“Moon landing was fake!!!” “You still believe the moon is real?”
Jet Fuel
Submitted 8 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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coffee_whatever@lemmy.world 8 months ago
ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
This was highly effective when I used it in real life.
The conspiracy theorist got real mad demanding I name sources, I kept telling him to find it on the internet with fake search terms.
coffee_whatever@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I would have screamed “do your own research!” before just leaving.
match@pawb.social 8 months ago
congress is full of marxist-leninist-pelosi-ists who intentionally cause inflation to distract us from finding obama’s birth certificate! google “MLP inflation” if yu don’t believe me!
theneverfox@pawb.social 8 months ago
I once got on the topic of the moon lending with a creationist co-worker. He said he wasn’t sure, but that if it happened we should be able to see it from satellite pictures. So I said “yeah you can”, pulled it up, and zoomed in on a landing site. You couldn’t see footprints or anything, but you could see the shadow of the flag next to clearly man-made debris
I showed him exactly what he agreed would be proof in a difficult to fake form, and it just temporarily nudged the needle for him
Now, I fight conspiracies with the opposite conspiracies.
Earth is a 4D hypersphere, the earth isn’t hollow, Agatha is just another part of the surface reached by holes
The elites are hiding all the best vaccines, like the ones that cure cancer
coffee_whatever@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I recently watched “Brief history of the Wrong Earths” by Hardcore Sci-Fi, not many of these are well known so you could have so much more ammunition for fooling around like that with people.
“flat earth? Nah, it’s expanding bro! Oh wait actually it’s 9 hollow earths one in another!”
GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 8 months ago
My best friend has an unnatural talent for this sort of thing and really enjoys toying with conspiracy theory nuts.
When folks start talking about crazy shit, it makes me very anxious and I tend to shut down. Not my buddy. He eggs them on, encourages it, and gets them to say things or agree with things that are even more outlandish than where they conversation started. Things will start at “China invented covid to kill off old people” and somehow end up at “Hillary Clinton paid to have her chromosomes added to the covid vaccines so that DNA evidence can no longer be used against her in the courts”.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 8 months ago
I love this method and employ it at bars. It’s like gonzo conversationalism.
Mike1576218@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Wasn’t that somewhat how Q-anon started?
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
I think that basically is yeah. Then, when they saw that it had gathered a following, admins on a #chan who were pro-Trump and think that they’re super smart because they use Haskell took over to pump up fringe support.
kromem@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I fondly remember reading a comment in /r/conspiracy on a post claiming a geologic seismic weapon brought down the towers.
It just tore into the claims, citing all the reasons this was preposterous bordering on bat shit crazy.
And then said “and your theory doesn’t address the thermite residue” going on to reiterate their wild theory.
Was very much a “don’t name your gods” moment that summed up the sub - a lot of people in agreement that the truth was out there, but bitterly divided as to what it might actually be.
As long as they only focused on generic memes of “do your own research” and “you aren’t being told the truth” they were all on the same page. But as soon as they started naming their own truths, it was every theorist for themselves.
ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
a lot of people in agreement that the truth was out there, but bitterly divided as to what it might actually be.
This has been my take.
They’re not there for the truth. They’re there for validation.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A lot of people are predispositioned to believe that the official story is automatically true.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 8 months ago
It’s ego powered with insecurity jetfuel, still can’t melt steel beams tho.^joke^
match@pawb.social 8 months ago
oh shit, is that the problem with leftism
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I once tried to get a conspiracy theory going that Flat Earth was a fake conspiracy started by the government to cover up the real conspiracy - that the moon is flat. That’s why we only ever see one side of it and why we were able to land on it. It didn’t take lol.
atocci@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I just need people to know that they didn’t fake the moon landing, that really happened. They faked the moon. It didn’t exist prior to the 1960s when it was created by the US government in order to move the goalposts in the space race.
Agent641@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This is bullshit. What we see as the moon is actually the earth, after the reptillians ruined it. Earth is actually a domed space station orbiting the moon-earth.
We didnt go to the moon, we went back to the moon.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 8 months ago
why we were able to land on it.
This is why you fail. Everyone knows the moon landing was fake and directed by Kubrick.
deo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Yes, but you know how Kubrick was. He made them film on location.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I was hoping to sneak that in, get people balling on one conspiracy theory to get in on another one lol
oldfart@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I believe you!
VerdantSporeSeasoning@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Dank memes can’t melt steel beams.
7/11 was a part time job.
barsoap@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Jet fuel indeed doesn’t burn hot enough to melt steel. Forging temperature, OTOH, no issue.
illi@lemm.ee 8 months ago
You don’t understand, steel is either solid or melted. No in-between. No idea what ^ou mean by forging temperature, swords for example are forged by pouring liquid steel to a form, it’s in so many movies!
/s obviously.
