constantly mock or berate them for demanding better, and do absolutely nothing to meaningfully do anything to improve their preferred party or improve the human condition in America. As for the right, we all know what they do.

      middle ground has evaporated.

      Politics and governance shouldn’t be a game of tug of war where the right have a monster truck pulling their side and Democrats pretending to hold the rope on their side.

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  • phdepressed@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If you look into it an amazing amount of them are further funded by Russia. Not solely but enough to make them bigger than they’d be otherwise.

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    • M1ch431@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you look into it an amazing amount of them are further funded by Russia.

      You seem to know more than me based on your response. You are claiming an amazing amount are presently funded by Russia, source?

      Do these people also take money from right-wing organizations?

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  • DicJacobus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They haven’t been on russias payroll for years.

    They genuinely believe the shit they swill. By and large the paid agents were 5 to 10 years ago.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, I don’t think they need to be on Russia’s payroll anymore. They’re in deep.

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    • M1ch431@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How is Russia controlling their talking points now? Is everybody on the right threatened, blackmailed, or are otherwise under duress? We know they aren’t the most intelligent bunch, but they are being traitors for their own reasons - for the most part.

      The major talking points mostly came from the aforementioned organizations and outlets even when some of these people were being paid.

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• DandomRude@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I’m not entirely sure why all of this is being blamed on Russian propaganda. To me, that seems like a lame excuse for the US getting itself into this mess.

  In any case, there will certainly be no mysterious agents coming to rescue you from your self-imposed fascism. You’ll have to do that yourselves, so I would strongly recommend that you stop assigning blame and finally do something—otherwise, you won’t be able to post on Lemmy anymore because you’ll be brought into line by the state—then you could complain about Russian conditions, if that were still possible.

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  • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    You don’t know why because you are PROFOUNDLY uneducated about it.

    Here’s a documentary from 2018 with McCain and Clinton: youtu.be/5umiMThrlsA

    There’s also the book American Kompromat by Unger that goes into SUBSTANTIAL detail for DECADES and shows how Russia has been accruing blackmail globally.

    And then multiple protests globally (Romania, Georgia, Slovakia, Serbia) regarding online Russian interference plus many many memos including from our own government.

    home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2766

    Russia has engaged in MASSIVE MASSIVE online warfare, including on Lemmy (eg, you, maybe). It’s more effective than bullets and biowarfare in some ways. Idk how you can’t see how big of a deal it is.

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    The best propaganda takes advantage of flaws already present in a culture, it doesn’t try to create new ones

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• renzev@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I personally like to listen to both sides of the story so that I can absorb 2x the disinformation

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  • affenlehrer@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The cancel each other out of you’re lucky

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    • renzev@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It depends on the phase. Sometimes you get constructive interference and they add up instead.

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• Una@europe.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I only trust cats :3

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  • T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I see you’re in the (warm furry pockets) of big cat!

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• fnrir@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Damn… I’m desperate, but even I wouldn’t suck that

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• Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Same statement from me, very different result. Death to fascists!

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• theUwUhugger@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Some feel special for being contrarian!

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• taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I mean, sure, like a year ago but at this point I also don’t trust what the government and mainstream media say.

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• Ileftreddit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Russia and China have been manipulating discourse in the US since 2016; and American media is happy to let them.

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