What was her problem? She was badly-written.
Anon can't go on a field trip
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moopet@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
neatchee@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
In all seriousness, this is what happens when you write novels without doing any world-building and just put down whatever seems “fun”. The are sooooo many things in that series that make no sense once they are superceded by later plot devices. Rowling didn’t think any of it through ahead of time and have almost no thought to internal consistency with previous comment when she wrote new things.
It’s honestly a terrible series in most regards and it’s kind of disappointing how popular it became.
Also she a trans-hating bigot. Fuck J.K. Rowling. Can’t forget that part whenever discussing her or her work.
monotremata@lemmy.ca 38 minutes ago
Yeah. There’s a fan-fic I read recently (also the only HP fan fic I’ve read) called “Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality,” which is set in an alternate universe in which Harry is raised by perfectly pleasant folks with an understanding of the scientific method, and arrives in the wizarding world and immediately starts deconstructing all the bizarre nonsense going on there. It’s very well done, but it’s really hard to recommend precisely because it does refer back to a ton of the stuff that’s developed in the books, so I had to keep looking up stuff I didn’t recall, and I don’t really want to devote brain space to that stuff. (Some of the “rationality” stuff has aged a little bit poorly through the replication crisis, too, though I’m a bit more forgiving of that since it talks so much about updating your beliefs.)
But for anyone who did read the books back when and was frustrated at times by the characters behaving so irrationally, it’s kinda cathartic in that way. For those who are interested: github.com/rrthomas/hpmor
tyler@programming.dev 13 hours ago
Rule of cool supersedes making sense. Yeah there’s a ton of nonsense, but you called it yourself, it’s fun. That’s all that matters.
neatchee@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
The issue I have with this line of reasoning is that there are equally whimsical, better written series that just didn’t have good fortune to pop off the way HP did.
It’s marketing. And cover art. And simple timing of fads. It sucks. And it funded a horrible person through pure happenstance
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 6 hours ago
Fun and atmospheric. Kids love it and that’s ok.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 13 hours ago
More than fun. It’s whimsical.
She’s a terrible person. I read the books to my kids but they are puarated so she doesn’t get a penny. Same for the movies.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
All true, though i still found it fun to read when the books came out. At that age my critical thinking skills were not as developed yet, and since that age group is the intended target audience the popularity is not that surprising.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 11 hours ago
Yes, I liked it too but I’m not under the false impression that’s it’s a genius work. It’s a kids book that kids like and many adults enjoy too.
She’s a hateful awful person. Many people are.
neatchee@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I mean, I totally get it. There is just better stuff out there and it sucks that she got lucky when otherr, better authors don’t
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
My theory, the first three/four books were written well enough, but the movies carried the rest of the series. She came really close to game of thronesing it too, but apparently average fans didnt mind the dieing baby voldemort in an all white train station ending.
Books 5-7 were awful in my opinion. I hated Harry through the entire last book, which I can’t imagine is intentional.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 9 hours ago
Book four was great. It was downhill from there as she couldn’t maintain the level. She also couldn’t keep it consistent. However, people were co paring it to literature. It’s kids books.
EtherWhack@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Way back, years ago, and if memory serves…
There was short story about Harry Potter in a Disney Adventures magazine one month and I think that was supposed to be all there was as far as the story. The popularity of it may have had JKR rushing to build a more in depth story and throwing anything in it that seemed whimsical and fun to a kid, regardless if it made sense.
MTK@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
This implies that the students are insured in some way and that the legal system of the wizard world recognizes the same legal guardians of the muggle world AND that wizardy insurance companies are okay with students learning dangerous spells that can result in serious injury without guardian’s explicit permission, but does not approve of field trips to safe villages without explicit permission. Or that the crazy, racist, homophobic and transphobic J. k is also dumb.
someguy3@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
She didn’t want to undermine parental rights for, you know, reasons.
Ardycake@lemm.ee 13 hours ago
Im pretty sure its because they were trying to keep him on campus to keep him safe and used that as a bs excuse and he didn’t realize it until later cause he’s a kid. Idgaf about Harry Potter, haven’t picked up a book in 20 years, but I remember this.
rojo@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Spot on. Sirius Black escaped an inescapable prison for the sole purpose, it was widely believed, of murdering Harry. The permission slip was just a convenient excuse to keep Harry protected.
RE: idgaf, you’re allowed, you know. You can love the art but dislike the artist. Or like the artist if you wish. I’m personally indifferent to Rowling but consider the Harry Potter series to be clever and highly entertaining. I find it much more engaging than The Silmarillion.
Also, people are too eager to cast judgement on each other, and too often forget that people have layers, like onions. Or a parfait. My dad was a Fox News, AM talk radio, Facebook propaganda cult follower whose politics were buggered beyond repair. He occasionally spouted racist or bigoted or otherwise insensitive bullshit. He was also a model father and husband, selfless, generous, kind, soft spoken, and loved by everyone who had ever met him. To know how eager much of the world would be to cancel him for his political beliefs breaks my heart, and I’m grateful he was horrible with technology, well-shielded from the summary judgement of social justice warriors.
baines@lemmy.cafe 2 hours ago
if my parfait or onion has a shit flavored layer in it, I’m throwing the whole thing into the trash
especially if that parfait then uses it’s vast wealth to make more of the world shit flavored
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
I find it much more engaging than The Silmarillion.
That is understandable. Silmarillion is like a collection of extended footnotes and a cosmology rulebook.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 13 hours ago
Yes, as there was a killer on the loose, suspected to be super crazy and in the area. In which case, would it be safe for the other kids?
It’s not logical whichever way you look at it.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
It’s because they thought Black was going for retribution on Harry so they probably figured that he was largely laser focused on him. Though he did blow up a bunch of folks sin their eyes so that logic doesnt really hold water.
TLDR: Rowling dumb and doesn’t even think things through within the same book.
UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I did wonder why they needed permission from the people forced to let him go in the first place
Illbeinthekapuasuite@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
His legal guardians do not consent to him even attending the school in the first place, to the extent where he needs to be broken out to attend every year. But no field trip.
ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
looks like the magic world’s lawyers were just as bad as their muggle counterparts, tbh.
way worse, in fact, when one reads about all the wizengamot proceedings.
HellieSkellie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
The doom is not doomed.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Awesome guitar riff starts in the background
SunshineJogger@feddit.org 13 hours ago
The plot demanded a reason for him to stay behind.
akademy@lemm.ee 2 hours ago
Nearly. The story meant it made sense for him to remain safely at school. The plot had to take that in to consideration.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 9 hours ago
You and your reasonable explanations! We came here to be mad about the author!
M137@lemmy.world 2 minutes ago
“the ones I spied for weeks”
Words hard, apparently.