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It really fucks with my recommendations, but fuck em™

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨cm0002@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨memes@sopuli.xyz⁩

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  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    IIRC, Spotify watches the system volume and doesn’t pay for streams playing when it’s muted. Physically unplugging your speakers should work, though.

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    • Alk@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you have a desktop and not a laptop, it’s always a great idea to get a separate sound controller. Either a dac/amp for nice headphones, volume controls on a wireless headset, or even buy a sound mixer like the rodecaster duo so you can assign independent applications to each physical slider on the mixer. I do that last one and it’s such a quality of life improvement if you use your PC a lot.

      All of these options can’t be seen from Spotify.

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      • qaz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t think a site can view your system volume. They can however see if a tab is specifically muted developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/…/MutedInfo

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      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I was not expecting that mixer to be nearly $1,000 lol

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      • olicvb@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        you can assign independent applications > I know you can do this in windows without needing an extra sound controller it’s in ‘Settings>system>Sound>Volume Mixer’

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    • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Interesting, I actually just adjust the volume knob on my desktop speakers so I didn’t think of this when I wrote the meme.

      But now I kinda wanna see if I can hijack this monitoring it does and fake 100% volume to the application at all times…hmm welp to the mile long project list it goes!

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    • Kualdir@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think if you just use voicemeeter and set it to a monitor as output that should work

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    • shplane@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What if the volume is really low? That’s how I do it

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  • gravitywell@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why not just stop using spotify? You cant possibly stream enough to cost them more then they earn in a month they earn from you using them. Even on mute they can still count you as an active user when it comes to selling ads and promiting themselves.

    If you really want to hurt spotify, use one of the services like Soundiiz that lets you export your lists and library, grab a 2 month trial of tidal for $2 and point tidal-dl to download it all for offline use. Get yourself a nice dedicated music player like a classic ipod running rockbox. If space is an issue convert from flac to opus.

    If you really, really, want to hurt spotify do what i did and take the above instructions and then also spin up your own FunkWhale pod so everyone can also enjoy that music without giving corporations like spotify a dime.

    You arent going beat corporations by using their products “too much”, the way to beat them is to replace them with self hosted alternatives.

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    • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It's not about using it not using Spotify. It's about getting the artists more money.

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      • gravitywell@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well if thats your goal buy their music or merch, or just send them cash directly, most artists are on bandcamp, smaller artists will at least have a venmo or cashapp you can send to.

        Artists arent making their rent money on whatever pittance spotify pays them, you would do more good for the actual artist if you just promoted their work and gave them a few bucks directly.

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      • Greddan@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Tidal is pretty good for that. Better app than Spotify and better quality too!

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      • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Getting the artists more money is ALL about not using Spotift.

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    • trashboat@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is there a good FOSS service for discovering new music based on taste? I hate a lot of the closed-source algorithm BS that corpo apps force users into, but Spotify winds up doing a fair job at finding deep cuts that I enjoy

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      • DmMacniel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You mean something like Last.fm and Listenbrainz.org ?

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      • gravitywell@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s lots of good music communities to follow on lemmy: beehaw.org/post/516009

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    • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Can they shut down your funkwhale for sharing?

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      • gravitywell@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        In theory funkwhale can be private, but no one is going to bother you for having a public one. Mine had been running for 2 years without any takedown requests.

        If enough people started using funkwhale to the point it actually affected spotifys revinue, but as much as i would like for that to happen, i dont think its very likely.

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    • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is tidal-dl working well? It seems to be abandoned. I was trying to get or make something to automatically download songs that I favourite but kinda dropped it after looking at some options.

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      • gravitywell@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Tidal-dl-ng is the currently active version.

        github.com/exislow/tidal-dl-ng

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  • Manticore@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    AFAIK this fucks with artists, not Spotify.

    Spotify doesn’t pay artists a flat amount per stream. Instead, Spotify’s profits are split between artists based on their streams.

    By playing a bunch of songs, all you do is give those artists slightly more, and other artists slightly less – at least in theory. In practice you’re probably not steaming enough to change overall percentages.

    So if anything, you are moving profit to support the artists that Spotify is promoting by putting in your ‘radio’. Which likely means instead of going to small undiscovered musicians, it goes towards popular established ones that Spotify assumes you’ll like.

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    • gopher@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yep, plus a bunch of AI generated music (or music they bought from producers for cheap onetime fees) that Spotify throws in there so they don’t have to pay actual artists.

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  • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why even use Spotify at all? Isn’t it like the worst option in terms of actually paying creators? Even YouTube Music is much better option imho, although the app is unresponsive and a UX nightmare.

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    • Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think one of the allures of Spotify is a good algorithm which often recommends niche and small artists according to your taste

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      • urandom@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Really. For a long time it’s kept giving me songs which I’ve heard a thousand times. I can’t seem to find anything new

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    • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Youtube is owned by google, who suck dick and are taking an active role in devolving democracy.

      Spotify just sucks dick. Also support EU…everyone should move to deezer maybe.

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      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Spotify supports rogan with those $$$$s. fuck that guy

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    • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I use deezer, way easier to use downloaders to pirate music off of it, then deactivate my account when I’m not.

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    • MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      While that’s definitely true it’s not like there are any streaming platforms paying artists what they actually deserve. Other streaming services do payout slightly more per stream but they also don’t have the number of paying users Spotify has. So you’re likely going to make more off of spotify than any other service even if they do payout less per stream.

      Not defending spotify though. Them and the record labels are absolute scum. Just making the point that if you want artists to benefit from you listening to their music just buy their music outright. Or go see them live if you can. Don’t stream it. Because streaming pays basically nothing no matter where you stream it from.

