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What games are just objective master pieces?
Submitted 4 days ago by weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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Subject106@jlai.lu 1 day ago
I’d say :
The first Deus Ex and its first prequel Human Revolution Mafia I Max Payne 1 and 3 GTA III Doom 1/2 Doom 3 Duke Nukem 3D Morrowind Skyrim (modded and fixed, vanilla is pure garbage) Blood Omen 1 Silent Hill 1 and 2 Resident Evil 1 and 4 (and their remakes)
Skkorm@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Hollow Knight is peak
owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
Undertale
LordGimp@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Chromehounds was the greatest mech game on shitbox 360 and you can’t change my mind.
The sheer variety in player created metas was glorious to behold. Sure, you could play how the game encouraged you to play and hang your weapons in “normal” configurations. But you could also bury whole teams in indirect fire with a triple double from across the map. You could build a little punchy boi buggy with a dick piston, cockpit, wheels, and nothing else. You could even try to sweat the meta in the chicken leg howitzer or the turtle up in the armored crab.
The only limits were creativity and spacer availability lmfaooo
MintyAnt@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It’s pretty wack that we haven’t since had a game that captures many of the better elements of Chrome hounds.
Jyrdano@lemmy.world 3 days ago
There hasnt been yet a game that could replicate the experience I ld had when I played Planescape: Torment
Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Was it the game, or was it the life you had while playing the game?
Agrivar@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The game itself, for me. I played it through a few times when it first came out, and then very recently I got it on Steam and played again for the first time since. Still as poignant.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Prey, System Shock 2, Outer Wilds, and Undertale are fully-realized microcosms where the primary game is unfolding the complex origami of the setting. All of them absolutely beautiful to experience.
idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Do you think Return of the Obra Dinn would belong alongside these or is that game too flawed by comparison?
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Haven’t actually played these two but from what I gather, they definitely fit the list!
kinther@lemmy.world 2 days ago
SOMA was great
jacksilver@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I feel like Soma was a decent metaphysical question wrapped in a okayish walking simulator.
It got a lot of praise, but basically boils down to the question “what makes you you” with nothing else about it standing out.
If the gameplay isn’t a driving factor of making the game objectively good, then I don’t think it counts.
MintyAnt@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The lack of gameplay is fine, and very much important to call out for any new players. There’s a whole genre of “you’re playing a movie” that SOMA fits nicely into
kinther@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Personally I think story can make a game stand out far more than graphics or gameplay. I also disagree that the game boiled down to one question. While it was the primary focus of the narrative, the underwater laboratories and world building/history was amazing.
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 day ago
I’ve been craving another experience like SOMA but unfortunately nothing even comes close. It was probably the coolest and most disturbing story I’ve ever seen. Finishing that game gave me an existential crisis for like 2 days after. It was that good.
Kattiydid@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
Zelda Breath of the wild for me. Don’t get me wrong I enjoyed Tears of the Kingdom but breath of the wild scratched a perfect itch for me. Especially master mode. Well over 1000 hours played.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I also maintain that Breath of the Wild was superior to Tears of the Kingdom. Apparently this opinion makes Zelda fans incredibly salty.
Kattiydid@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
It’s the vibe. TotK just… Feels more industrial, and less clean and hopeful. BotW was just so pretty and you HAD to walk to places or glide the first time. The machines in TotK made it so easy to skip the nature that it felt less rewarding to play. Like, if you could just snap your fingers and have the perfect house immediately with no work, no effort, the house wouldn’t feel as rewarding as one you built with your own skill.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Nethack
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
check out Caves of Qud if you’re into NetHack
BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Indeed!
technopagan@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
“Abzû”. That’s a hill I’m willing to die on. Got to me even more than Journey or Jusant.
Also, thought very differently, **“Senua Hellblade” **because it perfectly displayed a condition that I could never fit into words.
LeDoudou@jlai.lu 2 days ago
How come no one has mentioned “Life is strange” yet? Also, “A plague tale”.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The intro to a plague tale… Jesus.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I don’t see Goldeneye on your list.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Is disco Elysium the one with all the talking? Like multiple books worth of text? No thanks
Coelacanth@feddit.nu 3 days ago
Disco Elysium is definitely closer to the visual novel spectrum of video games than it is to something like Tetris. But make no mistakes, its narrative and impact would be much lessened were it delivered in any other medium. It is absolutely a perfect example of how you use video games to make art.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 3 days ago
My biggest issue is I game late at night when everyone else is in bed, so a game like that would knock me out
Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 days ago
How do you even begin to care about anything in that game when you are basically mashing buttons for hours and just listening to people complain about how shit life is?
I get its an art piece of living the existence you are thrown into but it feels like a confusing mess even gameplay wise for the starting hours that people that have finished it I feel miss how unfun it is at first.
I didn’t even know why I was now stuck on the other side of a wall in a union dispute and I just couldn’t be bothered to restart the game to try something else after how long it took to get dressed the first time.
