Stupid people always existed. The difference is now they have TikTok and twitter, so we can see their stupidity more.
There was a time when everyone had common sense
Submitted 3 days ago by Mickey7@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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NONE_dc@lemmy.world 3 days ago
scytale@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Isn’t this more of making sure to cover all bases in case someone gets an idea of doing something dumb so they can sue? Especially in the US because it’s the most litigious country in the world.
shalafi@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Litigation isn’t what you think. A local lawyer had a radio program where he explained our “sue happy” culture.
You only hear about crazy shit, because it’s crazy shit. How many people suicided on New Year’s Eve? Bet you can name at least one! Because blowing yourself up up in a Cybertruck, on New Year’s, in front of Trump Towers is crazy. Apply this to everything you see and read in the media.
Judges do not have to hear every bullshit case, plenty gets tossed. Most lawsuits have merit and are boring as paste.
Also, lawyers won’t take your stupid case to court. They’re happy to charge for time and advice, but they will not bring legal scat before a judge.
For one, they know these judges, have to work with them for years. Want to piss those judges off with frivolous bullshit? Retain a lawyer and go to court. He’ll tell you how to act before that particular judge.
For two, lawyers want to win, low risk tolerance. Think they’re taking every dumb case to court just for a paycheck? No, they have a reputation to think about. Who’s hiring a lawyer that loses all the time or has a rep for taking losing cases?
tl;dr: Neither judges nor lawyers are stupid and frivolous lawsuits are rare.
Oyml77@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Only hearing about the crazy shit is the same reason Florida seems so crazy. “Sunshine Laws” in Florida mean arrest records are public information in Florida. A cottage industry has sprung up around scouring arrest records for ludicrous arrests or weird things that happened around them. It’s not that Florida is any more crazy than the rest of the country. We just hang our dirty laundry in the front lawn for everyone to see. Don’t believe that crazy ass shit isn’t happening in your neck of the woods, too.
That said, Florida is kind of crazy, though. At least some of it is imported crazy from other areas, though.
riskable@programming.dev 3 days ago
The problem isn’t the lawsuits it’s the cost. Litigating anything is prohibitively expensive. Nobody but the rich and business can afford that so what you end up with is some huge percentage of cases being settled out of court without anyone (other than the parties involved) knowing about it.
It’s a big reason why settlement figures and jury damage awards are rising… You have to pay for the lawyers!
…which is interesting because lawyer pay is actually dropping and has been for some time now. The biggest firms are collecting all the money and most of that is flowing to the top. So most lawyers are in the same boat as the rest of us where wages aren’t keeping pace with inflation so they’re getting poorer and poorer every year.
That’s happening despite the fact that litigation costs are rising. Something is severely broken in regards to the economics of our criminal and civil justice system.
SARGE@startrek.website 3 days ago
Any time my father brings up stuff like this, I remind him that he and his brothers drove their car onto a frozen lake and almost broke through the ice, and more than once they bought tennis balls, soaked them in gasoline, and threw them at each other with welding gloves.
I know for a fact that he and his brothers did tons of dumb shit, and I won’t let him forget it even if he finds it convenient when comparing generations.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’d ask how many people of his generations drank the battery acid that they had to make a warning about it.
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The problem are the shitty modern cars that are partly hard to repair so you have to pay for parts and service, partly because they want to sell you bs “features”, while they also break constantly, because they are made to be as cheap as possible. Brought to you by the generation that now makes fun about people stuck in the system they helped to create
laserm@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Generation war is nonsense.
d00ery@lemmy.world 3 days ago
many engines do not require this procedure. It depends on whether the engine is equipped with hydro-compensators: these are devices designed for automatic adjustment of the thermal gap. They work at the expense of the oil entering them from the engine (that is why, actually, and are called “hydro-compensators”) and completely exclude the necessity of periodic manual adjustment of valves.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 days ago
I’ve never met an engine that doesn’t need valve adjustments, even with hydraulic lifters.
Now the adjustment period is far longer today, like in the 100k miles range.
Just be glad you rarely see shim/bucket adjustment these days. Boy was that a bitch.
TwentySeven@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The engines I’ve seen with hydraulic lifters do not have anything to adjust.
Unless you’re talking about cleaning out the oil ports when they start to stick, but I wouldn’t call that an adjustment.
Could you give an example? I’m curious
(Not a professional, just interested in cars)
Pippipartner@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
I never met an engine.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 days ago
I don’t think any generation is “smarter” than the last at any given age.
I think each generation is less “ignorant” because they are more “informed” by the learnings and failures of the generations before.
I also think people stop adapting as they age, and intellect declines medically, leading to the impression that the younger are “smarter”.
riskable@programming.dev 3 days ago
I think each generation is less “ignorant” because they are more “informed” by the learnings and failures of the generations before.
One has only to point a finger at the previous generation to figure out who is responsible for, “kids these days.”
Mickey7@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I don’t think any generation is “smarter” than the last at any given age.
I think the latest generation is smarter in some technological aspects because they learn them in school. Older generations didn’t have that opportunity because those technologies didn’t exist then. When I have a technical question related to things like Iphones I always ask the youngest person that I know.