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      • szczuroarturo@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Spotify is worse not really beacuse it pays less but due to the way it pays the artist where all streams are pooled together. That incetivizes bot farms way too much and is the main reason i even tried anything else( tidal but i really didint like it so i got back ) . It really should have a model where your money goes to the artists you listened. In defence of spotify tho changing it is likely pain in the arse. Well not technicaly but i imagine they have countless contracts where the way of profit sahring is stated and would violate the agreement.

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    • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The YouTube music app has always been very snappy and responsive on my phone. I think the ui is slick although not always optimal to navigate while driving.

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  • Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They stopped paying out for that after Sleepify.

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    • LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That was Vulfpeck, wasn’t it? I ought to get back into them.

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  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Jokes on you. They just dilute the royalty payment among all the artists you’ve streamed, so Spotify’s cut isn’t really bring affected.

    Fun right?

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    • orb360@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Worse, they start injecting AI generated songs when you’re not paying attention and can keep more of the royalties for themselves

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      • sheogorath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        IIRC this is already happening, some people are reporting getting AI music in their auto playlists.

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Even worse still: you’re supporting joe fuckin rogan and the payments music get from spotify are pitiful. you’d have done much better by the artist by cancelling spotify and buying an album or shirt or ticket.

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  • Lightfire228@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I use Tidal instead of Spoofie

    Same price, higher quality audio, and imo a better recommendation feed

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    • Raab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I use tidal as well, just wish there was mobile/desktop sync

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  • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Excess ain’t rebellion.
    You’re drinking what they’re selling.
    Your self-destruction doesn’t hurt them.
    Your chaos won’t convert them.
    They’re so happy to rebuild it.
    You’ll never really kill it.
    Yeah, excess ain’t rebellion.
    You’re drinking what they’re selling.
    Excess ain’t rebellion.
    You’re drinking,
    You’re drinking,
    You’re drinking what they’re selling.

    Spotify loves you for this. And the artists can’t perceive it.

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    • korazail@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I get the thrust of the song, but I have a question for you and/or anyone else who has insight:

      I make small aggressions, like OP, where I assume I’m costing a corpo and giving to an artist through it, even if minuscule.

      Examples:

      Similar to OP, I have a streaming service ‘downloaded’ playlist of songs I like. I tend to leave my PC playing them in shuffle/repeat during my workday. I might have my volume on or off depending on my level of focus, but I can’t see how that “engagement” doesn’t benefit the artist without costing me anything – maybe a smidge more electricity.

      Since I saw The Spiffing Brit’s runtime video, I no longer close a youtube tab if I decide I want something else. I mute the tab, set the speed to .25 and ignore it for a while. Costs me electricity, not that much bandwidth, and presumably pays the channel more than usual. Maybe fucks with analytics per-video, but probably not enough to bother the creator, and if it fucks with ‘the algorithm’ and pushes people to channels I already like, then that’s a google problem.

      I also have an Epic Games account, where I “buy” every single free game. I assume these have either already paid the developer a fixed fee for supporting development, or are paying based on sales volume. Either way, they presumably paid money to be able to offer these as a loss-leader. Most are games I would not have bought anyway, so I’m not costing the developer a potential sale and I will never buy anything through Epic games, so it should be just a loss. I actually want insight on this one, in case there are devs/publishers here. If this costs you when I buy your free game, there might be others like me who just need to know we’re not helping.

      Aside from the fact that my engagement with these platforms could be used as leverage (’ we have X million active users…'), I can’t see any negative to my attacks on them. It’s possible the artists can’t perceive it, but if the corpos love it, they wouldn’t make me pass a CAPTCHA to buy a game.

      The question, then, is: Am I hurting the artists, or helping them?

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      • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s a rigged game. It’s like you’re at a casino. It doesn’t matter HOW you play the game, the casino wins. The way to beat them is not to engage with them at all.

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  • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What is a “spotify”?

    /s

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    • Railcar8095@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Otra a e-commerce platform.

      /s

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  • Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So you pay Spotify money each month. Do you really think that they are paying artists more than you pay them? Doubt it.

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    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There might also be advertisements, in which case they’re getting more out of playing than they lose.

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  • HailSeitan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Revenue is distributed proportionally as a percentage of revenue based on streams relative to other artists, not per stream

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  • bricked@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I always do this accidentally when my earphones’ battery runs out

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  • miridius@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    PSA: there is a revanced patch to remove ads from spotify

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    • UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If i remember correctly your can get banned for that

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      • axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        we got spotube tho

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  • the_abecedarian@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Spotify wants this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sNsrwokPSY

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    • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Tl;Dw?

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      • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I tried. Endured 10 minutes of a long intro and a lady selling her book saying "um like" every other two words...

        I have no info to share.

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    • Kualdir@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s an hour long video without a timestamp bro ;-;

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  • Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Who… who are the corpos paying to?

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    • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Like $0.001 to some random artists, it seems.

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  • Doom@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I just run it on the TV through my Xbox for the cats

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    • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do your cats have any favorite? I've noticed whenever i play alice in chains or type o negative my cat sits next to me.

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      • Doom@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They never seem to care but I listen to pretty chill stuff, Mitski, Courtney Barnett, Lucy Dacus. They probably just fall asleep

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  • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    RIAA assholes paying more to Spotify and some of that going to the artists isn’t the radical act of rebellion it’s painted to be, but still acceptable.

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  • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I really thought it said “nutting” instead of “muting”. I was so confused and the photo of Hank Hill did not help with that confusion.

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  • sommerset@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just install YouTube music from revanced. No ads

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  • ScienceGuy722@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Delightfully devilish, Seymour!

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