BugleFingers@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I know the /s but I also want to introduce you to amorphous solids! (Because I like them so now you get to read this lol) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorphous_solid
Which is essentially a “solid” structure without a proper crystalline structure. This will cause it to move as a liquid at incredibly slow speeds. Such a glass for instance. Extremely old historical glass can be seen to be thicker at the bottom than the top. Not because it was built this way, but because over hundreds of years it has “poured” down.
*This is a simplified explanation and therefore may not acutely accurate for sake of simplicity
TL;DR Some solid stuff is really just super slow liquids. I.E. Glass
sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Yeah let’s ignore the fact that it loses 70% of its strength at like 800 F.
Paradachshund@lemmy.today 8 months ago
When I started reading these comments I didn’t expect them to be full of actual, unironic conspiracy theories. 🤔
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Dinosaurs are a lie created by the wizards to hide the existence of dragons.
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
The wizards hunted dragons to extinction because their wings made good spell components and they want to dodge responsibility for it.
Its ugly, but it’s true.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Memespiracies
Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Jet fuel doesn’t need extra tanks of mind control agent, they’re already using leaded fuel
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I like to just be the crazier one. Flat earth? You still believe in an earth, you silly goose egg.
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I’m part of the no-moon society. Flat earth?! How about the fact that the moon is fake!?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 8 months ago
The sun revolves around the earth just like the moon.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Exactly. What first hand evidence do we personally have that the moon is real?
Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Lies!
Everybody knows that the terrorists on the planes aimed them at the floor containing the Illuminati outpost and it was the fire from the cooling liquid for the supercomputers used to mind control everybody in New York that melted the support steel structure.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
cooling liquid would make cold fires idiot, how would that melt steel?
Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Actually, if you want to take what I said seriously, cooling liquids just have a high termal capacity and decent or high termal conductivity as well as being at the liquid stage at the temperature range its supposed to work in: a cooling liquid by itself it does not cool anything, it just absorbs heat from the environment on one side of the circuit, carries that heat somewhere else and releases it to the environment there and after that it circulates back to absorb some more heat.
There are plenty of combustible fluids which fit the criteria and could be used as liquid coolants. Whether it would be wise to use a combustible liquid (worse, one which would burn at a high enough temperature to melt, or at least to soften, steel) that’s an entirelly different matter altogether.
The idea of a cooling liquid that’s combustible is actually the “it’s absolutelly possible” part of my post and not the “stupid” part.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Every conspiracy theory should have some way to bet on it.
RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Can I be the bank?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
It sounds like you’re conspiring against us, so yes.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
they add fentanyl to your previous vaccines!
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
EleventhHour@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The reason I absolutely believe this to be true? Because I’ve used this on my little brothers since we were kids. I’m 45.
It’s called “reverse psychology.”
Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 months ago
It’s a bizarre and (afaik) unfounded conspiracy theory, but I don’t think this reasoning works as a refutation. It’s still very possible that the experiment got out, and even if not they still needed policies to protect all the people they didn’t want to be affected because the targeting isn’t perfect.
overcast5348@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How are China’s stringent lockdowns explained in this conspiracy theory? Also, where do I sign up as a member?
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Half-done virus got out per accident?
rbits@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Can confirm this is true because the same was true for my mum. She was against the COVID vaccine, but then she started believing that the theories were started by the Chinese government to target people who don’t listen to the authorities.
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
The one child policy has been abolished a good while before covid.
GiveMemes@jlai.lu 8 months ago
That doesn’t change the distribution of demographics by itself. Even assuming the birth rate skyrocketed after the nixing of the one child policy, it takes ~20 years before those people are working age.
bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 8 months ago
The Chinese government has not persecuted Uighurs, tin foil hat person
F04118F@feddit.nl 8 months ago
I understand your desire to defend communism.
But really, how far does an authoritarian regime have to go, while calling itself communist, before you judge them?
What evidence would change your mind about the CCP?
Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
The theory I’d believe more is that the U S of A govt or one of its agencies engineered and released it in China.
China and India are growing economies, with decent populations and a pandemic would seriously delay their growth and help the U S of A keep it’s top place for a bit longer or destroy its competitors.
The US is the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons on civillians, so them using biological weapons on civillians would not be a big moral barrier for them or a big stretch to think about.
They probably didn’t think it’d spread this much and their own citizens n president would be idiotic enough to be against vaccines and masks, even when people were dying.
MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 8 months ago
That’s such a small stretch that it’s actually a confirmed fact that the US has repeatedly used chemical and biological warfare. Korea and Vietnam are merely two easy examples.
Vilian@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
They did a stupid ass job them, killing the older only gonna help China, and it didn’t even killed enough people to make a difference and it backfired in the US, the conspiracy that China was engineering with it and shit escaped make more sense
MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 8 months ago
Citations needed or all citations point to unreliable sources (Adrian Zenz).