prevent access to online services…that’s all they should be allowed to do. I don’t think I’d be able hold back on any company that decided what I do with MY hardware.
Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA
Submitted 5 weeks ago by kebab@endlesstalk.org to games@lemmy.world
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Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
If they going to brick the console they better refund the money.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They haven’t so far.
edwardbear@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
better consumer protection says what
Klear@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It says “Sign the Stop Destroying Videogames initiative if you can”
edwardbear@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I have, and I have advocated for it everywhere.
blobchoice@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Common European W
Mikelius@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
I secretly hope they screw up and brick all the switch 2 devices by uploading a bad update, and are forced to send replacement units, potentially crippling finances of their company.
Doubt it’ll happen, and I’d feel bad for people and kids just wanting to enjoy some Mario and stuff on their weekends (which makes me sorta hope it doesn’t happen at the same time), but… Nintendo needs to be hit very hard for their constant BS.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Or some “bad actor” will figure out a way to upload and push the bricking update. Forcing probably a recall and/or a costly class action. Maybe that will make them think about putting a kill switch on there in the first place.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
In 2008, someone did the math. Just from 2 years of Wii sales, just the hardware, not the games, Nintendo could stay afloat for 163 years based on the ecconomy at the time.
So, lets adjust for inflation that we know it is today, and call it 110 years.
I don’t think it’s been 110 years since 2006. I could be wrong though. Covid screwed up everybodies internal clock.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Because in the US, you guys aren’t really consumers (which would give you a status), you’re merely walking and vaguely sentient (hopefully enough to click on “add to cart”) wallets that the corporations pluck money from at every opportunity. This is your legally enforced reality.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
We are not even people anymore.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Lol, why even buy such a piece of shit then? Even when in the EU, the fact they do this is enough.
victorz@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Because I have no intention of playing pirated games so I’m at no risk? Also I’m in the EU so I’d be fine regardless?
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Which is fine until the piracy detection system has a false positive and you lose your Switch. Or you buy a second hand copy of a game the original owner made a copy of and continues to use and your switch gets bricked. I understand you’re in the EU, but this kind of nonsense would definitely put me off a system that’s already inordinately expensive.
LycanGalen@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Pirated games can be one or several of the following:
- a means of participating in a chosen culture when players can’t afford/justify the price tag (one Nintendo game now costs the same as a week’s worth of groceries for two people where I live)
- a form of archive because game publishers are notorious for killing games
- a form of backup because things happen to disks/cartridges
- a form of backup because servers go down
- a form of backup because not everyone’s internet is reliable
- a means making the game more accessible by adding features (eg. the option of infinite lives/health for someone with muscular dystrophy)
- a form of protest over ever-increasing prices at the same time as ever-increasing layoffs, and ever-decreasing quality.
More directly relevant to you: the money you give Nintendo goes to their legal teams, to continue to find loopholes around the protections you have. They’re the ones fighting the “Stop Killing Games” movement. Nintendo recently won a lawsuit against 1fichier in France for hosting emulated games. It has been marked as a “significant” win against any level of piracy in the EU. Nintendo is continually working to make sure that despite living in the EU, you won’t be fine regardless. Your purchase directly funds that.
Maybe you have no intention of playing pirated games, but I hope you can appreciate that this is larger than just some teenager feeling powerful because they stole something?
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s already happened that Nintendo remotely bricked a switch 2 because its owner bought an used game, but that game was dumped by its previous owner.
You also have no intention of buying 100% genuine original, but used, games?
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Seriously! Just buy a used 3DS and hack it to run every game, emulator, etc. You can actually play DOS games and ScummVM games on it!
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
You can’t play Donkey Kong Bananza
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Sounds fine to me. But I bet there are a handful of “nice” exclusives.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Remember, when tech bros complain that Regulations Stifle Innovation, this is the kind of “innovation” they’re talking about.
Agent641@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They want to innovate some more money out of your pockets.
Chill_Dan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They can have the moths over my cold dead body.
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
Well, their shitty attitude towards consumers is why I won’t be getting a switch 2. So they can try bricking my asshole.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ll do what I did with Switch games: download the emulated versions, barely play them, and seed them.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
It’s gonna be a shame if H4ckerM4n2015 may brick you Switch after loosing a game of Mario Kart.
SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Remember when one guy got thousands of people banned from Call of Duty through exploiting the anti-cheat?
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 5 weeks ago
Nah, they can, but likely won’t risk it w/European owners’ litigation.
