Hello. I wasn’t sure where to post about this and a friend directed me here.
There is a person who has an account on Lemmy, who has a 5 year long history of malicious trolling, catfishing, creepy comments they made to someone they knew was only 14, and telling a trans person to kill themselves after shooting up a school then gaslighting people on Lemmy about it. Their actions are such that multiple people are chronicling the various reprehensible things they’ve said and done and continue to do.
*Their modus operandi is this:
- They’ll do/say reprehensible things.
- They will call evidence of those things “slander” or say “you’re taking it out of context” “you cannot speak for my intentions” or use plausible deniability.
- They paint themselves as a targeted victim, hoping people take their word for it and don’t look into the links that got posted.
In the description of that video, there are a ton of links to things the troll has posted, on their own accounts, such as when they trolled on AskLemmy on Lemmy.world by saying Elon Musk’s Nazi salute “has been debunked though” and proceeded to gaslight commenters in the comments, then locking their own thread. They are highly manipulative and try to paint themselves as a victim who is being targeted for no reason by calling the evidence in the links “slander” and saying “you can’t speak for other people’s intentions”.
They like to portray themselves as an innocent person who is “being targeted for no reason” hoping that mods and admins who are unaware of their history take their word for it without looking into things. They will claim they’re being doxed because their alias, which the troll publicly posts everywhere, was mentioned in posts exposing them.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Well. I raised this exact question months ago as a hypothetical. I was trying to learn how lemmy works, and despite my arguements that this is a stupid recoarse, here is what I was told.
Alright lemmy users who aren’t part of THIS thread, but I still remember from 8 months ago…this is your time to shine! Go make new communities and show us all how your ways are realistic in real world scenarios…and not just, ya know, group jerking the group about unrealistic concepts and thus not a real solution.
And again, to op and others in this thread, I want to remind you that I’m not being snarky to you. I’m being snarky to those people 8 months ago who argued this exact scenario.
They claimed the solution is to make AskLemmy2, everybody leave AskLemmy, and now the troll is a mod of a dead community. So yeah, I’m going to be snarky. I knew that was a stupid response to this situation.
So yeah. I’m full of warrented snark tonight.
seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 1 week ago
I mean; It does work that way. See the 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone drama. People didn’t like what the mods wanted to do, so they started their own (onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone) and it currently has more than twice the number of active users.
So it does work when most of the people give a shit. Problem is, most people don’t.
Typhoonigator@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Why do your links try to open an email app? Is the problem with your links, or with my Voyager?
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Also !196@lemmy.world
j4k3@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I find that stupidity infuriating. It postulates that communities are owned by moderators and not the community and users. That is authoritarian narcissistic garbage. No one looks at or cares who the moderators are when they post anything anywhere, EVER! NEVER EVER EVER!!!
That is how these places fail to grow most people encountering this stupidity just leave. Mods serve communities just like admin. The altruism of hosting is not some neo feudal ownership of users. I’m grateful for the time and efforts spent and willing to contribute myself in the ways I can to that democracy, but anyone that acts like that means they own me can shove a whole data center and the parking lot up their root directory. Communities have momentum and belong to the users only. ANY mods that do not put users first should be purged immediately. Mods are disposable. As a mod, I am disposable. I do not matter. I am the janitor. Any mod that can not say this should be purged immediately. Anyone with any hint of narcissism is toxic to the community in every instance. Every mod and admin action is harmful and should only ever be applied to those that are causing greater harm like bigots. There should be extreme prejudice by admin at mods that are active and taking actions that were not flagged by members of the broader community. I’ll volunteer as a mod of any of the larger communities if that is what is needed. I trust users to make flags and there are very few actual actions needed here in any community.
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
Agreed. Hopefully the !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone migration gave us hope
Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
Yup. I wish that it was possible to make it clear to moderators just how little of a fuck the average user gives about them. Because they generally seem to have delusions of grandeur and think of themselves as the most important people around. Which is fucking bullshit because without the users that they dismiss and treat like dirt, they wouldn’t have a platform where they get to inflate their egos in the first place.
I actually made a post about this elsewhere but I’m gonna mention it here too. The reason the API thing on Reddit didn’t cause every user to come here is because the moderators there made it all about themselves. To the average user, the whole ‘protest’ looked a lot like the people who treat users unfairly whining and crying about the admins treating them unfairly. And I can tell you, there was little to no sympathy for them. All they did was cry about their modding tools while locking entire communities that thousands or hundreds of thousands of people make use of. And they pissed everyone off.
I know that personally a big reason the API thing didn’t do much for me in my decision to leave Reddit (or not) was because the same people that forced me into using services like reveddit because they like to silently remove people’s comments without notification, were suddenly asking me for solidarity and to feel sorry for them.
hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 1 week ago
the simple fact is that very few people volunteer to moderate online spaces without some incentive, i.e. power over others. the point of this structure is to encourage people to create and moderate communities, because if they can be voted out via mob rule (or even better, hostile takeover), then there’s little reason to invest time and energy into building a group.
shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 week ago
It would be good, then, that I don’t fit most definitions of a troll, as far as I’m aware. What you are looking at is, as I can attest (as well as prove), a mixture of falsehoods, things taken out of context, things exaggerated to seem wrong, dead issues, and unconsented releases of personal information, all by one of any number of individuals who, if you look me up, has been happening everywhere, in obvious slander campaign fashion. They redirect to some of that, though they rejoice in the fact most people do not pick issues apart and give a true critique, instead looking at one person’s warnings and garnering a general idea. This isn’t some dismissal, it has been implied by those who realize their mistake.
shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 week ago
It would be good, then, that I don’t fit most definitions of a troll, as far as I’m aware. What you are looking at is, as I can attest (as well as prove), a mixture of falsehoods, things taken out of context, things exaggerated to seem wrong, dead issues, and unconsented releases of personal information, all by one of any number of individuals who, if you look me up, has been happening everywhere, in obvious slander campaign fashion. They redirect to some of that, though they rejoice in the fact most people do not pick issues apart and give a true critique, instead looking at one person’s warnings and garnering a general idea. This isn’t some dismissal, it has been implied by those who realize their mistake.
Joeyowlhouse@lemmy.wtf 1 week ago
You recently trolled about how Elon Musk’s Nazi salute “has been debunked though” and when people proved you wrong, you proceeded to troll about how “you can’t speak for other people’s intentions” before locking the thread.
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A portion of your blog post supposedly debunking everything is just spent waffling about Elon Musk.
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