What positive things do you expect from Trumps upcoming four years?

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Submitted ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Boomkop3@reddthat.com⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

Maybe this question seems stupid, so be it. But I’ve seen mostly bad news, and I struggle to get away from it.

I want to know this: What do you think is going to be good and or great in the upcoming four years of us politics?

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prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
There’s a good chance he dies.

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- edgemaster72@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I think that’s actually a worse scenario. Trump, while evil, doesn’t really have the focus or energy to fully enact the entire range of bullshit he could/people say he will. If Vance takes over, his billionaire puppeteers are in full control and he’ll enthusiastically continue on with Project 2025. If there’s an election in 2028, he gets to run with the advantages of being the incumbent President instead of a VP taking over from his predecessor.
  
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- dhork@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I call that “God’s ultimate veto”
  
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- joyjoy@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  But then we get a couch fucker as president.
  
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- Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I’m hoping he does before the inauguration.
  
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  - ExtraMedicated@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    My money’s on choking to death on a burger while sitting on a toilet and jerking it to a picture of his daughter.
    
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  - IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Great, President Vance is cuming for your couches.
    
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- Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I don’t think someone else’s death is ever a good thing to hope for
  
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  - TheRealKuni@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    I don’t think someone else’s death is ever a good thing to hope for
    
    I strongly disagree. There are many times where someone else’s death is something to hope for. I think if you try you can think of a few relatively easily.
    
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  - Burninator05@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Normally if agree but I’m willing to make exceptions.
    
    The only problem is that then Vance gets to step up and while Trump is willing to use Project 2025 to get what he wants, Vance is one of the authors.
    
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pedz@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The slow death of the American empire. It may push the rest of the world to a geopolitical realignment that excludes the US. This could allow international organizations to proceed without having the US veto human rights, actions against climate change, or things like that.

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- SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  You say that like it hasn’t been in decline since 2000 or so lol
  
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- dhork@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  We will know that is happening if there is ever a real movement to abolish the UN Security Council, or at least the permanent seats that have veto power. Until then, the US will always have that power.
  
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  - stringere@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    The last 10 years provide excellent reasoning for the removal of the US, Russia, and Israel from any council where they have veto power. Especially given that veto power is often used to allow atrocities to continue.
    
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- Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  That’s kinda sad. But given things like food and other basic human needs not being recognized by one one country in the un, you might just be right.
  
  Thank you for the insight tho!
  
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Mighty@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Well there’s hope that it incentivices the American people to revolt or revolution. So…yay?

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- FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  This is what we want. This is who we are as a nation. There will be no revolution.
  
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- WoahWoah@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Yeah totally. The mass of white liberals is going to suddenly revolt and start a revolution lol.
  
  They’re going to do what they always do: put their head down and rationalize the oppression of the poor, racial minorities, and women. That, at least, has will stay consistent.
  
  “I DID my part! I took ten minutes out of my day to vote! What else could you possibly expect of me??”
  
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- dan1101@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Yeah just like we hoped Russian citizens would. Probably not going to happen.
  
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- Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Perhaps? Let’s hope it stays peaceful tho
  
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  - hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    No tyrant has ever been defeated by asking nicely.
    
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AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
For people who have 401Ks or other investments, the likely deregulation pushes up stock prices (which is why the stock market had a big bump this week). Oh, sure, those regulations help protect the environment, workers rights, worker health and safety, etc., but: image

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- notfromhere@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  You know he hasn’t taken office yet, right?
  
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  - AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Why without you think I didn’t?
    
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ieightpi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I’m not holding my breath but this could be a huge turning point for the Democratic party where they may finally follow in the populism playbook that Bernie started in 2016.

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- MadBabs@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  My pet theory is that this is our opportunity to decimate the 2 party system.
  
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  - EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Only a tenth, huh? Well, you do you.
    
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  - Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    That might just make the country more democratic!
    
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- MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  It’s so sad he never got to be president. As a non American he was a favourite of mine.
  
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- Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  From what I’ve seen from Bernie, that would mean the country would get nicer for the less fortunate, right?
  
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dhork@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Maybe I can pump another 10x out of my Crypto portfolio and retire early.

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- Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Good luck! And enjoy it if you can!
  
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pwnicholson@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
There’s a chance that Musk has bought himself enough influence to turn conservatives on climate change. I don’t know if I expect it, exactly, but there’s a chance at a scenario where there is at least some progress there.

Granted Musk will mostly use it to enrich himself, but if he at least stops then from repealing green subsidies and the like, that’s movement in the right direction.

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- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  What?
  
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  - Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    That’s just it … He’s heavily invested in alternative energy…
    
    Tesla makes electric cars, home and industrial battery packs, and rooftop solar. It’s in his interest for Republicans to believe in climate change.
    
    At the very least it’s in his interest for Republicans to not squash electric cars and solar power.
    
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- Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  You are delusional both about Musk and conservatives.
  
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- Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  That is a bit of a conflict of interests between them, I had not thought of that. But perhaps you’re right, that would be good progress!
  