Change the headline a little bit.
Nikls94@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s less about rights and more about “consumer protection”
Goten@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
i stopped buying nintendo after wii. fuck them
coldasblues@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Yet another reason for you peasants to throw down your pitch forks and accept the all mighty PC as your lord and savior.
Zink@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
I have had this long-term tendency in my gaming platforms where I alternate between PC and console as my primary long-term focus. For example, I remember that 2019 was almost nothing but VR gaming on my PC, but in more recent years I’ve used game pass on xbox to play all kinds of titles that I wouldn’t have otherwise.
My family uses the Xbox pretty regularly still, but I think now that I can use my Linux PC from the couch (without taking over the TV) it has broken me from caring about consoles. Like, I recognize the skill of Nintendo’s developers and I know I’m going to play the mario & kart releases eventually, but I haven’t even considered getting a switch 2. I know a family member has one, so likely my first time playing Mario Kart World will be at thanksgiving, lol.
I am also a fan of emulation. I’d be content if you only ever allowed me to play my NES, SNES, and PSX roms for the rest of my life. But since Nintendo’s business model means putting their beautifully designed games only on restricted/limited hardware, it’s a better way to play some of their newer stuff too.
glitchdx@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
yo ho, all hands, hoist the colors high,
heave ho, thieves and beggars, never shall we die.
The current management of nintendo will never figure it out. Piracy is the competition. It’s not about getting the thing for free, it’s about getting a better service. I’d buy mario 3 again (again) if that meant I’d get a rom I could run on my pc through FCEUX and enjoy all the features/enhancements that software offers. There’s a handful of gamecube games available on switch2, but all of them are better through Dolphin than what official hardware can offer. Nintendo’s refund policy is a joke. The eshop is unpleasant to use. Even ignoring all of that, the original switch only had a handful of actual first party titles, not enough to justify the console’s price tag (and each those were merely ok, not enough to justify buying a console for one game).
sega sells their games on steam, and while I don’t like the emulator they use I can at least say that I own a legal copy of sonic spinball.
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 5 weeks ago
Nintendo: “you bought our hardware, but we will brick it if you don’t use it in exactly the way we like!”
sturmblast@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Nintendo, you are supposed to be the good guy company remember?
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Sadly the good guys retired and left the company with the rats.
Chill_Dan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I started pirating my Nintendo needs last generation and it runs so much better. Never buying from this anti-consumer company again.
kaotic@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This was the final straw for me, I’m done with Nintendo.
nthavoc@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Why do I suddenly hear someone yelling “CHALLENGE ACCEPTED” ?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
Hmm… How to use Switch 2 from behind a VPN so they think I am in Europe?
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Gonna go ahead and guess; buy it in EU, turn on your vpn, connect, setup, register. Keep your vpn turned on perpetually. Maybe you’ll be required to have a european bank when you make purchases as well.
bier@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
Or just get a steam deck, or another device you can install your own software on. This for me is a reason I never would get an iPhone. Although I don’t have a ton of apps from outside the playstore I do want the option. Maybe my next phone will just be a Linux phone.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Wouldnt you need a european account as well?
I believe to have heard about regional accounts being a thing.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Some routers will let you configure a VPN onto a VLAN or SSID. Set that up and configure your Switch to use it and you’re golden.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
From the other comments, I am not sure if they understood my question; could I just run the VPN on any PC on the network and it works for the whole network, or does the service need to run on the device itself? Because I can’t do anything directly with my ISP managed router and my personally router is too old go support my gaming setup (it doesn’t have WiFi 6 or 5GHz and I do VR).
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
NetBird is your friend 😄
w8ghT@lemy.nl 5 weeks ago
NintenDONT Boycott in Full Effect!
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Nintendo has already disabled my ability to give a shit about Nintendo, let’s see them disable my CFW 3DS babyyyyy
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
When they are release a new system they will brick them anyway
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Hot
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
considers altering entire network stack to trick a Switch 2 into thinking it never leaves EU soil
“Nah, I’ll probably just not buy one. Fuck em.”
Etterra@discuss.online 5 weeks ago
Steam Deck, nothing more than Steam Deck…
Bongles@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
I kind of want to pick one up, but i can’t get a clear picture on if I should wait for a steam deck 2. From what I could find, they want to wait until there’s enough of an upgrade to be worth it. At one point that suggested around 2025, but more recent stuff makes it seem like they’re not even working on one, and other stuff hints that they are.
Honse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Are there switch 2 emulators yet?