One advantage of older generations is that they actually lived during historic events while the young can only read an author’s interepretation of those events
shalafi@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The generation that fought fascism in the West is almost completely dead. And so, here we go again.
gencha@lemm.ee 3 days ago
So electric cars don’t have valves. Oh, you didn’t even think that far ahead with your boomer brain? Try to figure out why they put the warning in the manual. With all that leaded gasoline fogging up the brains, it’s fair to assume grandpa drank from a battery on a dare.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Ouch, the edge!!
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
honestly, im at a point where i’ve become anti-humanist.
The political satire is strong this year, and it shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon.
Perhaps the world will crash and burn, who knows, exciting times we live in!
kreskin@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Ive been voting giant meteor for a while now and it has not showed up.
sirico@feddit.uk 3 days ago
Older vehicles easier to work on, go out of spec more often.
obre@lemmy.world 3 days ago
OK Tucker
Shou@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Common sense is limited by the population size that shares the same way of thinking.
What’s common sense to one group, isn’t to the other. Common sense is people specific, not global.
nomous@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That’s an interesting observation I’d never thought about before. You’re right, “common” just refers to the common culture around you. The common sense approach to something in Germany might be entirely different than common sense solution in Japan.
Shou@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Like taking off your shoes before entering someone’s home. Why bring street dirt into a living space? Common sense in many asian countries, non-existant sense in the netherlands.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 days ago
Maybe the previous generation of manual writers didn’t have the common sense to realize that a certain subset of people out there are stupid enough to drink the battery juice if you don’t warn them not to.
rubicon@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
The label isn’t there to prevent people from drinking battery juice. The same people who would drink it would never read a manual, let alone the warnings in it.
It’s only there to limit liability.
droporain@lemmynsfw.com 3 days ago
Please do society a favor and remove the warning labels.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 days ago
I see this sentiment a lot, but honestly I think it would actually do the reverse of what people suggest. “Common sense” isnt really some inherit knowledge that everyone not stupid knows, its actually just stuff that we expect everyone to have learned at some point, presumably in fairly early childhood. But learning stuff requires being taught, and its easy enough for something to just have never come up for someone when they were a kid, because there are so many things to know. Having an explicit warning somewhere is both another source of information in case someone just never got the memo and a prompt for someone unfamiliar with the danger, be it a kid or some ignorant adult, to potentially ask someone why that thing is dangerous. Obviously this is a bit of an extreme example since drinking unknown things is a foolish thing to do in general, but it makes more sense to just apply the labels when in doubt than spend effort making a judgement for every dangerous thing and potentially missing something. I’d bet that having warning labels on stuff actually slightly increases the amount of common sense in society.
Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Before Reagan
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 days ago
This is the best way I can put it.
Before Reagan was elected, middle class was defined as one income supporting a family of four. In those days $1 million was still considered a vast fortune. By the time Bush Sr. was voted out, middle class had been redefined as two incomes to run the house, and $1 million was what a rich guy paid for a party.
Mac@mander.xyz 3 days ago
OK boomer
wiccan2@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That’s because in the last 50 years someone somewhere was stupid enough to drink the battery. You can’t blame that on the latest generation.
superkret@feddit.org 3 days ago
50 years ago was 1985.
Feeling old yet?groknull@programming.dev 3 days ago
/remindme in ten years
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 days ago
We’ve actually been misunderstanding the phrase this whole time. It’s not “common sense” and referring to things everyone should know; it’s actually “common cents” and is about those take-a-penny-leave-a-penny things. 😌
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Okay, Dad.
BearGun@ttrpg.network 3 days ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_sense
The origin of the term “common sense” is in the works of Aristotle.
Right, I’m sure Aristotle knew a lot about take-a-penny-leave-a-penny and cents… Unless you’re just memeing, in which case ignore me
nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
father i cannot click the book
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Ok, lead boy.
21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 3 days ago
And for what it’s worth those are the people you know have to argue with over whether or not drinking the contents of the battery is a good thing just because the manual told you not to.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
And who decided to change the manual to include warnings to not drink the battery?
It sure as hell wasn’t my generation.
Mickey7@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Some one made the KEY comment about lawsuits. Today people sue over anything. Like you are so stupid you spill hot coffee on yourself. (coffee is hot) and then blame the people that you bought the coffee from. In earlier days simple logic was accepted and dumb people wouldn’t be able to find ambulance chasers to file lawsuits for them. Today “instructions” to guide the dumber people are actually to prevent lawsuits.
Pippipartner@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
The story with the hot coffee is a capitalist trope. Serving 88°C coffee to someone who than suffers third degree burns (prognosis: Scarring, contractures, amputation (early excision recommended)) due to a spill is a valid law suit. …wikipedia.org/…/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurant…
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Ok boomer
Otakulad@lemmy.world 3 days ago
As someone else pointed out, it was a justified lawsuit. Additionally, they were told the coffee was too hot and should lower the temperature and they refused.
The woman had to sue, and only asked for her medical bills to be paid, around $18k. Again, McDonald’s refused. They then hired people to act like this was an attack, when they knew they were wrong.
It was the jury who decided that $2 million was what the woman was owed. Also, I heard that was 2 days of hamburger sales. The fact McDonald’s is still around makes me think they recovered.
Turret3857@infosec.pub 3 days ago
The lawsuits are not about being stupid, theyre about money. Lawyers won that lawsuit, and they didn’t do it by being stupid.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Arrogantly calling out the intelligence claims of others works better if you know when and how to use punctuation.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
There are, many different kinds…of intelligence
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That seems like an even better reason not to call out the intelligence claims of others.