As non-native english speaking person that’s highly fascinating.
Know the difference!!!
Submitted 11 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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Senseless@feddit.de 11 months ago
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
I think this is more to do with scientists’ definitions than English in general. See also: what is and isn’t a nut, what is and isn’t a vegetable, is there such thing as a fish.
SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How am I supposed to estimate the pH value of a given wetland area without specialised equipment?
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 11 months ago
- Take a sip. Did you trip balls? Acid.
- Take a red wire, black wire, and a clock. Can you power the clock? Alkaline.
Duh.
Anticorp@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Just call it something online, if people don’t immediately pop out of nowhere to correct you, then you’re probably right.
dogsnest@lemmy.world 11 months ago
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Determine whether it’s a swamp or a marsh.
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Tell someone else you did your part, now it’s their turn.
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brap@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What, you don’t carry pH test strips around as a matter of routine? /s
angrystego@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Learn botany. You can tell the approximate pH from the species of plants growing there.
SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Neat! Didn’t know that.
Mr_Wobble@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Lick it.
General_Effort@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Maybe you can find some red cabbage growing nearby?
DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
So what do you call a wetland that has a neutral pH and mixed vegitation?
scbasteve7@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Just from what I found, swamps are wetlands with woody vegetation being what DOMINATLY inhibits it. So if it’s mixed, find out what there is more of. If it’s 50/50, I guess the universe collapses.
And a wetland with a neutral ph is just called a neutral wetland.
Aux@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Everything is a wetland.
essteeyou@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Help, I’m stuck in a wetland, but I didn’t bring my litmus test!
chellomere@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sorry, I’m looking for you in the bog but you’re not there
buttfarts@lemy.lol 11 months ago
It feels so liberating to hear it just said put loud
SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I never knew the fen/bog part! The onky reason I knew the swamp/marsh part is trying to label things right for OpenStreet mapping
ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I’ve never heard of a Fen before
Grabthar@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s cuz ya basic like one :)
psud@aussie.zone 11 months ago
Fen the wetland type or fen the plural of (sci fi/fantasy) fan? Or had you heard of neither?
ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Sounds like it could be the name of a Hobbit. But no, never heard the word used before. I’m from Georgia and live in Virginia. Never been to a mountain wetland or to middle earth
Chuymatt@beehaw.org 11 months ago
You are not reading enough fantasy books, then.
ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 11 months ago
That’s because the old Something Awful ruined fantasy books back in the early 2000’s when the big series was ASOIAF. Going from GRRM to Sanderson, Hobbs, Abercrombie etc… just doesn’t hit the same. It’s like from crack to whippets.
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
I forgot already before I started writing this comment
Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 11 months ago
do alkaline wetlands just almost never exist, because I’ve never heard the word fen before
livus@mander.xyz 11 months ago
It’s basically a bog with freshwater coming in through the bottom.
There are some in Massachusets, Colorado, Estonia, and this region of the UK called the Fens.
BurnedDonut@ani.social 11 months ago
And me still not giving a Fuck…
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 11 months ago
So, it would be a swampy bog and a marshy fen, but not a boggy swamp or a fenny marsh?
therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
I fucking hate Tumblr users
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Huh, TIL
Armand1@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How does this make you feel:
kameecoding@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Pretty neutral
maculata@aussie.zone 11 months ago
PREACH! MUTHAFUKA!!!
Mr_Wobble@lemmy.world 11 months ago
LOUDER, FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BOG!
Moonworm@hexbear.net 11 months ago
This is one of my pet trivias :) hard to remember the pH for bogs and fens though. It has something to do with rain vs groundwater.
Farvana@lemmygrad.ml 11 months ago
Dale/glen???
blackbrook@mander.xyz 11 months ago
i love when scientists take a swamp of arbitrary language terms and decide to impose some arbitrary specific meanings on them for purposes of their specific discipline and then convince people who don’t really get how language works (i.e. most people) that the definitions are authoritative. it’s fun to watch the cognitive dissonance when this collides with actual usage and people get all angry and righteous.
xpinchx@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thanks crossword puzzles!
These come up pretty often for some reason.
NABDad@lemmy.world 11 months ago
So is the pond in my yard that I created 25 years ago, but then neglected for most of the last 10 years a swamp or a marsh?
There’s not a lot of woody crap growing in it, but there is a tree that sprouted at one end that I’ve been trying to kill.
xeekei@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Further evidence that the Marshbadge and the Soulbadge were accidentally switched.
Anticorp@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I went backpacking through a bog once. It was quite the experience. It felt so foreign, almost like being in a fantasy world. I have pictures from that trip, and 80% of them are in the bog. LOL
the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 11 months ago
I’m still trying to remember the difference between pron3/supine
DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
By that definition could you have a swamp bog, a swamp fen, a marsh bog, and a marsh fen?
oxideseven@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Wildlife biologist here, Absolutely.
Oddly enough I usually see/write it fen/bog marsh. There are tons of other qualifiers too, like salt marsh, tidal marsh and such.
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
I’ll have a tidal salt fen marsh, with extra tide.
Pilon23@feddit.dk 11 months ago
Are any of the combinations more prevalent than others? E.g. do bogs/fens encourage or discourage trees from growing?
NielsBohron@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I was going to ask about the order of adjectives, actually, since I find esoteric grammar rules oddly interesting and have been on a bit of a “adjectives hierarchy” kick lately.
livus@mander.xyz 11 months ago
I find this definition a lot more compelling than the one in the meme.
In other words it’s more to do with geology and how the wetland has formed than it is to do with characteristics like ph and trees - those things sort of proceed from the basic structure.
Pilon23@feddit.dk 11 months ago
I’m also curious. Can’t find a way to subscribe to a thread, so I’m leaving a comment to check back later
sverit@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
That’s mind bog-gling
0ops@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I just think it’s fenny