Phunter@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Sekiro
Few games have such tight game design, story, lore, and characters blended so well into a single experience.
I don’t think I even want or need a sequel.
msage@programming.dev 3 days ago
I tried playing it, but the combat… the combat, man, I can play many games, finished Elden Ring, played ton of CS1.6, Dota 2, Terraria Infernum… but Sekiro I could not finish.
I’ve heard it’s a rhytmic game, but I suck at those, too.
toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Super Metroid is still the first that comes to mind. Amazing experience from start to finish.
Zahille7@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Half-Life 2, both Psychonauts games, the Arkham series
PushButton@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Antichamber
and maybe Portal
CatZoomies@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I didn’t see these listed so I’m dropping three objective masterpieces here:
- Persona 5 Royal
- Golden Sun
- Golden Sun: The Lost Age
Grimtuck@lemmy.world 3 days ago
For be it’s still System Shock 2
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Have you played Prey? Only other game to scratch that same itch for me.
ICastFist@programming.dev 2 days ago
Prey 2017 or Prey 2006?
InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Bloodborne Bioshock Hollow Knight
Zetta@mander.xyz 2 days ago
Team Fortress 2
The best teamshooter game to date, endless copy cats that suck ass.
weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 2 days ago
And the character trailers are hilarious.
“That thing … It scares me,” Pyro shooting bubbles and lollypops in his mind actually causing pure death and destruction
MintyAnt@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It does have a couple sore points. The whole aimbots running rampant was awful. And it was one of the first major games to introduce and popularize micro transactions.
Zetta@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Both true points, however Its still my favorite game of all time. To be fair I am a fanboy, my steam year in review last year was 99% TF2. I don’t really play any other games besides tf2 still.
charonn0@startrek.website 4 days ago
Left4Dead2 (also L4D1)
hank_the_tank66@lemmy.world 3 days ago
EXCEPT…for when your computer teammate jumps in front of you while you’re shooting and accosts you for it, then a second later they literally mow down a bunch of infected by shooting through you with no consequences.
So I have to knock it down to a 9.9/10
ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Sid Meier’s Pirates.
Either version.
breecher@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I was going to say Sid Meier’s Civilization, but both of them qualifies really.
weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The Spyro the dragon trilogy for me is just an absolute masterpiece.
Final Fantasy VII, IX and X are three master pieces
Metroid prime and fusion
Fatal Frame trilogy on the PlayStation 2, Forbidden Siren, Silent Hill 2, Resident Evil 2 are amongst the best of the best
Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 days ago
I do think the Spyro games are probably the absolute best of the collect-a-thon genre. Joyful and fun and with fun puzzles. I am worried I am too biased to say it though since I have 120%/100%/117% beat the games multiple multiple multiple times.
weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Hey, you and me man xD
davidgro@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Super Hexagon
It’s about as simple as a ‘modern’ game can be (I read there was even a port of it to Commodore 64.) but it’s a finely tuned machine. When you lose - and you will, a lot - it feels like mostly your own fault and not the game’s.
The difficulty levels very accurately start at Hard for the easiest one. There are 6 total levels, the next 5 difficulties are Harder, Hardest, Hardester, Hardestest, and Hardestestest.
With much time and luck I can beat the first level (unlocking the 4th). On a lost save I had unlocked the 5th level by completing the 2nd, and have only ever seen the 6th in videos from other people. I would have to beat the 3rd to see it myself, and that’s not happening.
The criteria to beat a level is “last for 60 seconds”.
stormdelay@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
It’s really good, I played it again recently after not touching it for maybe 10 years, and finally beat the last difficulty in an attempt to prove to myself I’m still not old
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 days ago
FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Super. Hexagon.
It’s hard to explain the relief I felt upon beating the last level. I can fairly easily survive for 300s in the first one, but I’ve never gotten close to beating the last one again.
There’s also a “spiritual successor” called Open Hexagon that’s extendable by the community if you want more, though I haven’t played it myself.
davidgro@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’ll have to try that vsync thing when I get a new PC (laptop)
AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 days ago
• Sonic the Hedgehog ( Genesis/Mega Drive )
• Chuzzle Deluxe
• Borderlands
• Baba Is You
Krudler@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Squarez Deluxe
Originally a paid DOS game and the developer is a cool dude who changed it to freeware. You can download it on myabandonware or archive. Then grab a free copy of DOSBox.
In my view, it is the best shape packing game ever made, and it never really got its due, possibly in part to somewhat extra complexity, and partly from the time it came out.
You learn the ropes in the early modes, but you really need to play on EXTREME Mode. There are many different special pieces, and you decide how to move them in the playfield and rotate them.
There are mud traps and acid pits and missiles and bombs and traps. And you have to not only play the shape packing aspect, but you have to continually think about how to deploy these hazards, to your best advantage, or least disadvantage!
Over the years, I continually come back to this game, and I have probably sunk over a thousand hours since I was young.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’d say games that have set the standard for their genre, and have not been surpassed, would be the only ones that count.