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Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The tariffs might increase US manufacturing as many people won’t want to trade. Maybe.

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- kersploosh@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Or result in US businesses moving their trade dollars from tariff-affectrd countries to others that could really use the money, like Mexico or Central America.
  
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- Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  American made products do tend to have good quality to my knowledge
  
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  - undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Which products? All the ones designed in the US to be manufactured in China?
    
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  - hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    From what I know, most American-made items are manufactured with “prison labor” which is an euphemism for slavery.
    
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  - Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Yes, there are a lot of them still lurking…
    
    Liberty Tabletop, American Blanket Company, American Giant, Craftsman, etc
    
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- Pacattack57@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I have a feeling even if this happens we’ll still see an increase in American goods. That high of tariffs ensures there is no competition and American companies can charge whatever they want.
  
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- delgato@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  We are just repeating history if he indiscriminately puts tariffs on businesses.
  
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foggy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The end of daylight savings.

Fuckhead almost did it.

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- Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Oh heck yes! Normal hours please!
  
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SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
If everything works out okay yay.

If everything goes to shit republicans have nobody to blame because they have a majority everywhere and we can vote them out.

And the democrats got a wakeup call they can learn from (but this is all just a rerun of 2016 so idk if they will)

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- Sergio@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  republicans have nobody to blame
  
  They will always find someone to blame.
  
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  - lando55@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Minorities. Immigrants. Illegals. The poor. The middle class. Big tech. The economy. China. India. They will always find something.
    
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  - db2@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Even if it’s complete and total nonsense.
    
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- dhork@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  That assumes there are no shenanigans with those elections. I believe we will have them. We’ll just have to see how fair they are.
  
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TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The torrent of lies and absurd statements should keep the rest of the world entrained. For most Americans, it’s probably going to be horrifying, tragic and embarrassing.

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- kent_eh@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  should keep the rest of the world entrained.
  
  Sorry, but you guys stopped being fun to watch a while ago.
  
  It’s now gone well beyond train-wreck levels of horrified “can’t look away” viewing.
  
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- Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Sorry I’m not native English. I’m failing to figure out what “entrained” means here?
  
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  - TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    It’s evidence of me swiping too fast and not reading the text three times before sending.
    
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lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Kinda hope people find out after fucking around so much

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- Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  You think this might be a learning experience? For whom?
  
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  - Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Republican voters
    
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Nollij@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
There is a possibility that Elno gets EVs mandated, or at least promoted to a greater extent. Of course this will only be for Tesla, but there would be a ripple effect on other brands.

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- Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  That would be nice, electric drives nice imo
  
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MadBabs@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
My hope is that people really radicalize and realize that it takes others to really thrive and fight in a world/system/government built to neglect. I how people band together more and build stronger communities and practice mutual aid, etc. And that people learn what white supremacy really is…

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
We’re about to see how strong federalism really is. Federalism would either be the last defence against a autocracizing Federal government, or prove to be another joke.

(idk if I even spelled autocracizing correctly, too tired of this bullshit to spell)

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FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I don’t really see him living for another 4 years. I expect his diet, lack of exercise and excess of bike to kill him off; assuming some whackadoodle doesn’t get to him first.

It that I’d really mind; he did spend the last eight spewing violent rhetoric.

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mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Nothing too drastic will occur. It never does. Tariffs will go up. Things will get more expensive. Rich people will be taxed less the middle class and poor people will be taxed more. There will be another wave of systemic racism perpetuating through American society.

Marijuana will become less legal. For some reason the Republicans still have a thing for weed…

The bottom line the man is 80 years old. It’s very possible that he just may step down at some point, which would probably be worse in the long run.

Israel will get significantly more support to wage genocide and Ukraine will get significantly less support to defend their own country. Trump will push for some sort of concession that Ukraine will give up some of their land and enter into some kind of agreement that they won’t request entry into NATO for a long period of time.

Longer prison sentences for relatively minor crimes…

Hardened anti-abortion rhetoric will continue to work against women simply trying to make medical decisions instead of potentially getting abortions.

Basically the same thing that’s happening now in the country. Just more of it.

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bear@lemmynsfw.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Great question. I expect more people will move away from identity politics and embrace one of its many criticisms such as queer politics which is more inclusive of everyone.

Scholars have identified queer politics as the opposite of identity politics, aiming to unite diverse marginalized groups and transcend traditional categories.

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timeisart@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
don’t give a shit about MAGA but I’m all for MAHA with RFK Jr being on Trump’s team, keeping an eye on him to see if he’ll be able to take on the corrupt elements of Big Pharma and the FDA

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Pacattack57@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
There’s a lot of information floating around that SOUNDS good. Who knows what kind of things will happen honestly. At best, millions of people suffer and a portion of the population reaps the benefits. What decides how you’ll be affected is your tax bracket.

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hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
My best guess is that now that people have fucked around, they’ll soon find out. I believe a better world will eventually come into existence, but the transition is going to be slow, painful, and horrible for all of us.

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thisguy1092@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Hilarious. Its gonna be great everything

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